Do these manipulated Apollo images hide an unknown civilization?

reply to post by amongus


I believe the person did use the software on the image of the rover with the astronaut...he basically said here is one image did the layering to show nothing was present...then moved on to additional images with some stuff in the...

reply to post by phishyblankwaters


So you slam someone without even watching the entire vid? That makes no sense.

Originally posted by AlomaRa
reply to post by phishyblankwaters

 

So you slam someone without even watching the entire vid? That makes no sense.

Doesn't it?

It makes a lot of sense if you aren't looking for the truth....

reply to post by NuminousCosmos

Also, it's especially relevant today for these images to be preserved. Kodak film negatives will eventually degrade, no matter how hard we try to stave away decay.

Totally agree with that. In the chemical side of photography, where these images were born, you can produce inter-negatives from the original film, however that produces a positive negative (if you will allow for such terminology), then you create a new copy negative by contact printing the new negative film from the inter-negative. This is a very lossy process, and results in loss of edge resolution, as well as color and contrast changes.

This type of process needs to be done to preserve the legacy technology that produced the images because the originals will indeed deteriorate to dust over the years. However, a high resolution digital image needs to be preserved from the original negatives as well to preserve the quality of image. We all know the problem with crossing into the digital realm.....

Once you go digital, you need a solid link to the original so that there is no ambiguity as to how and when it was produced. This is a huge problem today that current science is trying to conquer. It requires impeccable documentation and encryption technology that can prove beyond a shadow that the digital image was indeed copied from a specified original image.

Originally posted by NuminousCosmos
I don't have access to originals, but perhaps the nice folks down in Arizona might be willing to help you:

apollo.sese.asu.edu...

Also, it's especially relevant today for these images to be preserved. Kodak film negatives will eventually degrade, no matter how hard we try to stave away decay.

I would also think that if any of these college kids have seen things "out of this world" they just might have posted it to Facebook by now!

I just thinking about how many spirits and other ghost photos from old time can be traced back to a very poor quality in the film processing lol. Today I have a good idea of how it worked at time and so many "strange" photos can be easly be explained because of how the process worked.

Not sure if everyone has watched this, but I encourage you to do so. Will definitely give you a new perspective of our reality. Things are being hidden from us, make no mistake. Please watch all of it. These people deserve to be heard.

Summaries of video taped testimony of military, government and private first-hand witnesses to UFO/ET events- On Wednesday, May 9th 2001.

reply to post by 1967sander


Uo veel aul laryn ze lezzoin und you veel like vhat you leryn.

Originally posted by Nicolas Flamel
reply to post by 1967sander

 

Before I start, I like the OPs posts and hope he continues to post on ATS.

Anyway, I decided to try to replicate the OP photos myself and found the panoramic images do contain extraneous information.

Lets start with a panoramic image:

www.hq.nasa.gov...

this image is soooooooooo tampered with its not even funny. And im not talking about the sky, im talking about the terrain. open your eyes

reply to post by BrnBdry


Thanks for the support m8.

For those who think that NASA's TIF files are the real deal: Open your eyes!

Filename - as08-13-2344.tif
ImageWidth - 4126
ImageLength - 4278
BitsPerSample - 8 8 8
Compression - 1 (None)
PhotometricInterpretation - 2
StripOffset - 24514
Orientation - Top left
SamplesPerPixel - 3
RowsPerStrip - 4278
StripByteCount - 52953084
XResolution - 300.00
YResolution - 300.00
PlanarConfiguration - 1
ResolutionUnit - Inch
Software - Adobe Photoshop CS3 Windows

i40.tinypic.com...

As you can see, some things just arent right.

Stupid webite resized it. just compair what im pointing out with the original found here.

www.hq.nasa.gov...

reply to post by BrnBdry


That is a very funny parody of some typical Moon "hoax" believers, and the same sorts of silliness they attempt to *point out*.

You should see the one with all the ridiculous blue arrows added in. Pure comedy gold.

Originally posted by ProudBird
reply to post by BrnBdry

 

That is a very funny parody of some typical Moon "hoax" believers, and the same sorts of silliness they attempt to *point out*.

You should see the one with all the ridiculous blue arrows added in. Pure comedy gold.

First, I wast making fun of anything. Thats my legit thoughts.

Second, do you believe everything the government tells you? Is Obama really bringing all the troops home, or is he trying to get re-elected? Is that photo real, or are they hiding something? Deception is in everyones life almost on a daily basis, if not on a daily basis. Even by people you love. So why would the government be an exception?

reply to post by ProudBird


Regarding your remark: "steering viewing *hits* to the YouTube account" please note the following message on my channel and I quote"

I AM NOT PARTICIPATING IN THE YOUTUBE MONETIZATION PROJECT.
THIS CHANNEL IS CLEAN FROM ADVERTISING AND IT WILL REMAIN CLEAN

I have no other intention than to inform the public. I do not have the intention of making money through "steering" people to my channel @ Youtube unlike many others. Besides, I do not have to do that as users and websites already know where and how to find me!

Greetz,

Sander

Originally posted by ProudBird
reply to post by BrnBdry

 

That is a very funny parody of some typical Moon "hoax" believers, and the same sorts of silliness they attempt to *point out*.

You should see the one with all the ridiculous blue arrows added in. Pure comedy gold.

I read your posts and I can say you are a fool if you think NASA is showing all and they aren't hidinh anything. How shallow thinking. I dont know if these pictures were faked or are real based on this software and Im not willing to think there are ghosts or other dimension creatures walking on the moon based on a software that can do all sorts of shapes but I do not think only what goes public is all that is, and nothing else is hidden.

reply to post by Nicolas Flamel


Hi there,

I have a question for you:

If this is the astronaut taking the photo, where is the camera? The astronauts were wearing them on their chest, right? At least that is what some people claim and NASA has confirmed. The astronauts would not have had handheld equipment to take photographs or shoot movies. The hasselblad camera is black and square from the front, right? So why is there no black / grey or other coloured spot visible on the chest of the astronaut in the visor?

You should also read this:

The camera had no "rigid" connection. The front panel of the remote-control unit (RCU) contained a set of vertical rails that received a bayonet on the rear of the custom pistol-grip bracket attached to the bottom of the camera body. To attach the camera, the astronaut simply slid the bracket down into the rails. It was held in place by gravity and friction. To remove it, the astronaut lifted up on the pistol grip and the camera slid free with little resistance.

Please take a closer look at 09:15 in the video. What do you see there? No camera on the chest of the photographed astronaut nor any object on the chest of the other astronaut. So who took this picture and
with what?

Can you explain this?

Greetz,

Sander

reply to post by 1967sander

If this is the astronaut taking the photo, where is the camera?

This is not the astronaut taking the photo. This is a manipulation of an enlargement of a scan of a print of a negative of a film photograph of a tiny reflection in an astronaut's visor. There is only so much information that can be recorded in any given medium.

Edit to add: You should know that.

Now I'm really confused! Were the moon landings staged in a tv studio, or did we really go there and NASA has doctored the photos..?!
I think these photos show image compression artifacts. I don't believe there is anything sinister here.

reply to post by DJW001

This is not the astronaut taking the photo

First it is the astronaut and now it is not? You confuse me!

So would you please make up your mind? Is it or is it not the other astronaut?

I can find and reveal the tiniest bits of contrast deviation on single pixel level and I tell you this "man" is not wearing anything.

Greetz,

Sander

reply to post by 1967sander
Your logic is out of whack.

Let's look at your thought process here?

Step 1 > I can't see the camera on the figure.
Step 2 > If there isn't a camera, it can't be an astronaut.
Step 3 > If it isn't an astronaut, they couldn't take the picture.
Step 4 > If they couldn't take the picture, how could there be a photograph?
Step 5 > If that isn't an astronaut, it's probably an alien.
Step 6 > Maybe the alien took the photograph?
Step 6 > This means that I'm right about a hidden civilisation on the Moon.

A more logical approach would be to accept that the camera isn't visible due to the size of the image, focal length and reflective sunlight.


Alan Bean Apollo 12

An Apollo 11 example (too large to post).