wake up, i'm home

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nice one pajoly lets just focus on the important stuff..u know like the spelling and the punctuation...

i totally agree with the op,we are such gullable creatures....one of my mates put it well....ignorance is bliss is the answer he gave me when i was questioning his actions(or lack of)...and he basically told me he was happy in his bubble....how do argue with that?

Although I agree and appreciate everything you are saying, it is very hard for me to get past YOUR repeated negligence (or ?) of the word - YOUR

There is a difference between

YOU'RE
&
YOUR

Your credibility towards anything of use significantly diminishes when making such a simple error over and over.


Otherwise, great job.

Oh my

Star and Flag and tons of applauses for you sir, not the idea in general, given it is not new, but for a well constructed post outlining all these ideas

reply to post by raj9721


Hey, then make the dollar backed on Karma. Simple fix, really.

Originally posted by raj9721
they make up a story for you or twist facts out of context, and then they make you out to be insane, they turn those closest to you away from you, they destroy your dignity, and they do it through media.

Or more likely, you do that yourself through ATS posts and threads.

Did you actually work in advertising or is it made up because you couldn't do the much used "I was a NASA scientists" angle?

If you did work in advertising, are you just a bitter ex-employee who got fired and is bad mouthing the industry as a way of venting?

People who buy into brand names are idiots anyway but those who turn the industry into the latest victim of faux-political activism in an attempt to become the next Marx is just as bad.

I worked in Advertising for about 5 years 2 of which i spent producing said commercials/advertisements. I was just "waking up" when I started working there and could only take 5 years of it and I worked for a shop that only made what it wanted to make b/c it has been around and been successful for so long. They got to pretty much choose what they wanted to do. BUT any way you slice it, they are still simply selling things to people. Playing off people's emotions to make them feel a certain way about a show or product. That covers everything on TV. Everything. I currently work for a cable company and even get free cable. I don't watch it.

Think about this. If people say sports are a distraction (back in the Roman/Greek or wha0 tever days when they would throw games to distract them public from their own woes or conduct of the state...) then what is TV if not more than a delivery device for said distraction(s). Only it is meant to bombard you 24/7/365. Why do you think there is so much apathy in this country?(PTB) So much obesity(Health Care companies love this). Laziness/Low Education (big corps and the federal prison system smile at this) Mental Health Issues (Pharm companies bank on this) TV is good for EVERYONE....except you....apologies for the conspiratorial rant but hey, if I can't do that here then that just leaves me the soap box in the street. (Which we need more of btw.... )



EDIT: The worst thing I think it does is give people a false sense of what the real world is like and what to expect when you get there. Everyone wants to be a sports star or a rockstar or diva or a reality tv star or an american idol...TV rots brains. Period. Funny side thought just now, with talk of the Zombie Apoc. maybe we had it all wrong. Maybe "we" are already the zombies and that is what will ruin the world. Our fellow citizens zombie like state and unwillingness to wake up and watch their rights stripped away...

reply to post by raj9721


Poor lil teenager.

Poor ATS.

First off let me say that I agree with your post.

Second, please don't take offense but I have a reason for asking.
Is English your native language?

I must say i'm impressed, this is the best topic that is not conjectures of some conspiracy theory or doomday, the most actual truth about modern society, very good

reply to post by raj9721


The same is true with those who advertise on special interest forums like this one.

This is the kind of thread that makes ATS so valuable. It's not a topic that focuses on something that affects relatively few people, or something that might happen in the future. The media is affecting virtually everyone in this day and age.

What's hard for me to accept is that most consumers are very gullible. I rarely watch commercials (including the famous Super Bowl ads) and never view website videos that lead off with a commercial. Yet corporations shell out millions of dollars daily for 30-60 second advertisements. Since they're bottom-line oriented, one must assume that the commercials are worth the expenditure for these companies? Like I said, it's hard for me to imagine this, but it must be true.

Regarding Football, the profit motive is becoming insane. In the past, when a player got injured, the network would replay and the commentors would attempt to see and explain what could have happened to the poor guy lying on the field. Now, the networks jump for joy when there's an injury, so they can show some more commercials while the player is being attended to. ESPN/FOX/ABC..all of them...jump to the commercials before the doctors even make it out to the field. So cold and callous of them!

Another area where consumers are being screwed BIG TIME is with purchasing drinks (soda or liquor) at restaurants. The profit margin is THOUSANDS of percent on beverages. For a special occasion I might have a Pina Colada or Margarita, but that's about it. It's WATER all the rest of the time. I'm sure my one-man abstension won't have any effect on the profits of these greedy restaurants and drink producers, but there's no way I'm going to be one of the gullible ones in beverage sector of the economy.

I sure wish the "OCCUPY" movement had a leader, or group of leaders, who would define their goals. If they're for boycotting commercials and not purchasing beverages and alcohol at restaurants, I'll gladly join the cause!
-CareWeMust (Yoda-speak)

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Um, we've been awake for a while now, this is why we don't watch TV anymore and just record whatever show we feel like watching. Commercials? they can go suck on a ducks tail for all I care.

I ditched cable TV and I really don't miss the cost or the product propaganda.

I believe the term "awake" is a bad word, I mean if you said to some random person "hey im awake look at what I learned" they might not take what you have to say seriously.

Maybe we should stop being so "fantastical" as some people would say, about this knowledge. Why can't we just call it educated? It's not like this magical box that you get your information is uncommon now. I honestly don't consider 90% of the people that say they are awake that really know what is going on, they are just fitting in sort-of speak, mainly because our primate brains cannot handle the deep complexity of the situation, not to sound like I can or anything, I just am just being realistic. I don't like the idea that people that spend 10 minutes learning something are somehow more advanced than someone who did not learn that information, when in the end it makes little difference than someone who spent their entire life in a jail cell.

I agree totally with OP, it really is quite obvious if you have any ability to think on your own. If you think the government is on our side, then you have been mislead. I mean its great to never have to hunt, or fetch water, diagnose an illness, aid in scientific advancement for the tribe/country or any of the difficult tasks that modern civilization has made an every day convenience. Which enables us to become specialists in specific fields to our choosing.

To the layman that sounds like a fantastic opportunity to make something of yourself. Until you realize that the system is setup to harvest human beings like tomato plants. Take someone care of them when they are little, mold them to your liking,give them the means to take care of themselves by means of currency to buy food,shelter,water, grow them to what you desire, then harvest them and take their fruits for yourself.

Grim but true

By the way, wasn't the first TV broadcast by Hitler? Just sayin..

Who didn't knew this -.-

Pretty sure you never worked in any advertising agency if you don't know the difference between your and you're.

That, and the fact that there are not "whole departments" focused on anything other than selling the product or making a spot that will garner attention (positive or otherwise)much less "whole departments" of people focused on making boobs bigger etc.

If you would, can you PM me where you worked? I have worked in, and with, many over the last 40 years.

Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by MamaJ

 

The specifics of what I said isn't the point here.

My point was that too many seem to enjoy hating on how unbalanced society is, yet do nothing about it.

Many do too...I should add, but many don't and I find that quite hypocritical...

That was the point I was making, albeit poorly I suppose.

In my opinion, you seemed to have missed the point of the OP. It was merely to inform all of the masses who take it for granted that the whole system works for the good of everybody and that our friendly corporations, government, and politicians are angels, heros, and role-models with our absolute best interest at heart; profit is only a side benefit for all of the good deeds the powers-that-be are doing for us. Isn't that the message ingrained since grade school and watching cartoons? A nice technicolor world of us the good guys who can't do wrong.

I believe some people really despise having their little fantasy world wrecked by those such as the OP, who are just trying to get us to see the "real" world out there. My, how DARE them!!

I agree with what you are saying, it all comes down to what some believe to be as illuminati or whatever you'd like to call it the point is your absolutely correct. Any person who has ever tripped on lsd or shrooms probably comes to this conclusion at one point during a trip at least thats how i woke up. Everything you are brought up to believe in is the way your brain is programmed everything stays with you whether you realize it or not. Regular people are brought up believing they have to live and act a certain way to be normal in our world, whether or not you are strong enough to stare evil directly in the face and survive is all up to you but its no easy task for any man. Every human brain is capable of the same thing, the founding fathers of any country for instance all implemented evil in their tasks to achieve riches to gain power over people at one point or another its just the nature of man, but morals and things like religion give me people the sense of right and wrong. Either way if a persons soul is tarnished over a certain extent and they are too weak to fight it they will be lost forever. Anyways thats all im going to say about that.

The TV is an invader in your house... it sits in the corner and says it's
a window to the world.
It shows starving children looking with wide-eyes into your soul and with
sad music, a voice pleads for your money.

In the next instant, the screen tells you that you can't live without this
type of doormat and must go now and purchase it.

It displays violent computer games and with it's exciting all-most real
graphics, it makes warfare scenes something to yearn for.

It indicates that borrowing money to buy trivial things is an easy and
good thing, debt should be your friend -it assures us.
It demeans women and shows them as mere objects for sex and relates
that gambling your hard-earned money is also not a bad thing.

Is it the world and it's inhabitants that is wrong... or the box in the corner?

On a side-note, any rumours of Boy In A Dress actually sucking a duck's
tail are unfounded at this point.

Tell us something we don't know. But in all seriousness, it can never be repeated too often for my tastes.

That said... what does this say about sites like ATS? Is there not a grey area where owners of a business have at least good intentions, which they must balance against their own interests and profit in order to continue to do said business in order to carry out said good intentions?

Or is it all just corruption as far as the eye can see? Opinions?