Your Thoughts About The 1,000 Year Reign?

Originally posted by jhill76

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
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How is that unBiblical?

Okay then, can you show me where it is Biblical?

He calls everyone children as well. I'm providing extended information that's not included in scripture. Each prophecy or lesson in the bible doesn't have extended information, but mainly high level overviews.

As always, you can always go to Father to confirm what I say.

Yeah, Peter kind of warned us about listening to people who have a private interpretation of scripture/prophecy.

Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by jhill76

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by jhill76

 

How is that unBiblical?

Okay then, can you show me where it is Biblical?

He calls everyone children as well. I'm providing extended information that's not included in scripture. Each prophecy or lesson in the bible doesn't have extended information, but mainly high level overviews.

As always, you can always go to Father to confirm what I say.

Yeah, Peter kind of warned us about listening to people who have a private interpretation of scripture/prophecy.

Put what I say to the test. Go to Father and ask him is what I state true? This information is coming from above, not my own mind.

Originally posted by jhill76

Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by jhill76

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by jhill76

 

How is that unBiblical?

Okay then, can you show me where it is Biblical?

He calls everyone children as well. I'm providing extended information that's not included in scripture. Each prophecy or lesson in the bible doesn't have extended information, but mainly high level overviews.

As always, you can always go to Father to confirm what I say.

Yeah, Peter kind of warned us about listening to people who have a private interpretation of scripture/prophecy.

Put what I say to the test. Go to Father and ask him is what I state true? This information is coming from above, not my own mind.

Why in the world would I go to the Father and ask Him if what you say is true when it already goes against His written Word? God will never violate His written Word. There is one "angel of light" who teaches things contrary to the Word.

I believe that the 1,000 year reign is not literal... as the bible previously states... that to God 1000 years is as of one day, and one day as 1000 years. So to me, the thousand year reign will be one day. The one day that the universal truth becomes known, and we all discover how stupid we were for missing the point this whole time.

This is so elementary:

6,000 years of history (from Adam)

1,000 years of rest

Yes, the millenium is a Sabbath millenium. Christ will take his Bride in this time peroid, and it will also serve as their honeymoon. The overcomer Christians will rule with Him, rod of iron and all.

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What I say is not against his Word, but your own interpretation of His word. You let the bible be your guide instead of letting Father be your guide. He will lead you to all understanding.

The bible is not 100% accurate. That is truth. Father will confirm this to you, IF you can go to him.

Also, he is not an angel of light anymore. He can't confess that Jesus is Lord, but I can confess Jesus is Lord... You give him way too much credit. Many people do this, if they can't comprehend something, it's the devil providing understanding. Why can't Father send someone to provide that understanding?

Originally posted by jhill76
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What I say is not against his Word, but your own interpretation of His word. You let the bible be your guide instead of letting Father be your guide. He will lead you to all understanding.

Now see, I had always though it was the Father's Spirit who authored His Word. See, ya learn something new everyday I suppose.

The bible is not 100% accurate. That is truth. Father will confirm this to you, IF you can go to him.

So you arbitrarily pick and choose which portions of the Word appeal to you?

Also, he is not an angel of light anymore. He can't confess that Jesus is Lord, but I can confess Jesus is Lord...

So? All born again believers confess that Jesus is Lord. And satan surely can transform himself into an angel of light, that's why the NT warns us of this. He is the same angel of light that appeared to Muhammad in a cave and to Joseph Smith in a vision.

You give him way too much credit. Many people do this, if they can't comprehend something, it's the devil providing understanding. Why can't Father send someone to provide that understanding?

Wait, I don't have any problems comprehending anything in this thread. You've presented something and have yet to provide any support for it. It's not my burden of proof to provide support for your claims, you need to do that.

There is nothing in the Word that says people will not have children during the 1,000 year reign. There is however verses telling what children will be doing in the 1,000 year reign. There is also verses saying a child will not die early during this time.

For a Christian the written Word is our final authority, and certainly any message from God will in no way shape of form go against what's already written in the Word.

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Now see, I had always though it was the Father's Spirit who authored His Word. See, ya learn something new everyday I suppose.

Above considers the Father and His spirit as one.

So you arbitrarily pick and choose which portions of the Word appeal to you?

When the "Word" was given to man, man injected some of his own mind into the Bible. Some things were also lost in translation. The story of Job is not 100% accurate. Marriage between a man and woman, was added by man. This didn't come from Father.

So? All born again believers confess that Jesus is Lord. And satan surely can transform himself into an angel of light, that's why the NT warns us of this. He is the same angel of light that appeared to Muhammad in a cave and to Joseph Smith in a vision.

He can transform, it will be a fake light and not a true light from above. There is a difference. His self will cast a shadow behind him. Above has no shadow. Not only born again believers, there are others, that can do this as well.

Wait, I don't have any problems comprehending anything in this thread. You've presented something and have yet to provide any support for it. It's not my burden of proof to provide support for your claims, you need to do that.

As I stated earlier. If you truly wanted to know, you could simply ask Father. But, this tells me right here you don't want to know, and want to "stick" with what you already know according to self.

There is nothing in the Word that says people will not have children during the 1,000 year reign. There is however verses telling what children will be doing in the 1,000 year reign. There is also verses saying a child will not die early during this time.

Father calls all his children, children. Also, if a child dies during tribulation or even makes it past tribulation, he will enter the 1000 yr. reign as a child. There are many things that are not included in the Bible, this doesn't make it not true.

For a Christian the written Word is our final authority, and certainly any message from God will in no way shape of form go against what's already written in the Word.

What have I said, that goes against his word?

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He is the same angel of light that appeared to Muhammad in a cave and to Joseph Smith in a vision.

Are you saying Muhammad got his word from the devil?

reply to post by jhill76

Father calls all his children, children. Also, if a child dies during tribulation or even makes it past tribulation, he will enter the 1000 yr. reign as a child. There are many things that are not included in the Bible, this doesn't make it not true.

Really, will God's fully grown "children" still be suckling on their mother's breasts??

" The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb … the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them. 7 The cow and the bear shall graze; their young ones shall lie down together; and the lion shall eat straw like the ox. 8 The nursing child shall
play by the cobra’s hole …" ~ Isaiah 11:6-8


Is there anywhere else in scripture where grown men and women of God are referred to as "infants"??

"No more shall an infant from there live but a few days, nor an old man who has not fulfilled his days; for the child shall die 100 years old." ~ Isaiah 65:20



You're more than welcome to believe anything you want to, but don't expect a student of the Bible to jump on the bandwagon of ideas that are contrary to the Bible. Not going to happen. His Word is my final authority

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The nursing child shall play by the cobra’s hole …" ~ Isaiah 11:6-8

As I stated above. If a child dies during tribulation, he will enter the 1000 yr. reign as a child. Babies will still be born during the tribulation. I don't understand how is that going against his Word.

That verse in no way states that new babies will be born, just that there will be babies during this time.

“And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshipped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.

This specifically says who will live during this time. How can anyone "new" live during this time, as in babies.

Originally posted by jhill76
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He is the same angel of light that appeared to Muhammad in a cave and to Joseph Smith in a vision.

Are you saying Muhammad got his word from the devil?

Yes.

"But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed." ~ Galatians 1:8

John tells us that the "spirit of antichrist" will deny the relationship between the Father and the Son. What did Muhammad's angel say? "God has no Son..."

Muhammad even told his wife after he met the angel in the cave that he encountered a "Jinn" (demon), but she convinced him it was an angel of God and to listen to it. Muhammad's initial reaction to this angel was that it was a demon.

Originally posted by jhill76
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The nursing child shall play by the cobra’s hole …" ~ Isaiah 11:6-8

As I stated above. If a child dies during tribulation, he will enter the 1000 yr. reign as a child. Babies will still be born during the tribulation. I don't understand how is that going against his Word.

That verse in no way states that new babies will be born, just that there will be babies during this time.

There will be tree classes of people alive when Christ returns. Christians who were born again during and who survived the Tribulation. People with the mark of the beast who gave their allegiance to the antichrist, and unbelievers who didn't join with the antichrist and refused the mark.

The Christians alive at that time will live out their normal lives. Those who took the mark will be sent to hell, and those who are left who pass the "sheep and goats" judgment will be allowed into the 1,000 year kingdom.

There will be people alive when Christ returns. These people will populate the reign of Christ.

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“And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshipped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.

This says differently.

The Christians alive at that time will live out their normal lives. Those who took the mark will be sent to hell, and those who are left who pass the "sheep and goats" judgment will be allowed into the 1,000 year kingdom.

The Christians will be raptured mid-tribulation. Those who take the mark, will be sent to sit until judgement. Those who accepted Christ after rapture, are the ones who will be allowed into the 1k yr. reign.

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There will be a fourth class, but this is not written here. There will be angels from above posing as men to show men the path.

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And satan surely can transform himself into an angel of light, that's why the NT warns us of this. He is the same angel of light that appeared to Muhammad in a cave and to Joseph Smith in a vision.

Well, even Paul saw some "lights".
One can just as well conclude arbitrarily that it was actually the devil.
Just because Pauls books made it into Biblical canon does not automatically mean Paul had a genuine divine experience.

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John tells us that the "spirit of antichrist" will deny the relationship between the Father and the Son. What did Muhammad's angel say? "God has no Son..."

The bible also tells us that Satan cannot be divided against himself.

So according to this premise, just why would the "anti-christ" spirit start a religion through Mohammad that teaches Satan is an "enemy" and warns against the ani-christ?

Either Jesus was wrong or Islam was started by divine inspiration.
You cant have your cake and eat it, too.

reply to post by sk0rpi0n

Either Jesus was wrong or Islam was started by divine inspiration.

It was started by divine inspiration. Above knew some wouldn't take the Christianity route, so a decision was made to bring this about. This will all be revealed in the end. But, Jesus will be the judge at the end.

jhill76 sez:

When the "Word" was given to man, man injected some of his own mind into the Bible. Some things were also lost in translation. The story of Job is not 100% accurate. Marriage between a man and woman, was added by man. This didn't come from Father.

Laz replies:

Deepen your understanding. The Holy Bible is 100% accurate, or at least, can be restored to 100% accuracy. How? Thru the mathematical discoveries of Ivan Panin, who worked for some fifty years on the mathematical patters in the Biblical text, both in Hebrew and in Greek. Due to these patters, which are far too deep to get into here - just let me say that they are NOT the much ballyhooed ELS codes - we know that the Bible is written as a single document, by a more-than-human-intelligence, and that the original text can be restored mathematically. If man's thinking has intruded into the text, the patterns would show it, but they don't. Whatever sources you have been influenced by are irrelevant. There is sufficient material on the www on the subject of Ivan Panin and what he found. BTW, Panin started out as a literary critic and would-be Bible debunker.

Originally posted by sk0rpi0n

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John tells us that the "spirit of antichrist" will deny the relationship between the Father and the Son. What did Muhammad's angel say? "God has no Son..."

The bible also tells us that Satan cannot be divided against himself.

So according to this premise, just why would the "anti-christ" spirit start a religion through Mohammad that teaches Satan is an "enemy" and warns against the ani-christ?

Either Jesus was wrong or Islam was started by divine inspiration.
You cant have your cake and eat it, too.

That only means satan will not work against himself. Teaching men to deny the Sonship of Christ is nothing new for that old dragon.

Do you think Satan cares if people think he is evil or not?? He only cares in spreading lies and denying the person and work of Christ. Satan doesn't care if you enter the gates of hell with him on your friend or enemy list.