What is the flash before the plane hits the building?

Originally posted by septic




Shadow's on your side.

Shadow's a no plane in Shanksville Truther. I don't think he's on my side.

If shadow really wants to be on my side he's going to have to drop that and all the Ninjew Crap.

Originally posted by waypastvne

Originally posted by septic




Shadow's on your side.

Shadow's a no plane in Shanksville Truther. I don't think he's on my side.

If shadow really wants to be on my side he's going to have to drop that and all the Ninjew Crap.

edit on 31-10-2011 by waypastvne because: (no reason given)

Yeah, the people who thought up the big lie of 911 wouldn't have thought of creating a "good-cop/bad-cop" entity within the truth movement. Got it. The jig is up, the truth movement supports the government by pretending to be activists but instead they're supporting the official lie. The videos depict an impossible event, therefore people who claim they are possible are either fools or liars.

Originally posted by septic

Originally posted by waypastvne

Originally posted by septic




Shadow's on your side.

Shadow's a no plane in Shanksville Truther. I don't think he's on my side.

If shadow really wants to be on my side he's going to have to drop that and all the Ninjew Crap.

edit on 31-10-2011 by waypastvne because: (no reason given)

Yeah, the people who thought up the big lie of 911 wouldn't have thought of creating a "good-cop/bad-cop" entity within the truth movement. Got it. The jig is up, the truth movement supports the government by pretending to be activists but instead they're supporting the official lie. The videos depict an impossible event, therefore people who claim they are possible are either fools or liars.

edit on 31-10-2011 by septic because: (no reason given)

And thus, you have joined the ranks of the people who claim that all opposition is in cahoots with the government. Good job! There should be a medal for this.

Honestly, the extent to which you must believe the conspiracy to stretch just to maintain your worldview is phenomenal. Really, it says a lot about the human brain's ability to create the world it wants to live in. By rejecting any other possible reality, it substitutes its own and then rationalizes based on the reality it has created. Now, scientifically, this is wrong and completely backwards in terms of true logic and reason.

A true scientist is willing to change his views at a moment's notice. Why do you think so many people jumped on the idea of Einstein being wrong about the speed limit being the speed of light? The concept for change in ideas is well established, as those who couldn't believe the Earth rotates around the Sun had to change eventually. Hell, Galileo was so afraid of being prosecuted by the church that he didn't even have his work published until after his death. People simply sometimes do not like to change their ideas. And face it, septic, you are one of these non-changing people.

Originally posted by septic

The videos depict an impossible event ...

Some people would say that Time Travel, Teleportation and Interstellar Space Travel are an impossibility

im·pos·si·ble   [im-pos-uh-buhl] adjective

1.not possible; unable to be, exist, happen, etc.

2.unable to be done, performed, effected, etc.: an impossible assignment.

3.incapable of being true, as a rumor.

4.not to be done, endured, etc., with any degree of reason or propriety: an impossible situation.

5.utterly impracticable: an impossible plan.

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Ever seen, The Gods Must be Crazy?

reply to post by Varemia


You project mightily, but methinks ye protest too much.

A true scientist is willing to change his views at a moment's notice.

A true scientist will try to justify the views of the people who pay for his research.

An honest scientist will adjust his views if new information contradicts previously held conclusions.

Because the videos depicted an impossible event, an honest scientist would admit the media, academia, the military and government are lying.

To prevent people from adjusting their conclusions based on this information, the government has deployed large websites and large numbers of propagandists - to control the message and the opposition. It's been working for ten years, but they have failed.

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Some people would say that Time Travel, Teleportation and Interstellar Space Travel are an impossibility

The flash was caused by time travellers, or interstellar space travellers then? I'm not sure what you're getting at. If the jet had truly hit the tower, it would have behaved like it...it would have reacted to the building at the same time the building reacted to the jet.

Instead, it behaved like a CGI jet layered over video of an explosion.

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Shouldn't it be possible to prove that it is impossible through a simple model? If you are certain that it is impossible, then you must also know how to prove it, right?

Originally posted by Varemia
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Shouldn't it be possible to prove that it is impossible through a simple model? If you are certain that it is impossible, then you must also know how to prove it, right?

edit on 31-10-2011 by Varemia because: I accidentally a word

Anok's already provided the simple model. It's up to the honest scientist in you to do the rest.

Originally posted by septic
layered over video of an explosion.

Dude that's not an explosion. That's a jet fuel deflagration with inertia. It comes with the plane. If the plane is fake then the deflagration is fake. You don't get to have the deflagration without the plane.

Originally posted by septic
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Some people would say that Time Travel, Teleportation and Interstellar Space Travel are an impossibility

The flash was caused by time travellers, or interstellar space travellers then?

I'm not sure what you're getting at. If the jet had truly hit the tower, it would have behaved like it...it would have reacted to the building at the same time the building reacted to the jet.

Instead, it behaved like a CGI jet layered over video of an explosion.

No I'm not saying that space time travellers were involved in the event, although I wouldn't rule it out.

Who would believe such a thing?

I'm saying the event in it's entirety cannot be fully understood

I do agree with you that the event was an impossibility

Originally posted by septic

Anok's already provided the simple model. It's up to the honest scientist in you to do the rest.

Do you mean the Big Red Truck and Scooter ? Anock is so lucky to have found that. At last he has some proof to back up his Truther Physics.

Originally posted by waypastvne

Originally posted by septic
layered over video of an explosion.

Dude that's not an explosion. That's a jet fuel deflagration with inertia. It comes with the plane. If the plane is fake then the deflagration is fake. You don't get to have the deflagration without the plane.

The flash is deflagration? The wings hadn't come in contact with the tower yet, how could the kerosene be deflagrating?

Whatever the jet overlay was hiding doesn't change the fact that the jet image wasn't real. You can tell by the way the whole jet slid in as one unit, all the way to the tips of the wings and the tip of the tail.

What we saw was impossible in the real world, therefore it was not real.

Originally posted by waypastvne

Originally posted by septic

Anok's already provided the simple model. It's up to the honest scientist in you to do the rest.

Do you mean the Big Red Truck and Scooter ? Anock is so lucky to have found that. At last he has some proof to back up his Truther Physics.

You were the one who pointed out that the physics proved the patent lie of 911. We are all indebted to you.

Originally posted by septic

Originally posted by Varemia
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Shouldn't it be possible to prove that it is impossible through a simple model? If you are certain that it is impossible, then you must also know how to prove it, right?

edit on 31-10-2011 by Varemia because: I accidentally a word

Anok's already provided the simple model. It's up to the honest scientist in you to do the rest.

Oh, come on! I'm tired of this "it's already been posted" crap. At least link me to it.

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www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by septic
You were the one who pointed out that the physics proved the patent lie of 911. We are all indebted to you.

Yes I did, and the fact that you took the bait and ran with it is still funny.

Originally posted by waypastvne

I don't know about the other OSers, but I for one would love to see you explain the crash physics of the plane impacts to septic. Tell us how does aluminum cut steel ? Why didn't the plane just bounce off, like the scooter bounced off the Big Red Truck ? I think that would be most entertaining.

Originally posted by septic
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www.abovetopsecret.com...

There was no model there. It was only ramblings about how Newton's third law will stop the plane from doing anything, which is bogus. Imagine for a moment if you fired both planes at each-other. Let's reduce their speed to 250 mph just so that when the opposite equal reaction happens, it is around 500 (I may not be doing this right lol). Now, theoretically, both planes will destroy eachother and then fall to the ground. Now, imagine a thin wall (in comparison to the plane's mass). The parts of the wall being impacted have far less mass than the plane that is impacting at 500 mph. Even if it was to completely resist the plane, it would sustain serious damage.

I just have to wonder, what kind of super-steel do you think the trade centers were made of?

Originally posted by Varemia


I just have to wonder, what kind of super-steel do you think the trade centers were made of?

Don't forget the steel had a super nano thermite coating for extra strength.

Originally posted by waypastvne

Originally posted by septic
You were the one who pointed out that the physics proved the patent lie of 911. We are all indebted to you.

Yes I did, and the fact that you took the bait and ran with it is still funny.

Originally posted by waypastvne

I don't know about the other OSers, but I for one would love to see you explain the crash physics of the plane impacts to septic. Tell us how does aluminum cut steel ? Why didn't the plane just bounce off, like the scooter bounced off the Big Red Truck ? I think that would be most entertaining.

edit on 31-10-2011 by waypastvne because: (no reason given)

I believe you are being purposefully difficult.

I'm certain you understand the truck and scooter model is simply an illustration of the interraction between two objects based on mass alone.

Steel is three-times as stiff as aluminum, therefore much smaller amounts of aluminum meeting much larger amounts of steel and concrete would lose any any speed. The faster the building hits the plane, the worse the damage would be to both objects, but the plane would take the worst of it no matter how fast the building hit it.

The jet will never slice through the building, at any speed. The 911 videos are composites; not real.

Originally posted by septic

Steel is three-times as stiff as aluminum

Mild steel is not Three times as stiff as 7075 T6 al.

7075 T6 is twice as stiff as mild steel .

Look at the yield figures I gave you.

7075 T6 is the top of the aluminum totem pole.

A36 mild steel is the bottom of the steel totem pole.