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Originally posted by CynicalWabbit
According to Wikipedia, Dimona was in the start-up stage in 1960 and didn't reach critical mass until 1962 and by 1969, U.S. Defense Secretary Melvin Laird believed that Israel might have a nuclear weapon that year.
I highly doubt if Dimona would have created enough fissionable material before November, 1963 for Kennedy to be concerned about.
Originally posted by imawlinn
Man who did this guy's plastic surgery, Mickey Rourk's doctor? All kidding aside, his Kennedy theory is quite interesting. Although probably just the rantings of a crazy man. Btw, that footage of the crowd was not from the time of the speech. They were all jumping around and chanting. Noone would have heard his speech.edit on 22-10-2011 by imawlinn because: (no reason given)
whats say you to this claim ?
"Kennedy wrote E.O. 11,110 to phase out silver certificate currency, not to issue more of it. Records show Kennedy and the Federal Reserve were almost always in agreement on policy matters. He even signed legislation to give the Fed more authority to issue currency"
... When New Orleans District Attorney Jim Garrison charged businessman Clay Shaw with participation in the JFK assassination conspiracy Garrison stumbled upon the Israeli Mossad connection to the murder of President Kennedy. Shaw served on the board of a shadowy corporation known as Permindex. A primary shareholder in Permindex was the Banque De Credit International of Geneva, founded by Tibor Rosenbaum, an arms procurer and financier for the Mossad.
What's more, the Mossad-sponsored Swiss bank was the chief "money laundry" for Meyer Lansky, the head of the international crime syndicate and an Israeli loyalist whose operations meshed closely on many fronts with the American CIA.
The chairman of Permindex was Louis M. Bloomfield of Montreal, a key figure in the Israeli lobby and an operative of the Bronfman family of Canada, long-time Lansky associates and among Israel's primary international patrons. ...
During a discussion on Israel Radio they just dropped this little tidbit. There is a Jew left in Libya. His name is Muammar Gadhafi. At first, I found it hard to believe, but when I Googled "Gadhafi's mother was Jewish" (without the quotes), the first three results all confirmed it. Gadhafi's mother was a Jewish woman who converted to Islam at the age of 9 or the daughter of a Jewish woman who left her husband for an Arab Sheikh.
Originally posted by bjarneorn
Originally posted by intrptr
Too late now. Whatever the man thought is gone. The CNN reports this am said, "He slaughtered his people and Nato began air strikes". So begins the rewrite of history by the victors. If Nato and NWO and TPTB killed him then he was probably doing something right.
What you, and all of the rest of you do not understand ... that this is a list, and somewhere on this list, is YOUR name ... and when all the people beneath YOU are gone, then YOU are the runner up ...
The time will come ... when THEY come after YOU ...
are you prepared?
Originally posted by Section31
Tell that to the victims of Charles Manson.
Originally posted by Edgecrusher26
reply to post by Section31
You do realize Bush and Obama have ordered more strikes that killed innocent civilians then Gaddafi right?
Originally posted by NadaCambia
Originally posted by Myendica
reply to post by NadaCambia
you should be banned for such heinous accusations. How does looking at Gaddafi subjectively, and sidng on some of his policies have anything to do with the Nazis? Are you ok? Fireal dude.. Great post by muzzleflash though! I agree to some extent.
Because you can equally, if you so felt like it, make a similar post about the positives of the Nazi party. The language used by muzzleflash is extremely poor and whatever good Gaddafi did - And he did do good, nobody denies this - doesn't change the fact he was a brutal man who should be condemned. The positives he did does not excuse the negatives, and equally if he's going to make such a post then he must stand true and justify other brutal men who happened to have done positive things for locals in national interests
Sure, Gadaffi didn't kill millions, but he was still a brutal dictator and his positive socialist policies do not change that. In the same way Hitlers positive socialist policies - and there are many, if we're to be mature adults here - did not excuse his barbaric acts.
Gadaffi however well intentioned was a fruit loop and you tread dangerous territory by making a martyr out of him. I'm not so much against the statements of facts Muzzle is making - many of which I happen to agree with - but the language he's using and the way he's using it.
There are many brutal men with good things to be said about them. It's disingenuous to point out the good aspects of Gaddafi and paint him as a victim of Western interests and imperialism while omitting the many things about him which made him crazy and hypocritical.
That's all I'm saying. I wasn't trying to say that muzzle is a NAzi, but rather to say that you could justify many an evil brute with many of the positive qualities muzzle is putting on Gaddafi, and equally you can attribute their same death or political defeat to Western imperialism and interest.
I can take muzzles post and replace, quite fairly, Gaddafis name with any number of dictators and mass murderers.
Originally posted by ELahrairah
reply to post by randyvs
One guess would be that he nationalized his oil and put the profit back into his nation and people.
The PETROPHILES probably couldn't stand the fact they he wouldn't share all that sweet crude with them on their terms.
I imagine it is a similar situation with Venezuela and Chavez.
I guess your dictatorship is safe from invasion as long as you don't have any resources to exploit.
Originally posted by Section31
Originally posted by SecondAmendmentUser
The same thing can be said about the US elite rulers (unseen and seen eg Bush+Bush, Nixon, Johnson, Reagan, Ford, Obama, ect)
EXCEPT OUR dictators are much more maniacal and blood thirsty. OUR criminal regime has murdered millions and cause a LOT more grief and pain.
Period.
Give me a break.
Rhetorical nonsense for hippies.
"Peace, love, and embrace the dictator!"
like obama murdering a us citizen without a trial of his peers? yeah the guy in yemen was an american citizen that should have been tried for treason. Not murdered in cold blood.
Give me a break.
edit on 10/21/2011 by Section31 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Edgecrusher26
reply to post by Section31
You are genuinely clueless aren't you?
You do realize Bush and Obama have ordered more strikes that killed innocent civilians then Gaddafi right?
So why take sides?
Would you be happy to see a rebel army find Bush and Obama and shoot them in the street?
I would and i hope majority of people on here would too.
Originally posted by TheMindWar
reply to post by predator0187
Kennedy was killed for a variety of reasons, especially his determination to stop the secret societies Nd bring power back to the constitution and the american people.