E.T. = Friend or Foe??

Are the spaceships hidden in the cloud our friends??

or Foes??

what is your personal opinion??

Im going to base my view on this.

the pyramids, which for some reason are aligned to the stars of orion, which is where supposedly the plaiedians come from.

the orion constellation is reffered to as the three kings.
the star rigel, is 777 lightyears away.
this constellation is also reffered to as the 7 sisters.
The three big stars are reffered to as the 3 kings.
"Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion?" is found in the Bible's Book of Job.

this is from Wikipedia.


if that star isnt really that many lightyears away then idk.

There are no space ships hidden in the clouds or anywhere else.
So the question is moot.

Originally posted by rigel4
There are no space ships hidden in the clouds or anywhere else.
So the question is moot.

edit on 17-10-2011 by rigel4 because: (no reason given)

says the dude with either what looks like the swamp monster or an E.T. as his/her picture.

just sayin.

whos name is rigel like the star. >.>

I know your probablly looking for a easy choice here, but it's simply not that clear cut. Do I think there is a possability that a E.T. race could be our 'friends', here for the sole reason of the betterment of human kind is some fashon? I do not think that is a impossible scenerio. But, do I think most forms of E.T. life that happen to make it to our small corner of the universe have an adgenda? Absolutely. And it's this fact alone that makes me believe most forms of E.T. life that may come our way are not really our 'friends' but rather self serving to a varying degree. In fact, I think it would be a ver small percentage of E.T life forms that would be selflessly befriending us at all...

Now, if we want to talk interdimentional or time traveling beings, my stance may vary.

reply to post by RA777

Humans are both friends and foes depending on who you or they are. So why can't aliens be either.
I'm quite sure there are malevolent aliens just as there are malevolent people. The same with benign beings from any planet.

Originally posted by HomeBrew
I know your probablly looking for a easy choice here, but it's simply not that clear cut. Do I think there is a possability that a E.T. race could be our 'friends', here for the sole reason of the betterment of human kind is some fashon? I do not think that is a impossible scenerio. But, do I think most forms of E.T. life that happen to make it to our small corner of the universe have an adgenda? Absolutely. And it's this fact alone that makes me believe most forms of E.T. life that may come our way are not really our 'friends' but rather self serving to a varying degree. In fact, I think it would be a ver small percentage of E.T life forms that would be selflessly befriending us at all...

Now, if we want to talk interdimentional or time traveling beings, my stance may vary.

i agree in a way. some may be friendly, some my be neutral, and some may be not so friendly.

just like on earth i think it would work the same in the cosmos.

reply to post by RA777


The concept of lightyears came around WAYYYYY after these alleged prophecies came about. Sorry, no numerological significance.

reply to post by RA777

E.T. = Friend or Foe??

Neither.

I know it seems like either a copout, or a smart alec comment, but it isn't.

If they were our friend:

a) Friends don't keep their existence a secret
b) Friends help each other (and sharing interstellar tech would basically free of us of our dependence on any resources)
c) They'd establish relationships with us

If they were our enemy:

a) We would have been invaded, enslaved, eaten a long time ago (depending on their motive)
b) Those in the know would release the info, arm the public (with both knowledge and arms), and simply dare them to try it (we'd still lose, of course, just based on logistics).

So, the only things I can conclude are:
a) They are studying us (but, in all these decades, I think they've got us down, so I doubt this is it)
or
b) They are keeping us confined to our own solar system. (This is the only one that makes sens to me).

reply to post by RA777


Rigel is 772.88 Light Years away, not 777.

And..
The 7 sisters, is The Pleiades ( NGC 1432 and M45 ).

If the bible is right, then Satan was cast to the Earth. Satan is the embodiment of evil, and can only influence, not crate. Therefore, aliens would have to be good, since they didn't come from Earth, and never had the devil's influence.

If the bible is wrong, then aliens could either be good or bad. I would think that a race capable of traveling HUGE distances in space wouldn't be evil or "bad". But, we'll just have to wait and see. I'm betting on there being a combination of good and bad aliens.

reply to post by RA777


ET's are not our friends! When a spaceship does
finally "appear" don't be too quick to embrace "them"
as our space brothers!

I think they are catching up on the current world of things. Trying to make sense of whats going on here. Friend of Foe probably depends on those observed....

reply to post by RA777


I don't think it's a friend or foe answer but more a, some are and some aren't, and to ask which is and which isn't, is just a thread full of guesses and feelings because who really knows.

reply to post by Gazrok


but.. how do we know they are keeping their existence a secret?

what about unexplained crop circles, and self proclaimed channelers?

maybe they are just communicating with us in a way we dont understand yet?

thats my opinion.

reply to post by RA777


Ummmmm...might wanna check some basic astronomy:

..... the stars of orion, which is where supposedly the plaiedians come from.

M45, Messier 45, the "Pleiades" are not in Orion. They are in Taurus.

(Scroll right to see the Pleiades):


my.execpc.com...

Messier 45


So, a proper question might be: "Are they here at all?"

Secondarily, "Why is there so much incorrect lore surrounding this topic?"

reply to post by ProudBird



whell, maybe since biblical times and etc,
just as things in our solar system change orbit,
things in the galaxy most likely do they same.

thats how i view this.

The Orion pyramid theory is new age and not supported by ancient writings and glyphs. The Egyptians probably knew of Orion as most stargazers have realized them in the past but there is argument that the Egyptians were so precise in their math and building techniques that the theory is faulty in many areas. Kind of sloppy for all of the other claims of superior knowledge.

Snippet:


Robert Buval originally came up with the pyramid and Orion OCT while on a camping trip in the dunes of Arabia in 1983.. There was no Egyptian papyrus, pyramid hieroglyphics, or book of the aliens,that suggested a correlation. It was three dots in the sky that appeared to mimic the pyramids closely but not accurately. ( if a star map of Orion is laid over the pyramids, the stars do not line up perfectly with the pyramids that it is suppose to represent.)

Source: en.wikipedia.org...

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"If the star-aligned shafts in the Great Pyramid tell us the

Egyptians wanted the north sides of their pyramids to face the

northern sky, and south sides of their pyramids to face the southern

sky, why would they arrange Giza with the southernmost pyramid

matching the most northern star of the Belt and vice-versa? If the

Egyptians intended the Giza pyramids and the Sphinx to reflect the

arrangement of the sky in 10,500 B.C., why is the Sphinx on the wrong

side of the Nile? In fact, Bauval and Gilbert had to turn a map of

Egypt upside-down to get the Giza pyramids to match the stars in the

Orion Belt."

source:

www.margaretmorrisbooks.com



As far as friend or foe, don't know. Have never met one after all of these years of searching.

Originally posted by Ophiuchus 13
I think they are catching up on the current world of things. Trying to make sense of whats going on here. Friend of Foe probably depends on those observed....

right we've got people telling us = OMG they're coming to invade us.. but this would of already have happened.
but then we have people, who are saying they're our friend. but they would of revealed themselves.

so...

that just either means they are observing us like their lab rats.
or they are waiting for the time is right.

Originally posted by dcmb1409
The Orion pyramid theory is new age and not supported by ancient writings and glyphs. The Egyptians probably knew of Orion as most stargazers have realized them in the past but there is argument that the Egyptians were so precise in their math and building techniques that the theory is faulty in many areas. Kind of sloppy for all of the other claims of superior knowledge.

Snippet:


Robert Buval originally came up with the pyramid and Orion OCT while on a camping trip in the dunes of Arabia in 1983.. There was no Egyptian papyrus, pyramid hieroglyphics, or book of the aliens,that suggested a correlation. It was three dots in the sky that appeared to mimic the pyramids closely but not accurately. ( if a star map of Orion is laid over the pyramids, the stars do not line up perfectly with the pyramids that it is suppose to represent.)

Source: en.wikipedia.org...

Image from article:



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"If the star-aligned shafts in the Great Pyramid tell us the

Egyptians wanted the north sides of their pyramids to face the

northern sky, and south sides of their pyramids to face the southern

sky, why would they arrange Giza with the southernmost pyramid

matching the most northern star of the Belt and vice-versa? If the

Egyptians intended the Giza pyramids and the Sphinx to reflect the

arrangement of the sky in 10,500 B.C., why is the Sphinx on the wrong

side of the Nile? In fact, Bauval and Gilbert had to turn a map of

Egypt upside-down to get the Giza pyramids to match the stars in the

Orion Belt."

source:

www.margaretmorrisbooks.com



As far as friend or foe, don't know. Have never met one after all of these years of searching.

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edit on 17-10-2011 by dcmb1409 because: (no reason given)

i agree but i still think that since those times, from thousands of years ago,
its quite possible that these stars have move from their original places.

reply to post by RA777

since biblical times and etc,
just as things in our solar system change orbit...

No, not in only those few thousand years. The stars have not changed their relative positions in the sky that much, not enough to be discerned by the naked eye. It is a matter of perspective, distance and parallax.

Although the Earth, and entire Solar System is also moving, the stars are so far that we cannot see them change much, in just a few thousand years. Millions and millions of years, yes....will be discernible differences.

And, do not confuse the precession of the Earth's axis, either. 10,000 years ago, due to precession, all that differed was where on the horizon a particular star might rise or set, at the same time of year. And, which star was the "North" star, depending on the direction our imaginary axis was pointing.

The arrangement of the stars seen in the sky, to each other, differed so little as to be insignificant.

ETA: Wanna have some fun? Download this free program - www.stellarium.org...

When you open it, and set it up as you wish (tailor to your home location, time zone, etc) then you can play areound with the features.

It has a "clock" setting, for year, date and time. It will go back a maximum of 99,999 BC. Or, roughly 102,010 years ago. 100,000 years, and and you can see how the stars' positions have hardly changed.

Then, just go back 10,000 years, and compare.