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Washington Post: "Americans favor Occupy Wall Street far more than Tea Party"

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posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 08:32 PM
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Despite nonstop GOP and conservative disparagement of the Wall Street protests, the most detailed polling yet on Occupy Wall Street suggests that the public holds a broadly favorable view of the movement — and, crucially, the positions it holds


Right on!


The American people seem to be waking up to see the bill of goods the tea party sold the nation...


Time released a new poll this morning finding that 54 percent view the Wall Street protests favorably, versus only 23 percent who think the opposite. Interestingly, only 23 percent say they don’t have an opinion, suggesting the protests have succeeded in punching through to the mainstream. Also: The most populist positions espoused by Occupy Wall Street — that the gap between rich and poor has grown too large; that taxes should be raised on the rich; that execs responsible for the meltdown should be prosecuted — all have strong support.

Meanwhile, the poll found that only 27 percent have a favorable view of the Tea Party.


Owch! Here's that Time poll: swampland.time.com...

It seems to be a pretty rough time to be the tea party...
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posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 08:39 PM
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Do you know where this poll was taken? I think that would make a huge difference on the answers you would get.



posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 08:42 PM
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Nope, as per the link the only info given is:



TIME MAGAZINE/ABT SRBI – October 9- 10, 2011 Survey BASE=1,001 Adults Except Where Noted


*shrug*



posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 08:43 PM
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A Time Magazine poll eh Adolf Hitler was their man of the year and some nice mug shots of Oj Simpson.

seriously with the thumbs up we all know who reads Time its a big two thumbs down on my worthless meter


that poll is not even close to reflecting America.



posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 08:44 PM
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I agree, that people will be more vocal and active with the protest that with the Tea party town meetings, the reason is that with 17 million unemployed in the nation many have not other way to voice their anger, desperation and disagreements but protesting, what else is there to do.


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posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 08:47 PM
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Originally posted by neo96

A Time Magazine poll eh Adolf Hitler was their man of the year and some nice mug shots of Oj Simpson.

seriously with the thumbs up we all know who reads Time its a big two thumbs down on my worthless meter


that poll is not even close to reflecting America.


Clearly you have no grasp on the concept of Time's Man of the Year. It's not an endorsement of the person, it is a reflection on how news-worthy that person is that year.

Let me spoon feed you some info: en.wikipedia.org...


...is an annual issue of the United States newsmagazine Time that features and profiles a person, couple, group, idea, place, or machine that "for better or for worse, ...has done the most to influence the events of the year.


And well, i'm sorry the poll disagrees with your personal view of the world, but well... That's simply how the numbers came out.
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posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 08:48 PM
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man of the year simply means the person with the most influence.. and Hitler was man of the year in 1938.

your attempt to twist things around to your point of view is no better than what you claim they are doing.

what was the motto of this website again? embrace hypocrisy, was it?



posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 08:49 PM
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Not that you can really trust any polls anymore, I doubt the findings of this.

If you list out the values and demands of each group, Partiers vs Occupiers, Americans would identify more with those of the the Tea Party. I know that government has become more socialist, but I haven't seen enough to suggest that the people are.

Occupiers want more government control of business and personal lives. Partiers want less. I don't run a business, so between the two, I go with Partiers just because I don't want more government regulation of private individuals lives.



posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 08:54 PM
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Interesting poll questions, but I think they should have added a line to this poll question...



Q17. OVERALL, WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE BEST WAY TO REDUCE THE FEDERAL BUDGET DEFICIT — BY CUTTING FEDERAL SPENDING, BY RAISING TAXES, OR BY A COMBINATION OF BOTH? Read more: swampland.time.com...


Or reduce military spending by half, closing our military bases overseas, ending our occupations and bringing our troops home.



posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 08:57 PM
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if they had, the Times would be accused of treason.



posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 08:58 PM
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you think but time polls reflect their readership and they lean left apparently someone here doesn't understand that concept the same with any other media source.

poll conservative what they think about ows and you will get a very different result but i dont know too many conservatives that read time magazines or participate in their polls.



posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 09:00 PM
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my attempt? hitler,chez,chavez,stalin and mao worshippers at ows thats not twisted thats the fact.

so many people on this site are in denaial ows its nothing what people are making it out to be take a good look at those demands on their website.

hard left wing extreme ideology.
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posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 09:02 PM
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Rrrrright, Time and Washington Post the two most left leaning papers, so if they say it's so then it must be true.



posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 09:02 PM
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That's great, maybe you can find a poll like that and start your own thread.


Meanwhile, let's not let you derail this thread further. As per this poll, Americans favor OWS over the tea party. This, compounded with the recent news that the tea party simply isn't focused on the 2012 presidential race (see here: www.abovetopsecret.com... ), I do think it seems like a sour time to be a part of the tea party.



posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 09:04 PM
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thats the exact same argument the MSM and everyone else has for ignoring Ron Paul.

"the people polled don't matter"

and i suppose thats true, i wish most people had the courage to form an opinion on their own, without needing to know how everyone else feels first.

but thats the country we live in, its not about who is best, or who is right... its about who's the most popular, everyone wants to vote for a winner.

that was ok back in the days before the media was taken over and started manipulating us... with fake polls. lol
back then the media followed the people, instead of the people following the media. people were so different then, they actually had real lives and real opinions.... anyway..

i suppose thats the big difference with Ron Paul's polls... its the people themselves who are manipulating them, instead of the media.
and i suppose, sadly, thats part of why i like him, because i like the people who like him...
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posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 09:05 PM
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yeah well i seem to remember republicans in wisconsin as so many threads on ats made it out to be

but they still have their jobs your free to believe everything you read your right but those dreams always seem to be shattered case in point.

not to derail your thread it is about a left leaning liberal magazine poll your right.



posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 09:05 PM
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I'm sure you're the first to speak up any time a hard right leaning source is used to start a thread... right?

Back on topic - Do you not have any constructive input on the subject of Americans favoring OWS to the tea party?



posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 09:06 PM
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Right now, with the unprecedented state of America work force and the economy, bringing troops back home will cause a tremendous raise in unemployment numbers, our military bases are now taken by civilian contractors, taking the place of the lost military population.

It will be disastrous, all the layoff from the civilian population top with cuts in military forces leaving ex military and civilian workers in the unemployment lines.

No good, the government knows this and that is why they are keeping troops oversea as long as they can.

Beside the profiteers of war will not have it either.



posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 09:06 PM
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Originally posted by Wolf321
Not that you can really trust any polls anymore, I doubt the findings of this.

If you list out the values and demands of each group, Partiers vs Occupiers, Americans would identify more with those of the the Tea Party. I know that government has become more socialist, but I haven't seen enough to suggest that the people are.

Occupiers want more government control of business and personal lives. Partiers want less. I don't run a business, so between the two, I go with Partiers just because I don't want more government regulation of private individuals lives.


How can you say this and then say that you can't trust polls... "Americans would identify more with those of the Tea Party" Just how do you know this -- did you take a poll??

Just because you want to believe something - doesn't make it so. I am always hearing Tea Partiers saying that Americans want this and Americans want that - I'm an American from a family that goes waaaay back and I find most of what the Tea Party wails about shallow and simplistic - some of it just mean spirited. I don't agree with them at all -- I am an American am I less of an American than them, because they say so.



posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 09:06 PM
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Ron Paul anyone whose listen to him would never go along with the tripe of ows anyone that say he would

never listened to a damn thing hes said.



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