WWE/WCW predicting the future?

The current storylines are also rather topical, if you think a little about them. There are shades of OWS in a walkout that occurred a couple of weeks back, for example. Also, the walkout undermined Tripple H, who had been made the new COO, and now they have a more corporate guy named John Laurenitis his replacement as a result of the walkout. As a take on OWS, it's not too hard to read into that.

R-Truth turned heel when he went crazy, believing there was a conspiracy at work to deny him a title shot. Think about that..."the truth" is a crazy and a bad guy. And I have to say, he has really gotten over with me for doing this heel work so well. His crazy character is kind of Ron Artest based and it's done pretty well.

And guess what...it's turning out that he's right, to some extent. There does seem to be a shadowy conspiracy at work in the WWE, manipulating events. And to any jacka** who is about to say 'gee could it be the writers who tell them what to do hurrrr' I hope you can wrap your head around the idea that most wrestling fans know that it's a theatrical production. So obviously I'm talking about a shadowy conspiracy being at work as part of the story line.

Speaking more broadly to what the OP is talking about...

The question of whether or not art is prophecy is as old as art.

Another old question is, does life imitate art or does art imitate life? The simple answer is that it can work both ways.

The WWE is an unusual form of fiction in that it just never stops. That's why it gets compared to soap operas because there isn't much else that works like that. How do you write something like that? How do you constantly come up with material?

You have to balance the timely and the timeless.

What I mean by 'timely' is just looking at the world around you, what is going on, and picking up themes from it, and running with them. Another sort of writing that all but has to work this way are the joke monologues late night hosts do. They do them every night they are on, at the end of the day, so they are looking at the day's news stories to make some jokes from.

However, you can easily overdo that sort of thing, which is why you need the timeless. What is timeless? A story you could tell anybody anywhen and they'd get it, because it's about being human, and they don't need to understand the particulars of when it came from. I think the easiest, best example is "Romeo and Juliet."

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Vince stepping down as COO btw was completely fictional. Believe it or not, because WWE is a publicly traded company, this sort of storyline would be illegal if they didn't disclose that it was fiction in the appropriate sort of official statements.

Similarly, the 'death of Vince McMahon' storyline where he appeared to get into a limo that exploded would have been illegal had they not made the appropriate disclosure. Vince is insured as an extremely important part of the business.

And yet the Vince/Tripple H COO storyline reflects reality here in that Tripple H is being groomed to be the eventual replacement for Vince as Vince is inevitably is going to have to throttle back and become more like the WWE's grand dad then it's father. It's also true I'm pretty sure that he has begun to throttle back a bit on the actual show running duties.
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Originally posted by thejlxc
Much more likely just some more predictive programming sprinkled in for the masses.

LMAO

As a WCW fan and a guy with the nWo logo tattooed in a visible place on my body, I have to call BS on that ill informed thing.

It started with The Outsiders invading WCW as a storyline to mix reality into the fantasy and make things realistic, to the point that WWE tried to sue WCW thinking that they were using their copyrighted characters when in fact, Kevin Nash and Scott Hall were just returning to their former employer under their real names.

Months after saying they had a third man in on it, Hulk Hogan turned heel, became Hollywood Hogan and wore all black declaring that the old ways of pro wrestling were dead and that they were the "new world order of professional wrestling".

Nothing sinister there, just a group of people involved in creating the show picking a cool name and then coming up with a logo, a handsign (the wolf one used in shadow puppetry) and merchandise.

D-Generation X? That came almost a year and a half after the nWo because the popularity of that group helped WCW kill WWE in the ratings so they came up with their own rip off copycats using friends of Hall and Nash as the main DX creators.

Then because WCW Executive Eric Bischoff kept calling out WWE Chairman Vince McMahon out to fight on his show, Vince answered by copying what WCW and ECW were doing on their shows and then sent DX out to a WCW show to "prove" they were better by getting WCW fans to pose with them and such.

Brainwashing? Predictive programming?

No, just men with great ideas and the balls to try something that had never been done before in the business. Before the nWo we had cartoon style characters in bright colours and silly gimmicks but when that group came in, wrestling turned more to realism which helped boost its popularity to the point that the companies had the most watched tv shows in the world during those years.

It's just entertainment and athleticism, nothing more.

Now if the Antichrist is real and wears silver and black exclusively, are we gonna have threads asking if the Oakland Raiders were predictive programming?

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I started to hate WWE again a few years ago but I tuned in to see the walkout and thought it sucked.

To be honest, WWE is always behind with the times.

Paul Heyman is the true genius in wrestling because he started adding realism to his company in the early 90s which the other companies copied to much success.

He gave us the Taz character who wrestled more of an MMA style before UFC became popular because he had a gut feeling that it would be and he wanted to be ahead of the curve.

When he worked in WWE, he gave us Kevin Thorn and Ariel because he could see that vampire culture would be popular again and it pretty much was a year or so later.

If I'm not mistaken, wasn't the OWS stuff going on AFTER the Raw walkout where people didn't have confidence in Triple H as COO?

I much prefer TNA anyway, better wrestlers, more entertaining, less ridiculous.

Gail Kim's back, James Storm is World champ, Sting's in charge of running the show, Bischoff's pissed that Hogan turned his back on him after they lost the company back to Dixie at Bound For Glory a few weeks back, Eric Young and Robbie E are making this Jersey Shore stuff hilarious (and yeah, TNA had a Jersey Shore cast member last year while WWE copied it by having Snooki at Wrestlemania 27 6 months later).....

There may be outside stuff brought into storylines but unless it's WWE being blatant and saying "use your vote" or showing campaigns for when Linda McMahon ran for Senate, it's rare to see unless it involves pop culture that makes sense in the context of the storyline.

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interesting point that the main people in nwo and in dx all started together in the cliq when they all worked at the same company,

Originally posted by shockologist
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interesting point that the main people in nwo and in dx all started together in the cliq when they all worked at the same company,

ahhh, it's nice to see that people are finally recognizing the use of Archetypal roles in TV, Media and events all around the world. Many of the conclusions that I have read on this thread are plausible to say the least.

Where do you think these creative minds get their influence? From out of no where? No, lol. I'm not going to speak like i know all that much about recent or even previous WCW WWE and WWF stories and story lines. But I at one time, years ago, came to the conclusion while watching an episode.

Another 'Classic' use of this can be found in the movie 'The Watchmen' that movie is deeper than anyone could imagine, only the original writter could truly comprehend the depth in which the movie goes.

Another even, easier to understand....is Tony Hawk's Project 8
I'm just going to throw that out there, if you've actually played the game, think about it. lol
And with out going through it, you can just simply view the soundtrack... to get a feel for it...
before i list them, remember it is a product of... Page 44 Studios

1.+44 - Lycanthrope
2.76 Percent Uncertain - I Hate the Radio
....
44.The Throwaways - You're Not the Only One
45.Thine Eyes Bleed - Without Warning
46.The Thunderlords - Ice Cream Headache
47.Toots and the Maytals - Time Tough
48.Transplants - Pay Any Price
49.Typical Cats - Any Day
50.Ugly Duckling - Smack
51.VanStone - Skate Town
52.Voltera - Do What your Daddy Say
53.The Walkmen - This Job is Killing Me
54.Wildchild - Wonder Years
55.Wolfmother - Woman
56.Zeke - Kill the King
Listen to some of those songs, or just simply read the titles of them... it becomes pretty clear. But for real, play the game lol. I dont even like skateboarding video games, but with in the first 30 seconds of playing it, it became SOOOOO clear, I wanted to play as much as I could just to see how it all went down and what those creative genius' had to offer.

BTW, What is the importance of 44, some may ask... Well Tool had a song about it...
If that doesn't clear it up for you, check out this....
www.pisceandelusions.org...
"The fine piece of literature explains that human beings are entering the next dimension or "Christ Consciousness" in which they will have 46 and 2 chromosomes. (Currently, we have 44 and 2."

Oh, it gets DEEP people lol

They were both obvious programming about the plan - directed towards the youth.

So was the older incarnation, which was the Four Horsemen.

I really hope the OP made 2 different accounts to give this the stars and flags it got.

Conspiracies in wrestling???? WOW!!!!! I guess you learn something new everyday!!!!!! LOL

I never got into wrestling (playing or watching) but I do remember the NWO vs WCW thing for a while. I never took it seriously so I wasn't in the least bit surprised when it was made mainstream that it's all a show.