To women: Do you understand we don't understand?

Oh, so..... your woman doesn't understand you?

Maybe it has something to do with your communication skills???

Because I don't understand you here, and yet I understand my husband, sons, brothers, father and male friends (and they understand me).

It just might be you??

Originally posted by AK907ICECOLD

Originally posted by Advantage
I actually do have the origin of the problem if you want to hear it. Im old, been in a happy marriage for a long time, blah blah.

Basically stop watching TV/movies and grow the hell up. Its not a fairy tale or a soap opera and takes work. Especially if 2 boneheads come together like my husband and I.

When the infatuation endorphins wear off, you are with the person themselves. Either like them or dont.. stay and work or move on. SUPER simple. Always be yourself... and look for someone who is themselves. Fake crap never works... and there is a difference between "good behavior" and fake as hell. Be honest above all.. with yourself and the other person. And lastly.. stop watching TV/Movies and grow the hell up.

If you havent brushed up on interpersonal communication, you probably shouldnt be dating at all.

Oh yeah, whomever said women with the ears and men with the eyes thing is delusional. Its BS. I was initially attracted to mu husband by sight alone.. what he said wasnt all that much of an importance at first. That definitely came later. He was hot, bulging in places, devilish smile and a smart ass marine. At that point I really didnt care what his religion or deep internal political beliefs were... he had a nice butt.

Wow, I had to laugh for a min there! Thanks, he needed to hear that,
and as for my quote, it was to help him out a little bit, LOL

Much Love, Or whatever they call it these days

LOL! Its love.. thats what most people want.. love and acceptance by a partner. Its a shame people settle for less.Call me horrible, but I dated and dumped for a long time searching. I simply walked away from things that didnt make me happy or were no longer fun. When it stayed consistent.. I married the dope and we are still together.. still disagree and gripe.. still do our own things and come together for things too.. still love eachother... and god help the person who wrongs one of us because they have to take on both. Id enjoy seeing everyone figure out the real simple mystery and stop causing themselves so much angst. More happy people in secure relationships that had the sense to walk away from things that obviously arent going to work would do everyone well.You just cant MAKE anyone love you or change them to suit what you want.. only a loon thinks they can accomplish that. You just cant change anyone and wasting time on a dead end unhappy relationship makes it impossible to be available and ready for when that certain person comes along. World would be a much nicer place if we all figured that out!

Only half jokingly I always say the biggest downfall to modern relationship or marriage bliss was the invention of the soap opera and romantic comedy genre. Stick to horror or action.. or better yet zombie flicks.... and youll be be better off! Filling your head from birth with weird role expectations and fantasy when it comes to interpersonal relationships is emotional security suicide. Hey, I dont claim to know it all, but the proof is in the pudding and if I feel I have a working formula for some stability in this age old mess we call relationships and "love", I am going to do my best to pass the word concerning the little piece I figured out! LOL!

Etherical, it sounds like some female has given you the business. Kick her to the curb, man.

Unfortunately, woman and men are very different creatures and, frankly, people would be better off if they could abandon the psychological traps that create the illusion that being in a romantic relationship will prove their self-worth and provide them with emotional security.

That's a load of cow dung.

The minute you start focusing your goals away from the need to find romance and start finding satisfaction in exploring the countless other things there are to enjoy in this lifetime, you'll find yourself with plenty of potential love interests. It's a mysterious phenomenon, but time-tested and proven.

Women are complicated! It probably developed over a vast period of time, of playing hunter, gatherer, mother, friend, planner, cleaner, pleaser, fixer, negotiator, lover.....when you are forced to think and be all the different hats, you develop a complicated brain.

Don't feel too bad OP, you just weren't born to completely understand us.

Sounds like you found a really complicated one. GIve her up and try for an easier one. We come in all different styles.

Originally posted by Advantage

Originally posted by AK907ICECOLD

Originally posted by Advantage
I actually do have the origin of the problem if you want to hear it. Im old, been in a happy marriage for a long time, blah blah.

Basically stop watching TV/movies and grow the hell up. Its not a fairy tale or a soap opera and takes work. Especially if 2 boneheads come together like my husband and I.

When the infatuation endorphins wear off, you are with the person themselves. Either like them or dont.. stay and work or move on. SUPER simple. Always be yourself... and look for someone who is themselves. Fake crap never works... and there is a difference between "good behavior" and fake as hell. Be honest above all.. with yourself and the other person. And lastly.. stop watching TV/Movies and grow the hell up.

If you havent brushed up on interpersonal communication, you probably shouldnt be dating at all.

Oh yeah, whomever said women with the ears and men with the eyes thing is delusional. Its BS. I was initially attracted to mu husband by sight alone.. what he said wasnt all that much of an importance at first. That definitely came later. He was hot, bulging in places, devilish smile and a smart ass marine. At that point I really didnt care what his religion or deep internal political beliefs were... he had a nice butt.

Wow, I had to laugh for a min there! Thanks, he needed to hear that,
and as for my quote, it was to help him out a little bit, LOL

Much Love, Or whatever they call it these days

LOL! Its love.. thats what most people want.. love and acceptance by a partner. Its a shame people settle for less.Call me horrible, but I dated and dumped for a long time searching. I simply walked away from things that didnt make me happy or were no longer fun. When it stayed consistent.. I married the dope and we are still together.. still disagree and gripe.. still do our own things and come together for things too.. still love eachother... and god help the person who wrongs one of us because they have to take on both. Id enjoy seeing everyone figure out the real simple mystery and stop causing themselves so much angst. More happy people in secure relationships that had the sense to walk away from things that obviously arent going to work would do everyone well.You just cant MAKE anyone love you or change them to suit what you want.. only a loon thinks they can accomplish that. You just cant change anyone and wasting time on a dead end unhappy relationship makes it impossible to be available and ready for when that certain person comes along. World would be a much nicer place if we all figured that out!

Only half jokingly I always say the biggest downfall to modern relationship or marriage bliss was the invention of the soap opera and romantic comedy genre. Stick to horror or action.. or better yet zombie flicks.... and youll be be better off!

Filling your head from birth with weird role expectations and fantasy when it comes to interpersonal relationships is emotional security suicide. Hey, I dont claim to know it all, but the proof is in the pudding and if I feel I have a working formula for some stability in this age old mess we call relationships and "love", I am going to do my best to pass the word concerning the little piece I figured out! LOL!

Grrrrr. me man, me like you, You want to do what for you, your crazy!?????! LOL
I miss the good ol' days of simplicity

Thanks
Much love

Hey, man, that post was kind of a mess. Do you understand that we don't understand you?

I'm picking up on several notes in the noise: misogyny, religious delusion, sexual frustration.

Women do not have a ladies-only collective consciousness. Women are not the source of "sin". Women do not have magical powers. Are you possibly displacing your own wigginess onto ladies?

Half the female population have become lawless? To what legal code do you refer?

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Etherical why is it that you always make perfect sense to me.

As always here is what I think of all that you have said.

Originally posted by etherical waterwave
yes, yes.. yes but I don't understand. I think you're foolish playing with fire. You are the reason for "the Grand Depression".

what you seem to call humanity is a failiure. I don't understand. Sin. If you were an indian, I'd call you "battles sin.. the inappropriate way". Or you didn't exactly succeed in making yourself clear to me. Do you realy know better? Are you the change? I do not understand. Maybe you're just a psychosis? Can you handle truth? Truth resonates like ' that which can be handled'. It's impossible to not being able to handle truth.

I find relief in typing all this and why should I hit the replybutton? Seems like nobodies listening. What should I expect for replies? Who am I talking to? Again.. woman, do you want to show me the way to God maybe? To you, it seems like it doesn't matter which way you get to know God. Honestly, I prefer having myself at His side, Him not being against me cause I'd feel terrible. To you, any way to God is good. God has feelings too you know. Why are you so terrible? You're invisible when you are around me. Self-pittying when I'm not around.

phew. When I'm around you don't want me, and you call me when I leave. Just cry. I pray for 1,000,000,000 women to cry spontaniously, that must be a huge relief. Jesus this post is getting boring. Here are my many words. Just saying,.. I don't understand, and never will. I know you're doing everything to make me understand, but what you don't want me to know is that I will not understand. I don't want to understand I don't understand. See? You're locked up inside. Your way is to destruction. You thought you could get away with it! How foolish.

Strange, I can feel women who aren't in the conspiracy. The female conspiracy. Would've been a nice title for this thread. Never mind. Never mind. Don't mind.

millions of pages. How far are you away from yourself? Afraid of who'll get the blame? You have sinister powers. You can make another one feel guilty for your own mistakes. Reason is the only way. You somehow seem to fall in between. In between tends to make yourself end on the wrong side. Many in between don't go the right way. You stay there, cause you think you could get a step ahead, while you fall back. Don't try to be something. Try to be. Try to be what you are. You think you are something. You're weird. What is not yourself is wrong.

Greets.

Good god, man. Stop imbibing ( or whatever ) and respect yourself. If you do that, and refuse to accept unfulfilling relationships, you'll find powerful things opening up for you. Women are not the be-all-and-end-all. They're only the opposite gender, certainly not imbued with some "magical powers'. You need to lose that crutch of your perception. Good luck, sincerely...

Explanation: S&F!

This is one of the best cathartic outpourings I have ever witnessed!

Don't my fellow members understand?

Personal Disclosure: I recommend a move to the rants forum.

The OP answered themselves by the way ...

Reason is the only way.

reply to post by Advantage

Originally posted by Advantage

Originally posted by Realm52

Originally posted by Saucerwench
See, the thing is, you men need to be able to read our minds and feelings. Be telepathic and empathic. If not, you all are doomed. You will never win, no matter what you do say, or don't. I stopped trying to have relationships with you all, because I finally realized I don't like any of you as people. Outwardly is a different matter ('Donald Draper'....)

No, women need to stop playing mind games! you women think too much.

SHut up dumb dumb.. you just need to learn how to read our minds and all will be well in the universe.

IE: when I say, "no I dont want that its too expensive".. YOU THINK ( Hmmm this is a test.. what do I do.. I must please her or I will play priest for a month on the couch... I dont think I like this role playing game.. wonder how the football game is doing.. bratwurst ) then YOU say "NO dear and light of my life, youre well worth it and I shall buy it for you in every color available. Money is NO object when it comes to satisfying my goddess' wants " See how easy that is? You men are dumb.

See what I mean?

You women think too much!

Why is someone giving him romantic advise when he's rambling on some mixed up pseudo religious Adam and Eve, nonsense. This isn't about romance. And with an attitude like this he needs to do some serious deep contemplating on life, and true spirituality, unconditional love and pull himself together. Sad thread really.

Though I do not grasp the OP, the posters who are replying have some interesting points of view to share.

I have been with my husband for 22 years, and in my opinion, this relationship has been the pathway through which I learned to understand the differences between the way men and woman think. Through learning to understand him, I gained a lot of insight into many men. Having sons also.

But there were times it got hard, when we were really challenged with misunderstanding, and could have done like so many and jumped ship as soon as it got unfulfilling. Luckily we didn't, because once past those storms, a new world opened up to us and a relationship I value immensely.

If you want to learn any skill, say, playing an instrument, for example...... you go through a first stage of being excited you can make a few notes, then to a stage of doing repetative and boring exercises, then to a point of being challenged with more complex and truly challenging music- that is written by someone else and doesn't inspire you.
Those boring and challenging stages are the ones at which most people give up, stop the lessons, decide it is not fulfilling.

Really too bad, because if you master those stages, then you tip over into the creative stage of having integrated the skill, and then being free to be creative and joyful! To play the music that is born in your head, without too much effort, and with absolute joy!

Everything is like that- Picasso may have been able to express his very own style, but first had a classical education in art and painting! Mozart did too! The dream of being able to skip all that and just sit down and find out you have natural talent for abstract art, or a natural talent to get on a horse and be naturally in sync with it, decide to be an entrepreneur without any education or experience and just become a millionaire in a year, are no more realistic than thinking someday, a magical exchange will happen with some person and it will be perfect symbiosis without any effort!

As a mother, I consider this one of the most important lessons to learn as a child- to be pushed past the difficult part of any learnign experience, to know the thrill that awaits you on the other side, when the skills are YOURS and you are free to create in joy. That IS worth it, it really is!

When it comes to relationship skills, both of you have to be willing to put the effort in at those challenging phases, and each of you need some inspiration when you start to get tired and run down from it. It is like a team sport.
But you both really benefit if you make it.

Being able to understand eachother allows you then to understand opposing parts of yourself inside, and then you can find a kind of joy and interest in life that is invaluable.

I'm sorry. The OP sounds like an advertiser trying out a new idea for some Perfume advert.


I see her, I want her,she is what she is,she sees but she is blind,she has legs but she has no legs,she is alive but she is dead,she's a woman but she's a monkey,and i know i want her because she is what she is and what she is is a blind,dead,disabled monkey.And i know that i want her Shalamo by Gula.

WHAT ARE YOU ON ABOUT,WHAT DOES IT #ING SMELL LIKE??!!?!

Originally posted by galadofwarthethird
reply to post by etherical waterwave

 

Etherical why is it that you always make perfect sense to me.

As always here is what I think of all that you have said.

Their punishment will be so real!! If you know what I mean..

reply to post by etherical waterwave

Their punishment will be so real!! If you know what I mean..

Infinity is like a spiral. Please consider upgrading your consciousness. Because that river keeps on flowing and anyone caught up in harming others, judging, hurting, and shrinking compassion, kindness, giving, caring, peace, and real seeking puts themselves at risk. There are true shadow people off the spiral, and they take alot of work and love, all must be helped to progress. It takes Love, and this thread is so far removed from it.

As for any attempt at code and spell casting as was suggested. Grow up! Women are waking up all over this planet, in every nation, culture, they are opening all the windows in all the boxes, they've been kept in, connecting within to their true source and raising their consciousness and frequency, and unconditonal love. They are shining their lights and the True Infinite Light and showing all the way, by examples and goodness. All the negativity has fallen off to the side and everyone is upgrading.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

1. While I sleep, I dream inspirational dreams which help me to awaken more, understand more, and make use of my innate talents to help others. I recall my dreams in detail!

2. I am an artist of love, gifted with abundant talents and seek to draw them forth, striving to shine them into the world. I am like the sun beaming rays to all around me, shining light through all darkness, hope in despair, peace in turbulence, gentle words in harshness. I am connected to my inner Source by wellsprings of happiness, gratitude and with my acquiescence to love. I do not waste moments or the opportunity to send love, light, compassion.

I am the Love of the Creator, and there is nothing that I cannot accomplish!

3. Problems are meant to be solved, and they draw forth my light, and answers always come to me.

4. I listen within, and recognize only the voice that leads me to overcoming all obstacles to simplifying life to its truest purpose, to love and assist, to grow and encourage, to be a warm loving ray that gives nourishment to the world and others.

5. I am guided within each day to perfect my love and the gift of myself to others. I am guided to maintain balance, in my daily life, replenishing my resources within, and naturally drawn to the higher frequencies of love, kindness, laughter, goodness, beauty, and rejoice in all that is love, kindness and goodness around me.

6. I rejoice in everyone's success, and see the light and beauty in all around me.

7. Each night when I sleep, I connect within to my Source, and am able to accomplish as much or more, in sleep as in waking moments. I remember all my dreams, and my inspirations. This is unlimited.

8. I give gratitude and thankfulness for all the gifts and abundance in my life. I seek to put them in service to Love and Goodness above, and to shine light all around me. I am growing in connection to my Source and my Higher Self.

Thank You!

These kind of affirmations are prayers, and they connect to Infinite Light and source. There is nothing dark side has that even compares!

Please wake up yourself!

reply to post by etherical waterwave


I am really not understanding any of your rant. What exactly are you trying to say? It is really not clear by a long shot and you are not articulating clear arguments so please do explain.

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Its a spell to create ignorance in women again. And its relating to adam and eve and all that jazz. I came in on a spell, Mr. Green was on a thread that was very bizarre and negative, and she got attacked by the op, what I call coding the matrix and some figured it out, and were countering. I recognize it, its NLP, bizarre writing, coding, and negative spell casting. This reminds me of that one a couple years ago.

Originally posted by aeriess
What in the world are you babbling on about?

that is exactly what I was thinking!!

you must be psychic?
yeah as for the post... the OP lost me...didnt understand.

The answer to anything like this is to turn it all into positive. Turn it around, and do that with all the conspiracies and gloom and doom. See the positive. Feel it, receive this with joy and happiness, the Good and the Positive, as if its here now. Act as if. And be grateful, thankful, show gratitude, always believing you count, everyone counts and every thought or work towards the Good is a prayer answered.