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BREAKING! Arizona Sheriff's Investigation of Birth Certificate

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posted on Nov, 3 2011 @ 01:59 PM
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OH GOD WHY!

Give it a rest people.
It's been authenticated by the guy running the Hawaiian birth certificate office.

Let it go.



posted on Nov, 3 2011 @ 02:15 PM
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Originally posted by MESSAGEFROMTHESTARS
I knew! this would come back! Donald Trump even told Katie Couric in an interview(sorry i can't find the clip), that he had a team that is well paid, investigating the truth about the Birth Certificate, and that the information in which they were coming across was amazing.

Knowing the implications that this would have, and the current state of the world and america, both economically and foreign relationship wise, I would suggest that he didn't release this information, knowing that something would be done because of it, and make the US vulnderable... IMO

You can even STILL view the pdf file at whitehouse.gov
www.whitehouse.gov...

i'm not even going to list all the problems with it, for i know many of you are well aware

that was the biggest slap in the face to the world, especially the American Citizens, for all they simply did was play of our 'ignorance' and provide such a forgery, that even questioning it is laughable.
it's kinda like, reverse psychology mixed with plausible deniability and normalcy bias ALL at the same time

I truly hope they provide some real information, some real proof, and he really gets what is coming to him...

Not to get all..... well whatever you wanna call it...

But how crazy would it be, that Obama, americas first 'Black' president, were to be hung for treason on the front lawn of the White-House.

I wish it wasn't the case, but it seemingly is...

only time will tell



bub, if he got into office period we are completely vulnerable



posted on Nov, 3 2011 @ 02:16 PM
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great observation.. I never mentioned a birth certificate. I mentioned a statement made by president of Kenya. You are ignorant. Or is it not ok to make that statement?



posted on Nov, 3 2011 @ 02:17 PM
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Well once again, it only comes with questions, questions that lead with plausible speculation. If Mr. Joe continues with this investigation on to the end or fruition, I believe there's a very good chance he will meet a 'fate' by TPTB in the form of a 'so called assination by cartel members'. Since that would be a plausible story, it could be easily fed to the public. I personally believe there is deffinatly something fishy with the birth certificate and additionally the Osama Ben Lauden capture/kill. Neither were done in a way of transparency, but in utmost secrecy. That 2012 thing...... may be the unfolding of all the evil and lies perpetuated over the centuries, or critical mass, as it were. Thing is, as far as replacing Obama, what is out there that is worthwhile? Maybe Cain, maybe Ron Paul? As for the race card..... Yea, I'm white, and I make no apology for it, nor do I think the colors are playing by the rules, and are generational freeloaders, with the continuation of our nation 's interest clearly not foremost on their agenda. It is news reports and documented events that show the non white population to have the greatest numbers of questionable morals and lifestyles that contribute to the decay of this nation. But I'm not going to get into a pi_ _ ing match about my comments, the issue is Obama's truth or lie...!



posted on Nov, 3 2011 @ 02:32 PM
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You chose the sheriff Joe because he seemed like an easy target because of his racist views with mexicans, when in fact his attack here is spot on as you blokes like to say.
lmao. ah ok. So that is the reason that I 'chose' Sheriff Joe Arpaio? I thought that I had 'chosen' Sheriff Joe Arpaio, because he is the person whom this thread is based on.

  • I made no attack. I was merely asking a few questions.

  • I don't know what his views are. However, I do know that I made no remarks pertaining to anything about race.

  • I have never in my life used the phrase 'Spot On.'

  • I don't know what 'blokes' are.



  • posted on Nov, 3 2011 @ 03:46 PM
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    Originally posted by TsukiLunar
    reply to post by MamaJ
     





    Why would ANY presidential candidate NOT have to prove his citizenship. He should have....and still hasn't. It is a disgrace!


    Tell me exactly what you want as proof. You already posses his BC, what else do you want? Srsly?

    And before you say " A real BC" Look at this honest examination of his certificate.

    factcheck.org...



    You put all your faith into this one site that has been bought and paid for.

    Seriously?

    Who owns this website you continuously link us to?

    Do this if you really want to prove Obama has not suckered you too.

    Show us there is NO direct connection between the Annenberg Foundation, factcheck.org, Acorn, Ayres, and Obama.



    posted on Nov, 3 2011 @ 03:54 PM
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    Even though you have provided no evidence to contradict their analysis, you criticize me for merely linking them.

    Debunk them or not. Your choice.

    Asserting they are "linked to Obama" Is a fallacious argument even if it were true.

    So debunk them. Or you have no argument.




    Show us there is NO direct connection between the Annenberg Foundation, factcheck.org, Acorn, Ayres, and Obama.


    Also, this is literally the worst argument ever. If there is no connection, what am i supposed to show you?
    edit on 3-11-2011 by TsukiLunar because: (no reason given)



    posted on Nov, 3 2011 @ 03:58 PM
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    Originally posted by Myendica
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    great observation.. I never mentioned a birth certificate. I mentioned a statement made by president of Kenya. You are ignorant. Or is it not ok to make that statement?


    Whats your point?



    posted on Nov, 3 2011 @ 04:03 PM
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    For some of us living in the US we have ALWAYS had to have a copy of our BC in a file at home because for the most part we cannot get a job, a drivers licence, or go to school without showing we are a citizen. Its funny how Obama never had to have a copy. WHY?? And not only that...all that changed over the last decade. We can have all kind of illegals hanging out enjoying our freedoms and our jobs while they are not even a citizen.

    Even a dude who is not even an American can become President. I really cannot believe my leaders think I am that dumb as I can really only speak for myself and what my Country once was to ME and my family. All of the men in my family has served their country and fought for our freedoms. Obama has done nothing good for this country except more deceiving and more dividing. Its a shame really.

    Whatever sinister agenda they have in mind....Obama is the puppet of choice. I get that. That doesn't mean I place my tail between my legs and cower down. This Country was once a Land of the Free whereas people looked up to us, followed us, and had our back. Now....there is so much deception and under the table deals for nothing but their own agenda and this said agenda has nothing to do with WE THE PEOPLE.

    We the People cannot afford to live these days much less afford to die. Its sick and twisted and our leaders are not held accountable....they are enabled by people defending a non just cause and reason and furthers their agenda on manipulating and deceiving.

    I am sick and tired of being a slave. I know the human race has always had slavery in all forms and all races, but isn't it time we are freed once and for all? (end of rant)



    posted on Nov, 3 2011 @ 04:09 PM
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    Originally posted by TsukiLunar
    reply to post by MamaJ
     


    Even though you have provided no evidence to contradict their analysis, you criticize me for merely linking them.

    Debunk them or not. Your choice.

    Asserting they are "linked to Obama" Is a fallacious argument even if it were true.

    So debunk them. Or you have no argument.




    Show us there is NO direct connection between the Annenberg Foundation, factcheck.org, Acorn, Ayres, and Obama.


    Also, this is literally the worst argument ever. If there is no connection, what am i supposed to show you?
    edit on 3-11-2011 by TsukiLunar because: (no reason given)


    Their analyzing the BC is pointless to me and no....there is no evidence there what so ever. I debunked that site and that BC a long time ago...but looks like you are faithful to it and probably do not even know the first thing about the sites origins and who has paid for it.
    Do your homework.

    It being tied to Obama is more than just an eye opener don't you think?

    You see...before I go spouting off and linking every one to a site I would first want to check the site out and make sure it is credible.

    You my friend have failed.
    Sorry!

    Why did he NOT EVER need this fake BC before now? Have you not ever wondered that?



    posted on Nov, 3 2011 @ 04:19 PM
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    For some of us living in the US we have ALWAYS had to have a copy of our BC in a file at home because for the most part we cannot get a job, a drivers licence, or go to school without showing we are a citizen.


    The only thing i have EVER had to show my BC for is my ID and DL. That is it. No school or job.



    Its funny how Obama never had to have a copy.


    He had his short form, which is what i posses as well. My original is still sitting somewhere in OKC.



    Obama has done nothing good for this country except more deceiving and more dividing. Its a shame really.


    I dont get this statement. Obama has done a lot of good. From killing terrorist to improving the economy(which is still rising if you cared for facts, not rhetoric) to liberating countries to offering free health care to compromising with republicans to ect...

    You just refuse to acknowledge those achievements because (?).



    Whatever sinister agenda they have in mind....Obama is the puppet of choice.


    Sinister agenda???? Puppet of choice????




    I am sick and tired of being a slave. I know the human race has always had slavery in all forms and all races, but isn't it time we are freed once and for all?


    Who is using you as a slave? Not Obama. If your talking about taxes or your job I cant help you there and those are not Obamas fault.



    posted on Nov, 3 2011 @ 04:23 PM
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    Their analyzing the BC is pointless to me and no....there is no evidence there what so ever. I debunked that site and that BC a long time ago..


    What did you debunk about it. I asked you to debunk it, you did not.




    It being tied to Obama is more than just an eye opener don't you think?


    How is it tied to Obama????



    You see...before I go spouting off and linking every one to a site I would first want to check the site out and make sure it is credible.


    Debunk it then... Dont just assert it is not credible as if you somehow know.




    You my friend have failed. Sorry!


    ???? I have addressed every argument, how have i failed?




    Why did he NOT EVER need this fake BC before now? Have you not ever wondered that?


    He probably had his short form or a copy.
    edit on 3-11-2011 by TsukiLunar because: (no reason given)



    posted on Nov, 3 2011 @ 04:35 PM
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    I am not going to go back and forth with you any longer. It is obvious you are a blind follower (not trying to hurt you at all) and have not done your home work. You really should in the future because it is people like you who vote for leaders who are not even a natural born citizen of this Country and that is the first fail of many like a snowball effect. He has lied and manipulated just as a good puppet does. He will get his in the end for complying. One day you will know what I am talking about as it appears you have no clue at the present moment just what is really going on with this NWO agenda. It has been planned for a long time. It even goes back to the Eisenhower days in regards to Obama.

    The man has lived all over, gone by many names, and never once needed a copy of his real BC. I have lived here all my life and have always needed a copy of my real BC. I cannot get away with a short copy sending my kids to school so what makes you think a short copy will get me hired. It doesn't. Has never been ok when attending school either...not even Real Estate School.

    Either way...he is about to be out of the chair because I do not believe anyone in their right mind will vote him back in. Thank God! He can go back to Pakistan, Kenya, Hawaii or continue to hang with ACORN for all I care. I just want to see all the liars and deceivers gone and hopefully one day soon they will be.



    posted on Nov, 3 2011 @ 04:46 PM
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    I am not going to go back and forth with you any longer. It is obvious you are a blind follower (not trying to hurt you at all) and have not done your home work.


    Not even having an interest in politics until AFTER he was elected, i fail to see how i am a blind follow. I was not paying attention to his campaign or anything at all. I dont even remember it since i did not even watch the news. I was not even old enough to vote.

    I like him for a lot of reasons. But that doesn't matter. What matters is he the Leader of my country and he deserves respect. Just like I would defend the next president, I will defend him from such obvious slander.



    You really should in the future because it is people like you who vote for leaders who are not even a natural born citizen of this Country and that is the first fail of many like a snowball effect.


    He is a citizen, I have proved it.




    . One day you will know what I am talking about as it appears you have no clue at the present moment just what is really going on with this NWO agenda.


    I see, you are that type. Well sorry, I dont believe in the NWO. I pride myself on viewing facts in context and using logical reasoning to come to conclusions. NWO is not a logical conclusion of anything i have seen.




    I cannot get away with a short copy sending my kids to school so what makes you think a short copy will get me hired.


    I have said this before. Never have i had present my BC for a job or schooling.



    Either way...he is about to be out of the chair because I do not believe anyone in their right mind will vote him back in


    Obama 2012!
    edit on 3-11-2011 by TsukiLunar because: (no reason given)



    posted on Nov, 3 2011 @ 04:48 PM
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    posted on Nov, 3 2011 @ 04:50 PM
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    Obama will win in 2012..because the republicans got no one.

    Why do the Obama haters constantly keep screaming..he has done nothing...when he has done a lot.

    Are they just refusing to see it...



    posted on Nov, 3 2011 @ 05:03 PM
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    posted on Nov, 3 2011 @ 05:09 PM
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    I dont even remember it since i did not even watch the news. I was not even old enough to vote.
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    That says it all right there. You are young and appears you are naive because of your age. I will let you off the hook then.

    However I will not do your homework for you. I believe in being honest.


    Have you even heard of ACORN, Ayers, or possibly Annenberg? All you have to do is google them and you will see Obama pop up to. Watch videos, read material and then come back here and tell me you still think the same way.

    As for the NWO....little grasshopper....
    This has been our Nations plan for many,many years. There are tons of speech's back from the olden days that speak of where we are going and the agenda.

    You can either remain asleep ....or wake up. It's on you.



    posted on Nov, 3 2011 @ 05:14 PM
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    That says it all right there. You are young and appears you are naive because of your age. I will let you off the hook then.


    That is the most insulting you could be.My age has nothing to with it.



    As for the NWO....little grasshopper.... This has been our Nations plan for many,many years. There are tons of speech's back from the olden days that speak of where we are going and the agenda.


    ...and what is the agenda? No, prove it too.

    And you constantly do not give sources for your claims. Bad habit of those who dont know what they are talking about.
    edit on 3-11-2011 by TsukiLunar because: (no reason given)



    posted on Nov, 3 2011 @ 05:20 PM
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    Insulting? Dude,....you are young. That is a fact and that is the reason why you would know a fraction of what I know. If that offends you then you may want to get off this forum.
    That is not my intent AT ALL!!

    You have pages of floating a link around that you have no clue about and then expect me to do your homework for you. I won't. I will not even take the time to post a video for you. Research as I have!!!

    And as for me providing evidence of the NWO....there are MANY links on this site for both Obama and his funding not to mention all the threads about the NWO. I can't believe this is also something you are unaware of. How old are you anyway?



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