'No Food Rights' Judge quits to work for Monsanto law firm

reply to post by wayouttheredude


Did not know cows were in the constitution.

You learn something everyday

reply to post by jaws1975

Dear jaws1975,

Thanks for the clarification. Wanting to get out of a judgeship is not that rare. My sister toyed with the idea of taking a judgeship but turned it down. The salary is much better in private practice, and judges are more reactive, they have to just sit there until someone bring them a case and even then they just react to attorneys' motions. There is a certain prestige, but after awhile it gets old.

I would wager any amount that his new firm has represented several people or companies in areas he had to rule on as a judge. Besides, assume for a minute there was a bribe. It must have been pretty huge. What did Monsanto get for it? Not a ruling on a case it was involved in, not a state Supreme Court judge, not a decision that went against Wisconsin law. I don't see what the bribe would have been for.

With respect,
Charles1952

Wow, S&F.
So he got a well paid job in return for making people dependent on GM food....
Isn't there a conflict of interest here, or what?
If people are happy & healthy eating food from their own area, which has been the case since the bronze ages, why try to change that?
If you want to get specific, why are there certain villages in Italy & elsewhere where everybody lives to 90+ years, & scientists can only conclude it is 'something in the soil'
More like there was nothing artificial or imported.
That, & lots of olives......

I wish to say "Good luck people of America!"
But
When I look at today's Slovak vote for expanding Europe's bailout fund, I feel once again such helplessness that I almost tend to cry. I've found that one of the things hiding at the bottom of the sadness is anger.
Threads like this make me sad. And... angry then.
There's high pressure in many pressure cookers. And "they" keep heating, spitting spit in our faces. How shall it end?

Originally posted by playswithmachines
So he got a well paid job in return for making people dependent on GM food....

Actually, his ruling doesn't make people dependent on GM food, and there's no reason to believe his return to private practice had anything to do with this case.

Isn't there a conflict of interest here, or what?

You're right, there isn't a conflict of interest here. No one involved in the case has anything to do with his new position.

If people are happy & healthy eating food from their own area, which has been the case since the bronze ages, why try to change that?

He didn't change it. There's nothing in the case that says you can't eat food from a particular area. The basic point of the case is, if you are a farm you have to follow the state rules for a farm.

No right to own what you grow, produce or make? Uhh, perhaps the dill weeds in Corporate forgot the premise of free enterprise must start with "Rights of the Individual". How to legally and appropriately fight such bull s***? Without the $=power, etc, or the connections to corrupt lawmakers (hey, do you really want a corrupt sob as your "buddy"?) about all we can do is bring it to peoples attention. And keep rubbing all our noses in this until we have a major gastrointestinal reaction and enjoy a collective, upchuck.

reply to post by kellynap43


You know I have been on ATS for a while and you learn that there are a lot of members on here and they all have varying depths of analysis on the subject of a given thread of inquiry. Some members come into a thread and comment with only the merest scratch of the surface analysis and others spend some time on the material and related materials do more searching and then come to an informed opinion. Others just kind of bark what ever rattles their fence.

reply to post by arbiture

"No right to own what you grow, produce or make?"

I'm expecting to get a T&C violation for posting the same thing over and over, but arbiture, where did you get that idea? That's not what the judge said. He's only enforcing the rules for farms in Wisconsin.

If you want to argue that he misinterpreted the US Constitution, ok. Or that he's improperly applying the test for strict scrutiny, fine. Or that the Wisconsin legislature should change the law, sure. But not that he's telling you that you don't own what you make, or you can't eat what you want, that wasn't his ruling.

I can't wait till there is a real check and balance to the gov. Every judge senator and congressman need a full review to see if they voted for laws that strip rights of the people. If they have then there needs to be a review of finances and bribbery/extortion charges need to be brought up. Its about time there is account ability for TPTB the corps need time out too if the bribe charge is valid. If things keep going this way we will have no rights.... Eat your grool.. I don't care if you don't like it you have no rights of choice..

reply to post by wayouttheredude


screw it

reply to post by warsight


It is funny you mention this as I had a proposal for such a system for authorship a couple of years ago on this forum. It made transparency in authorship of legislation proposed automatic.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by wayouttheredude


So were is the news?

Everybody is gonna cry till the cows come home then...But now those cows that they own, well they cant legally own them once they come home. Government, policymaker's ie politicians, and law makers, all those things are just revolving doors and have been created not for the people, but as a way for a few to control the many.

Right now it has become a big business, and that business is booming. But fear not for eventually the land shall be sucked dry, and things will be back to normal... eventually. Then rinse and repeat, same old same old. Back to the same games people will go, and play oh so feverishly with there loaded dice.

Really it has been just about the money and as a way for control for a long time, it tell's you something about people that there only starting to see, and figure that out now. My how the dream is turning into a nightmare, and as the veil on this world gets thinner, things will get even more crazy...So stick around, the fun has just begun.

Honestly, I couldn't care less what some entitled schmuck in a dress says I have a fundamental right to or not.

People can split hairs all they want about what's "god-given", "fundamental", "inalienable", so on and so forth. When it comes to food for me and my family, there are a few things that determine what we eat, such as seasonable availability, cost, appetite, timing, etc. However long that list is however, rest assured there are no judges on it. Nor are their any court case presidents or any other "god-given", "fundamental" or "inalienable" boundaries.

It simply doesn't matter to me, because I simply refuse to allow my diet to be dictated to me by anyone other than myself. I'll eat what I want. I'll eat it when I want it. I'll get it from wherever I decide, or produce it in any way I see fit, in any area of my property conducive to it's production.

I also think that this issue should be as irrelevant to everyone, as it is to me. Seriously. I don't care if the guy works for Monsanto or 7-11, he's not telling me what I can and cannot eat. Well, maybe he is, but I'm not listening, and just what the hell is anyone gonna do about it?

Well I guess now we know what side his bread is buttered on.
Sounds pretty par for the course then.

In the moment he made that stupid law, he was already working for them. Or do you think he was really convinced that law was good for the people?.....nah !

If this judge wasnt an idiot , he wouldnt have put (No) (Right) (and food) in the same sentence together , just my honest opinion

Originally posted by wayouttheredude


This is crony capitalism at its best and corporatism at its worst. I am so pissed about this I can hardly type. Who do these creeps think they are to do this with official positions?

I hate it how people like yourself continously call this capitalism, even with the word crony, this is no capitalism at all...

Capitalism is based on a FREE MARKET where anyone can own their own produce and sell them. That is the essence of capitalism.

This judge did a diservice to all Americans, and his ruling should be voided because of a conflict of interest.

It is very probable that he was already offered money, or a job when he was making the decision in the case. This should be investigated right now.

reply to post by ElectricUniverse


Until you come up with a better terminology than crony capitalism or corporatism as I stated I will continue to use those terms. Let me know when you have some better or more accurate term devised.

I can adapt then.

reply to post by wayouttheredude


Seriously so disgusting. I just watched a documentary about Monsanto the other day and it blew my mind. I had no idea, and it's crazy how many people know nothing about this at all. We really have no idea about what we're eating/drinking. Every little thing is becoming more and more controlled.

If anyone cares to watch the documentary "The World According to Monsanto" online for free I've included the link below (well I've tried to embed it anyways! Hopefully it works.

The World According to Monsanto

Originally posted by yellowbeard
What on earth happened to the USA I used to admire, In the old days there would have been a good old fashioned lynching party going after this criminal scumbag.

string him up !

Lynching isn't funny, it's disgusting.

Besides which, it's not the kind of thing we need in society. We can't claim to want real justice and then also do whatever we want with no regard for the law. What needs to happen is a vast overhaul of the legal system and checks and balances put into place to prevent this garbage from ever happening again. However, it's not too damn likely to ever happen.

I still disagree with lynching or any other sort of mob justice.