E.T. = Friend or Foe??

Any civilized E.T. race that observed Earth for a day would turn their ships away. Earth culture isn't complete enough to deal with itself let alone handle space relations. Universal live & let live (or die). If they're out there, they don't care to interfere with our world.

reply to post by navy_vet_stg3

If the bible is wrong,

If the Bible is right, then it means the majority of the world's population is wrong...

That's the thing about Western religions (and some Eastern ones)...it's all about WHO'S right and WHO'S wrong, instead of WHAT is right and WHAT is wrong. The Bible, like it or not, is a compilation of books (with many missing) and is itself, a mish-mash of different religious texts and ideas, written by monks who, like other men of their time, took everything as an omen from the supernatural.

That isn't to say there isn't some good there....there is in all religious texts, without a doubt. But, you won't dind any direct accounts of ET in there (some loose possible UFO sightings, yes, but no conversation with them). Of course, some will use the whole demon/devil/angel bit and say THEY are actually aliens, etc. But, what can you do?

The thing is, the existence of aliens doesn't necessarily contradict the Bible. The whole "in his image" bit could easily be made to include other bipedal humanoids.

Originally posted by RA777
so...

that just either means they are observing us like their lab rats.
or they are waiting for the time is right.

Or for the quarintine placed on Earth to lift fully soon. I look at it like this if I was hunting demons I would seek their home and set up around hells gates until the right time. MANY are to recieve markings of higher or lower frequency related so its up in the air. The energy I sense from what I see outside my house from time to time seems observant. dont feel fear off whatever it is I see just studying. So we shall see my friend RA777

but still??

how doe we insignificant humans know how far a star can travel in thousands of years??
a more advanced E.T. may be even able to move their stars.

also what was the deal with the earth rotation changing??
if that happened it probably happened before.

also so many crop circles and self proclaimed channelers,
really we dont know..
ufo sightings and etc, other nations having ufo on their flag?

crop circles giving us sacred geometry and etc.

its like they are messing with us or something.

Originally posted by Ophiuchus 13

Originally posted by RA777
so...

that just either means they are observing us like their lab rats.
or they are waiting for the time is right.

Or for the quarintine placed on Earth to lift fully soon. I look at it like this if I was hunting demons I would seek their home and set up around hells gates until the right time. MANY are to recieve markings of higher or lower frequency related so its up in the air. The energy I sense from what I see outside my house from time to time seems observant. dont feel fear off whatever it is I see just studying. So we shall see my friend RA777

i think i understand what you are trying to tell me ophichius.

Originally posted by Gazrok
a) We would have been invaded, enslaved, eaten a long time ago (depending on their motive)

er... There are good rumors about those three, you know...

I think it more logical to think we could have been enslaved a long time ago, or even recently, without us knowing.

Why kill us all? If we were to be stock for food, they would do with us like WE do with cattle.
There are hundreds of thousands of people who disappear without ever leaving a trace world wide, each year, never to be found again. These could be thought as food stuff, in a what if situation.

The enslavement would be a more useful tool as the population would be working towards the Aliens goals and the best way to do that is to infiltrate, or manipulate, people in positions of power. We're talking invading a planet here. The Aliens would only have to do accounting, which is easier to do than mining... We know that in the past, some people were designated Kings by their respective Gods. Rulers of the people by Divine Decree.
People were either kept in a state of ignorance and easy to manipulate, or they were witnesses to something they considered bigger than themselves. Aliens passing as Gods is as good an explanation as any.

Who knows where are really all our piles of precious metals, resources?... We are told many things that we know are lies... Why would we be told the truth about this? I've only heard rumors about their existences...

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More on topic, at the beginning of this summer, one morning, I got out and as I was walking towards my car, I looked in the sky and was very puzzled by what I was seeing.

The sky was essentially blue. There were those two little strips of clouds, rapidly appearing from the same unmoving spot in the sky. I could tell because I could see the top of the buildings and the clouds appearing from the same place without movement from the "birthing" spot.
But what was weirder is that both strips of clouds were being pushed down soon after their apparition. But they were only partially pushed down; only their middle parts were, their sides remaining somewhat unaffected...

I watched a good 5 minutes and I know It lasted a good 5 more minutes as I was driving and still seeing it. I don't know when it began though. The impression I then had was that it was some kind of exhaust of an invisible craft. And I wish my kodak had been ready to use.

If they were aliens, they didn't seem to be menacing. Maybe scouting for a coming invasion?... ( it's a what if... )
In which case, It would be safe to call them foes...

oh thats what chemtrails do.

they push down the clouds its like a chemical reaction of some kind.

i see this happen all the time.

its to make it harder to see the things happening above.

like photon belt, ufo and etc.

its to keep us in the dark it doesnt really do much.

it just blocks these things from us.

imo, of course.

Friend or Foe ?

Both a Friend and a Foe can have the same effect on a person . So called friends have been dishing the BS about the so called foe for far to long .

Just because we can speculate that they " may " be our foe doesn't make it true does it ? Where is the proof that they did actual harm to make them a foe ? Who has told us that they could be our foe and would those people that told us that really be our foe instead ? Should we embrace them , who the heck knows .

When their existence has been denied or covered up , who is being the foe ?

The saying "keep your friends close and your enemies closer" is a matter of perspective . IMO

if the star rigel isnt 777 lightyears away why does wikipedia say this.

just sayin.

Heres an idea that most will turn down since humans have been programmed to see only a spicific thing.
But what if...

There are no aliens.
By meaning, what if the so-called aliens are simply humans from the distant future comming back in time to see how humans of the past existed. Or future humans traveling back in time to see if they can change the past at certain points along the time spectrum. Little things, or the outcome of larger things. So that in there time line nasty things don't happen.

What if..

Ancient aliens weren't aliens at all but past human civilizations that became highly advanced, put away wars and ventured out into space to colonise. Then there time period stopped when a natural worldwide disaster happened, ie flood, comet impact, tetonic landmass shifting. They knew of there own destruction so one group decided to build megalithic structures to be remembered up the line of time by future humans. The other group decided to leave in ships to go forth and colonise other worlds.

What if these so-called aliens are simply advanced humans comming home to the womb world.

Most of the so-called UFO's you see are those glowing orbs, think of them as more like the military's preditor drone program. Why send a space craft when you can send a drone to check out the humans.
Humans no matter what time period your from or what civilization your from have one big thing. Curiosity. Course when EGO gets in the way we have wars.

Nostridomus wrote of the "watchers". A advanced race of beings that have ships, but do not interfear with humans evolution. They simply watch, until the time that humans put away there war like EGO's.

My take on all the little green & grey aliens with big eyes that everyone suposed to have seen is a mind control aspect of TPTB, that want to place fear in humans, to keep them as slaves to thosands of everyday things. Sometimes one has to be a bit extreme with the cattle but in the end the program continues.

So you ask if the aliens are friend or foe?
What if there are no aliens..

hmmmm...

ok but in the vastness of the universe,

in the vastness of dimensions etc.

i believe there are E.T. out there.

i also believe we are being prepared for it.


and humans from the future??

why would humans want to come back to there past to do nothing and change nothing.

just sayin.

Originally posted by Ophiuchus 13

Originally posted by RA777
so...

that just either means they are observing us like their lab rats.
or they are waiting for the time is right.

Or for the quarintine placed on Earth to lift fully soon. I look at it like this if I was hunting demons I would seek their home and set up around hells gates until the right time. MANY are to recieve markings of higher or lower frequency related so its up in the air. The energy I sense from what I see outside my house from time to time seems observant. dont feel fear off whatever it is I see just studying. So we shall see my friend RA777

Sometimes the seed you use do not make a good harvest because the wheat beside is sick and the earth have become arid. Should we hope for a full harvest or a medium with sick seed that will continue the sickness or a small harvest where the sickness don't exist att all. Do somebody have a miracle up their sleeve that will remove the sickness.

And yes of course we are quarintined. Since you would not give nuclear weapons to an islamic fundamentalist do you think we will get technology to destroy ourselves from more advanced creatures. That is the paradox. Because of our ego to have more and unwilingness to act nice to each other we won't create or be given the solutions that would have given us plenty.

reply to post by RA777

if the star rigel isnt 777 lightyears away why does wikipedia say this.

Wikipedia? OK:

en.wikipedia.org...

Distance 772.51 ly (236.96 pc)

Also:

Spectroscopic estimates of Rigel's distance place its distance between 700 and 900 light-years (210 and 280 pc), while Hipparcos's measurement of its parallax gives a distance of 773 light-years (237 pc), with a margin of error of about 19%.

We can only estimate distances of stars....closer they are, the more precise we can be.

i agree the PTB with the aliens you describe are a mind control thing.

like the show V with the reptillians.

that show is obviously to make us scared of E.T.

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oops my bad, when i was looking at the orion constellation on wikipedia it said 777.

now that i bring this to ats wikipedia no longer says this.

i still believe this star is 777 LY away.

but again, this is my perspective doesnt have to be yours.

i mean it would be pretty easy for someone to i dont know.

plant disinformation?

especially if there is a margin of error that great.

Originally posted by apushforenlightment
Should we hope for a full harvest or a medium with sick seed that will continue the sickness or a small harvest where the sickness don't exist att all.

NON existent (sick) I just wish there was away to modify more of the harvest to become worthy. Its sad. I mean if I notice 3 of 4 apple trees are not producing good apples I would then try to move the bad trees to the good fertil land to grow instead of letting them wither away, but 1 has a Earth based mind incorporated so 1 cares more for those sick, just wish there was a better way...

so even though that may make me look like a fool,

doesnt matter.

i love to be insane.

we've all agreed we dont really know how to tell how far that star really is apparently.

Originally posted by RA777

Originally posted by rigel4
There are no space ships hidden in the clouds or anywhere else.
So the question is moot.

edit on 17-10-2011 by rigel4 because: (no reason given)

says the dude with either what looks like the swamp monster or an E.T. as his/her picture.

just sayin.

whos name is rigel like the star. >.>

edit on 17-10-2011 by RA777 because: (no reason given)

His name is "Greedo"

and "Han" Shot First.

there's no aliens in clouds or enywhere in earth.

But lets play: a friend does not let friend do stupid & destructive things to itself so if aliens are not stopping this BS going on in earth they are not our friends. Simple as that.

i mean, im pretty sure i remember people complaining about disinfo.

and wikipedia, obviously, can and probably is manipulated by TPBP thats how i view this.

i even hear people claim ATS is disinfo.

but i dont know.

i cant claim that or assume that.

i dont know the people at ats.

im still wondering about crop circles and etc.

but ill back down.

( i still believe what i says.)