Strange rocks found on the Moon!

Originally posted by arianna
I would agree with you that enhancements do tend to lose some of the detail, especially in the darker areas, but the procedure can also reveal detail that cannot normally be observed in the original.

As you can see in my post, the white areas are also affected, because the method you use increases the contrast.

The features ringed in red all have something in common about them. I'll leave it to members to fathom out what these features have in common. After viewing the image for a while the link between them may register and become apparent.

I will try to see if I can detect those common features.

The features ringed in yellow would appear to be structures. In this view we have to remember that the viewpoint is far above the surface.

What difference does it make that the photo was taken far above the surface? The only thing that matters is resolution, regardless of the altitude at which the photo was taken (although, in case and in cases like this, the resolution changes with the altitude, as the camera has a fixed lens that doesn't zoom in or out), and in this case the resolution is some 60 cm per pixel.

Originally posted by arianna
When viewing the colorized version (above) it would appear there are many objects and features showing that should not be dismissed as just being "rocks" or natural geological formations.

But when looking back to the same spot in the original we can see that they look like rocks or natural geological formations.

The areas your circled all seem to have faces in them and look alien but I dint know why and susPect my minds creating it

Originally posted by ArMaP

Originally posted by arianna
When viewing the colorized version (above) it would appear there are many objects and features showing that should not be dismissed as just being "rocks" or natural geological formations.

But when looking back to the same spot in the original we can see that they look like rocks or natural geological formations.

I agree. The original does gives the viewer the impression that they are natural formations but we now know from viewing the enhanced images the landscape formations would appear to be constructed to an intelligent design.

Let's assume that beings of an alien race or from Mars colonised the Moon. Is it possible that over time these beings could have designed and terraformed the landscape to appear as being natural when viewed from space or this planet? The enhancement of the original image shows that what the 'natural formations' really are can only be realized when viewed close up.

Originally posted by eyesdown
The areas your circled all seem to have faces in them and look alien but I dint know why and susPect my minds creating it

No, your mind is not creating it! You are spot on when saying you see faces but I am not sure about them being alien. They look more human-like to me. This would appear to be a major part of this civilization's cultural identity. This civilization appear to create staues and buildings in their own facial likeness. If the enhanced images are studied very closely there are many instances where statues and facial representations can be observed.

Strange rocks found on earth.

The moon shots are taken 62 miles above the surface. How on earth (forgive the pun) could we get photo's clear enough to determine what they are. I can't discern anything except the surface of the moon. Who would carve faces on the moons surface (which would have to be hundreds of miles across wouldn't they)?
Sorry. I am totally confused here.

In this view I have circled many of the features that do not appear to be natural formations.

If we assume that there is a large alien presence on the moon then things are starting to add up and make sense. In many of these images there are many white or lighter-colored dots and patches. I believe at some point the residents changed their building materials to the lighter-colored material. You will probably notice there are many facial representations in the image. These representations can be observed in other lunar images as well.

The arrow is pointing to what appears to be a dark-colored pipe between two structures.



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Originally posted by arianna
I agree. The original does gives the viewer the impression that they are natural formations but we now know from viewing the enhanced images the landscape formations would appear to be constructed to an intelligent design.

No, we do not know that, that's just your interpretation, to me they look like rocks and craters with too much contrast.

Let's assume that beings of an alien race or from Mars colonised the Moon. Is it possible that over time these beings could have designed and terraformed the landscape to appear as being natural when viewed from space or this planet?

Assuming that there was once intelligent life on Mars and that they somehow colonised the Moon and watched things evolve on Earth, I agree that it is possible that they somehow camouflaged the landscape that was changed by them so it would not be noticeable from Earth or from orbit

The enhancement of the original image shows that what the 'natural formations' really are can only be realized when viewed close up.

But how could a change in contrast show that this was a camouflaged area? What kind of camouflage disappears when you look at a photo with less detail?

Originally posted by arianna
No, your mind is not creating it!

It is, I also saw them.

There was an ATS member that posted many photos of what he said were faces on Mars or the Moon, and while discussing things with him I started to understand how he saw those "faces" and I started to be able to see them, although I always saw them as things that looked like faces.

To ArMaP, I wonder if you help with this request.

I am trying to use the 'quote' feature to select a small block of text but unfortunately the editor keeps posting everything that's in a post. Is there an adjustment to get over this problem?

I will answer your post later if I can get the 'quote' problem resolved.

Originally posted by OzTiger
The moon shots are taken 62 miles above the surface.

This photo was taken at an altitude of 61.48 km, not miles.

How on earth (forgive the pun) could we get photo's clear enough to determine what they are.

The camera is really a small Cassegrain telescope, as you can see here, so, at that altitude, it can make photos with a resolution of 60 centimetres per pixel, enough to show objects as big as a car.

Originally posted by ArMaP

Originally posted by arianna
No, your mind is not creating it!

It is, I also saw them.

There was an ATS member that posted many photos of what he said were faces on Mars or the Moon, and while discussing things with him I started to understand how he saw those "faces" and I started to be able to see them, although I always saw them as things that looked like faces.

Exactly! The representations are built into constructions or set of objects that in my opinion have been intelligently arranged or constructed to give the appearance of being 'faces' when viewed from a distance above. The reason for this could be that whoever is on the moon knows that life exists on this planet and the facial representations are a means of advertising the fact that the moon is already occupied by beings with a human-like facial appearance.

Therefore, if it's true that the Apollo 11 crew did see an alien spacecraft 'sitting' on the rim of the crater it's quite possible that the craft and the beings inside them may have come from a base somewhere on the moon.

Originally posted by arianna

Originally posted by eyesdown
The areas your circled all seem to have faces in them and look alien but I dint know why and susPect my minds creating it

No, your mind is not creating it!

Don't be so sure of that. Our eyes and minds can create faces just about anywhere, even where no faces exist. For example:

en.wikipedia.org...

Do you see a face there? I do, as I suspect do most people. I can even tell you the expression on the face, it looks kind of surprised, doesn't it?

But it's just three holes in a cardboard box.

If you don't realize that our brains play tricks on us all the time making us see faces where there are none, then you have much to learn about the way the human brain works. You can read some more about it at that link.

Originally posted by Arbitrageur

Originally posted by arianna

Originally posted by eyesdown
The areas your circled all seem to have faces in them and look alien but I dint know why and susPect my minds creating it

No, your mind is not creating it!

Don't be so sure of that. Our eyes and minds can create faces just about anywhere, even where no faces exist. For example:

en.wikipedia.org...

Do you see a face there? I do, as I suspect do most people. I can even tell you the expression on the face, it looks kind of surprised, doesn't it?

But it's just three holes in a cardboard box.

If you don't realize that our brains play tricks on us all the time making us see faces where there are none, then you have much to learn about the way the human brain works. You can read some more about it at that link.

How right you are! Faces can be see all around us in nature if one looks for them They appear on rocks, soil and clouds are some examples. What I am saying is that the faces, as can be observed in the circled image above, appear to the viewer as being faces. The characteristics of the shapes seen in the image can also be seen on rocks etc on the martian surface. But with all these recognizable shapes there is one special peculiarity about the formation of the facial shape that determines if it meant to represent a real face. I shall try and find some examples of what I am referring to as it is better to view a visual representation than put the description of what it is into words.

I am about ready to post a few of my best crops in response to this thread. I just want to review the site's policy on such things as I have not done this here before. Rather than post my own impressions about them straight away I will see what others think. I do not want to bias anyone (since that will be done by others anyway).

It was very interesting doing this. Along the way I (re)discovered Opportunity's website and I had something of a filed day with a few of the images it has downloaded recently. I am fascinated by the things I discovered there.

Let me say this before I do post my stuff. Remember we are dealing with an original image that is very far (many km) from the camera. Bear in mind that it is possible that these artifacts have been lying on the surface of the moon for possibly many, many thousands of years. Even though the moon is a comparatively quiet environment, rocks slide, meteors crash and solar events have impact. In support of the many people who spend serious effort analyzing photos of the lunar surface I do have to stand in full support of any of them who feel the moon is a veritable museum of past[likely intelligent] activity. Even the relatively untrained eye can spot things that do not look 'right'. It is the trained, experienced eye that can separate out software defects, photographic defects, natural phenomena and so forth to reveal things that are truly anomalous.

Originally posted by Malkuth
Even the relatively untrained eye can spot things that do not look 'right'. It is the trained, experienced eye that can separate out software defects, photographic defects, natural phenomena and so forth to reveal things that are truly anomalous.

Thank you Malkuth for spending time on the images. I look forward to viewing your work. Yes, it's quite amazing what can be discovered when one spends time analysing the content of the images.

Arianna, you are welcome. I can't say that my images will convert many skeptics, but the minds that I would like to change the most belong to those who are willing to invest their own personal time and energy doing similar work. As we all know, some skeptics are skeptics because they feel it flatters them on some superficial level. I want most to hear from people who have been willing to spend a few hours just manipulating known pictures of rocks in a desert, then ruins in a desert, then buildings in a desert....all so they have some knowledge base from which to compare images which may be truly unusual. Welll...here we go........

Test-post of images, seven in all. Note: Lalandefarside (the first in the list) is not from the original OP post. It is from a region very close by, namely Lalande crater.





















To appreciate how unusual some of the features are within these images, let your eye be drawn to whatever seems most interesting down at a minute level, then consider carefully the environment, the scale, the direction and intensity of light and the terrain nearby. All of us understand that nature can produce spectacular arrangements, but when it does so, it tends to be highly localized and rarely , if ever, repeated. The features in this area are, in my view too numerous, too ordered or symmetrical for all of it to be the natural outcome of ordinary processes. I have not added color or made any marks on these images because these can often bias a viewer. These images are powerful, in my view. If people want me to highlight certain features for what ever the reason I will do that, or course, but it is best to let the images stand on their own at first presentation.I did not add anything to these images. I varied contrast and brightness only.

Originally posted by Malkuth
To appreciate how unusual some of the features are within these images, let your eye be drawn to whatever seems most interesting down at a minute level, then consider carefully the environment, the scale, the direction and intensity of light and the terrain nearby.

The direction and intensity of the light were removed by the processing applied to the images, we can only see black and white areas, with no way of knowing what was a bright area or darker but with more light area, or between a dark area from an area that was in the shadow.

All of us understand that nature can produce spectacular arrangements, but when it does so, it tends to be highly localized and rarely , if ever, repeated.

The fractal nature of most natural things is exactly that, a repetition with slight differences. I have seen many cases in which a natural arrangement of something (for example, bubbles at the surface of some liquid) is repeated a little way from that place, but with a slight change in size or position of the arrangement.