One month in, protests yet to topple capitalism

Monday marks the one month anniversary of the redistributionist, anti-corporate Occupy Wall Street movement that has spread across the country.

Since the initial descent of disgruntled young people on New York’s Zuccotti Park, none of their speculated demands have been met and the protestors have no intention of ending their demonstrations anytime soon.

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I find this quote VERY disturbing:

The protests have garnered the support and approval of union leaders, liberal activists and Democratic leaders in the highest levels of government. One supporter is President Barack Obama

And all you OWSers say this isnt a left wing movement?

reply to post by HomerinNC


Just because the left is trying to hijack it, does not mean it's a leftist movement friend.

Have you been to any of these protests? Talke to the thousands of people who are coming out? You'll find that most don't fall into the liberal or conservative member around those parts.

These are people united together, without labels for a common cause.

It's best that people remember that while the media tries to pain their great picture. The Tea Party was once a movement like the OWS, until the GOP took it over.

Let's hope that doesn't happen here with the left and OWS.

~Keeper

reply to post by tothetenthpower

The Tea Party was once a movement like the OWS, until the GOP took it over.

Hence we see it happening here
YOUR words, friend

reply to post by HomerinNC


Again, let's hope it doesn't happen, but running around claiming they are already hijacked is only compounding the problem don't you think?

How about instead, we point out how the media is trying to protray this is a left only movement, to pit them against the right, while the rest of the politicians and bankers laugh at us?

It's amazing what a few well placed media assumptions and cropped photos will do.

Perception is everything in politics.

~Keeper

Another way to look at it, is that one month in and capitalism has failed to topple protests.

This protest is starting to pick up steam. It doesn't matter who supports it and who doesn't. That seems to be the beautiful thing about it. The talking heads are not talking about who is supporting the people of the Occupy movement, they are talking about the people whose boots are on the ground. The media keep pointing out, no matter how much they try to make fun of them, that these are real people. These are your neighbors. You can try to discredit them all you want, it isn't working. As much as regular people disagree with this movement, they are part of the 99%, whether they like it or not.

My only hope is that this continues to get traction and keep moving forward.

Originally posted by Rook1545
Another way to look at it, is that one month in and capitalism has failed to topple protests.

Ah yes, positive thought. There is a serious lack of this these days, so I have to commend you for your efforts in the battle of the dualities.

1 month is not very long in comparison to what is being protested.

The system was built over a century.

It will take far longer than a month to motivate change to it.

It will really come down to who sits this out the longest.

If it is anything like the Canadian versions...it won't last much longer once the weather turns for the worse.

"One month in, protests yet to topple capitalism"


I hope nobody was stupid enough to think for even a minute that those wierdball flakes that are "protesting" were going to "topple capitalism"

They are too stupid to even realize that Capitalism is not the problem. Greed is the problem and until that issue is addressed neither Capitalism or whatever kind of socialist/communist system they are advocating will ever result in anything but the situation we have now. All the "goodies" in the hands of a few greedy ruling elite be they Capitalists or Socialists.

reply to post by expat2368


What a strange response.

Considering this protest is not about destroying Capitalism, or creating a socialist/communist state. Your comments echo those of the MMS and the way they'd like the rest of the world and America Population to view this protest/occupation.

It's actually about stopping corporate greed. Just what you wanted!~

Thanks for coming in and giving me an example of what I was thinking of. It's amazing that people say these things, without really understanding their meaning, or having any real clue about this movement, who is a part of it and what it represents.

Well done!

~Keeper

reply to post by tothetenthpower


define 'corporate greed'; is it making money, ala capitalisim?

reply to post by HomerinNC


didn't i just suggest that you can go down to a protest and have all of your question answered in 5 minutes instead of putting all this effort into discrediting the movement on the internet.

reply to post by My.mind.is.mine


Why should I? youre the one protesting it, you should have an idea what it is and be fast to tell us all

reply to post by HomerinNC


have you looked through any of my threads?? in at least 2 of them, i did just that.. but you don't research before you speak, you just wanna run your mouth to try and get some flags from those who disagree with the movement.

reply to post by My.mind.is.mine


Not an option for some people.

Why not tell us yourself if it's so easy to do and the protesters could tell us in 5 mins.

Why should he look through all your posts?

reply to post by My.mind.is.mine


you think i care about a dang flag? wrong. I call things how i see em, sorry it dont fit in with the rest of the OWS pov

reply to post by HomerinNC


Hopefully these protests get to the point where it spreads through America like wildfire. I cannot wait until the time when the spark lights up the dynamite and these corporations topple down and stop controlling the people.

reply to post by HomerinNC


If anyone thought 1 month, 2 months, 3 months, etc is all that's needed for change they're fooling themselves.

reply to post by HomerinNC


Define Corporate Greed?

Making money is not greedy. Hoarding all the funds and making it so that 1% own 40% of the wealth is greed. While countries use tax payer funds to bail out banks who then make record profits and give nothing back, that's greed.

When the disparity of wealth is so much that it's hard to be able to afford kids on two incomes while some ceo makes 100 million a year, that's corporate greed.

When the board members of large corporations are not held responsible for the acts of said corporation, that's greed.

Nobody is against making money, I'm against making money at other people's expense & livelyhood.

In the event that definition is lacking, here's another:

Critics argue that capitalism is associated with the unfair distribution of wealth and power; a tendency toward market monopoly or oligopoly (and government by oligarchy); imperialism, counter-revolutionary wars and various forms of economic and cultural exploitation; repression of workers and trade unionists, and phenomena such as social alienation, economic inequality, unemployment, and economic instability. Critics have argued that there is an inherent tendency toward oligolopolistic structures when laissez-faire is combined with capitalist private property. Capitalism is regarded by many socialists to be irrational in that production and the direction of the economy are unplanned, creating many inconsistencies and internal contradictions and thus should be controlled through public policy.[29]

In the early 20th century, Vladimir Lenin argued that state use of military power to defend capitalist interests abroad was an inevitable corollary of monopoly capitalism.[30]

Che Guevara wrote:

The laws of capitalism, which are blind and are invisible to ordinary people, act upon the individual without he or she being aware of it. One sees only the vastness of a seemingly infinite horizon ahead. That is how it is painted by capitalist propagandists who purport to draw a lesson from the example of Rockefeller — whether or not it is true — about the possibilities of individual success. The amount of poverty and suffering required for a Rockefeller to emerge, and the amount of depravity entailed in the accumulation of a fortune of such magnitude, are left out of the picture, and it is not always possible for the popular forces to expose this clearly.... It is a contest among wolves. One can win only at the cost of the failure of others.[31]

In the United States, the shares of earnings and wealth of the households in the top 1 percent of the corresponding distributions are 15 percent and 30 percent, respectively.[32] Critics[who?] claim that an untamed capitalist system has inherent biases favoring those who already possess greater resources. They say rich people can give their children a better education and inherited wealth, and that this can create or increase large differences in wealth between people who do not differ in ability or effort. One study showed that in the U.S., 43.35% of the people in the Forbes magazine "400 richest individuals" list were already rich enough at birth to qualify.[33] Another study indicated that in the US, wealth, race, and schooling are important to the inheritance of economic status, but that IQ is not a major contributor, and the genetic transmission of IQ is even less important.[34]

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~Keeper

reply to post by aivlas


here's a post of mine from the 12th.. 2 days after a police confrontation was avoided.

the overall understanding down here in ATL is: screw your budget cuts on education, end the fed, end corporate greed, end the corporate choke hold on our government, bring charges against those who gave bonuses using bailouts, end the wars, tax the rich more, and actually put those billions spent on war into this countries infrastructure. when you put money into building bridges, roads, and possibly bringing some industry back into this country, you put millions back to work.

reply to post by Swills


homer is the ONLY person that thought that... trust me..