Can someone explain this crypto jew/khazar thing to me?

Originally posted by Metallic Monk
reply to post by smallpeeps

 

This still falls under history but anyway.
1. Why would Jesus be so angry at the moneychangers. Yes they were in the temple but they were not khazars.
The khazars converted like fivehundred years laters so these people in the temple could not have been khazars.

Why are you hung up on the johnny come latelys? Khazars are latecomers, they are like Generation v5 of sheklites. As for your question, "Why be angry at the money changers?" Seriously dude. You must be trollin. DEBT is the issue. It is the coinchanging process that creates indebtedness. Everlasting debt, is an aberration, totally incompatible with goodness.

Debt is meant to be forgiven, by the King. That is history. Jesus was the King of his time. Notice how Jesus rides into Jerusalem? He makes himself just another commodity, on the back of a donkey, like all the rest of the consumables which ride in on the Babylon donkey-caravans of the rabbinical businessmen. Jesus was face-slapping them by saying that the Kingship is just another commodity.

2. Aren't there two different Talmuds? The Jerusalem Talmud and the Babylonian Talmud?
Why is it that the Babylonian one is always pulled out in these discussions but never the Jerusalem Talmud?

The Jerusalem temple of 570BC was built by Persians. They basically re-opened it as a franchise like Dunkin' Donuts or something. It was a Persian franchise, to suit the silk traders whose roads led from Babylon. That is who funded it, populated it with talmudic rabbis, and these same rabbis outlawed debt forgiveness.

They wanted a warrior, but Jesus was a peaceful King, and wouldn't play ball with them (or Satan their God). So they got their guy, Simeon Bar Kochba, who was the superJew tyrant of his day, kinda like Frankist crypto-Jew Adolf Hitler nee-Shicklegruber/Frankenberger of Nazi fame. Anyway, the anti-Jesus, Bar Kochba, led all his people into total slaughter called Masada. A complete bloodletting which only a few Rabbis like Meir survived.

After the Bar Kochba ritual death-march, the surviving Rabbis made deals with the Romans, and built up their Talmud even further, in Babylon. E.J. itself says that Judah Ha-Nasi (who assembled the mishnah in Babylon) was big in the silk trade. And the whole load of crap about how Rabbi Meir's followers, 20k in number were "killed by plague", is hilarious. Just read their own history! Jesus called them the synagogue of Satan and their actions after Jesus leaves, is well, Satanic. When you sacrifice your own tribe, that's just wrong. Jesus told them to flee Jerusalem, but only individual wise ones listened to him, and they had to go against the Sanhedrin in this, because all the sheckle-princes were telling them to stay in the city and keep buying commodities and consumables.

Originally posted by Metallic Monk
BTW, why was Jacob Frank so evil?
I don't know anything about the guy so I can't say. But why is he specific punching bag when it comes to discussions like this?

He understood the contradictions in the bible. He realized that the rabbis of the Persian-Jerusalem franchise (the 570bc temple) were the ones who created the thing called "torah".

J. Frank was probably the superior bible ciritc of his time. Also he was widely known for pimping out his wife and daughter to nobles, and thereby gaining their allegiance. This is according to Rabbi Antelman's work and also E.J. I am not saying I have a problem with him per se, just with the people who today follow his lead but don't give him credit for being their messiah. He called himself the messiah, and in fact, for the truth of what these people are all about, he was their messiah.

It is Rabbi Antelman who says that Adolph was conceived in a Sabbatean ritual (wife swappin) in the book I linked to. I am fairly certain Hitler knew of Jacob Frank, and if he knew in 1908 that he himself was a Jew via Frankenberger, then in that moment, Hitler needed to either become the messiah, or "just another Jew". The reason the Frankists enjoy creating bastard-princes is because they believe (perhaps true) that Isaac was not Abraham's kid. Also they point to Isaac's wife who decieved her husband and thereby obtained the birthright for Jacob instead of Esau. They feel that this act of deceit is a key thing. And of course, they are right, but the real question is this: "What birthright was being striven for, in this deceptive act?" what was the birthright that Isaac possess and could pass on to Jacob or Esau?

Anyway, I have Jacob Frank's tome, "Sayings of the Lord" and would be happy to post some snippets here. My favorite story is where Frank says that Mohammed tied St. Peter to a tree and buggered him. Haha, the dude was obviously a funny guy.

reply to post by Metallic Monk


Most references to "Crypto" Jews are about Spanish Jews that converted to Catholicism after the Spanish and Portuguese "authorities" in the late 1400's forced the issue.

"Cryptos" were assumed to remain "Jewish" within their own families.

Quite a few migrated to the Americas.

Crypto-Judaism is the secret adherence to Judaism while publicly professing to be of another faith; practitioners are referred to as "crypto-Jews" (origin from Greek kryptos - κρυπτός, 'hidden'). The term crypto-Jew is also used to describe descendants who maintain some Jewish traditions of their ancestors, often secretly, while publicly adhering to other faiths, most commonly Catholicism.[1][2][3][4][5] The phenomenon arose in the Middle Ages following the expulsion of the Jews in 1492 from Spain.[6]

Crypto-Judaism


Marranos, Conversos, and New Christians

en.wikipedia.org...

The Jews and the Khazars Fact Paper 23

Originally posted by Metallic Monk
reply to post by hdutton

 

Two questions:
1. I take it you think that the ashkenazis do not belong in Israel. Would you find it OK if the Sephardic jews moved in instead?

2. What does modern genetics say about the ashkenazim khazar connection?

As to you first question:
It was my intension to assist you in finding out about your original question concering the jewish/kazar relationship. My statement about "beware" was to alert you to the possibility of information which may be new to you. It is not of real concern to be who lives where, so long as they don't try to claim what is mine.

As to question two:
All I know about this subject, you could wright on the head of a pin and have room for several angels to dance.

I had also noticed, you made a comment about some of the answers to your questions being slow in comming. I must appoligize for my tardiness. It seems my life often gets in the way of my hobbies.

Originally posted by Metallic Monk
No one has answered me yet. Why is this specific turkic tribe supposedly sneaky and untrustworthy?

The Khazarian Conspiracy, Part 1 of 12




Jews United Against Zionism, United Nations, January 4, 2009

Originally posted by Metallic Monk
reply to post by Drezden

 

Can you say with 100% certainty that all of these people are ideological zionists?

BTW, isn't Rahm Emanuel the mayor of Chicago now?

There is a lot of outdated info on that list, like for instance the fact that Richard Holbrooke has been dead a year and Lehman Brothers doesn't even exist anymore. The firm collapsed in 2008.

Originally posted by LifeInDeath
Lehman Brothers doesn't even exist anymore. The firm collapsed in 2008.

Most of these kinds of "collapses" are zombie or pheonix-like. I mean, Nazi-Germany "collapsed" yet the phoenix-like resurgence of Germany and pseudo-nemesis Israel who got the Nazi war-reparations and still gets them, has now risen to the highest point on Earth, one might say.

Very few things of that size actually die. It is more correct to say they were "consumed" and that means the entity who consumes it, takes the essence of it inside itself.

So long as debt is perpetual due to sheklism, nothing financial ever dies, it is just a notational transfer of chits, as with the temple money changers aka debt-managers of Jesus' time.

Who took over the Lehman bad business? What happened to those shekels and notations of shekels-owed?

The dilemma

Everyone is overeducated in a bunch of nothingness and there is no such thing as good and evil.



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The Khazars are mentioned in relation to an ancient trade group called Radhanites.

Some scholars believe that many Jewish "expulsions" may have actually been simply trade related migrations.
(financial and economic)

The ancient trade groups always were on the move wherever the business was better.

End of the Radhanite age

The fall of the Tang Dynasty of China in 908 and the destruction of the Khazar Khaganate some sixty years later ( circa 968-969 AD ) led to widespread chaos in Inner Eurasia, the Caucasus and China. Trade routes became unstable and unsafe, a situation exacerbated by Turkic invasions of Persia and the Middle East, and the Silk Road largely collapsed for centuries. This period saw the rise of the mercantile Italian city-states, especially Genoa, Venice, Pisa, and Amalfi, who viewed the Radhanites as unwanted competitors.

The economy of Europe was profoundly affected by the disappearance of the Radhanites. For example, documentary evidence indicates that many spices in regular use during the early Middle Ages completely disappeared from European tables in the 10th century. Jews had previously, in large parts of Western Europe, enjoyed a virtual monopoly on the spice trade.[17]

The Radhanites (also Radanites, Hebrew sing. רדהני Radhani, pl. רדהנים Radhanim; Arabic الرذنية ar-Raðaniyya) were medieval Jewish merchants. Whether the term, which is used by only a limited number of primary sources, refers to a specific guild, or a clan, or is a generic term for Jewish merchants in the trans-Eurasian trade network is unclear. Jewish merchants dominated trade between the Christian and Islamic worlds during the early Middle Ages (approx. 500–1000 CE/AD). Many trade routes previously established under the Roman Empire continued to function during that period largely through their efforts. Their trade network covered much of Europe, North Africa, the Middle East, Central Asia and parts of India and China.

The Radhanites

Here is a very controversial and satirical look at a theory that addresses the OP.

Some people believe this.

It could apply to all of us?


The Neanderthal hypothesis ...(biased opinions)..

The whole world is puzzled by the undisguised insanity that seems to pervert and pollute every news story in the world. Why would they deliberately poison the ocean? Why would they bomb innocent countries? Why do they poison food, foul the air, and produce supposedly beneficial medicines that, when studied carefully, always seem to contain hidden, time-delayed poisons?

Why are they deliberately trying to kill our own children?

But before the why comes the who. Many of us have spent decades trying to identify the perpetrators, and a lot of us think we have a pretty good idea who is behind all these contrived atrocities that have ruined our lives down through the centuries.

Did the Neanderthals have religion?

Remember also that the ancient Merchant/Business Elite were established long before the modern religions.


How much Neanderthal is in you?

Neanderthals, Humans Interbred—First Solid DNA Evidence

According to a new DNA study, most humans have a little Neanderthal in them—at least 1 to 4 percent of a person's genetic makeup.

There could have been humans with high content on Neanderthal DNA a long time ago (25%).
Perhaps they were somehow enslaved by more advanced CroMagnon?

Very controversial