U.S. Scientist Patents Time Machine. Possible Connection To John Titor?

My thoughts on this are.. When I was studying how electric currents create intense magnetic fields, I considered that a field within a coil had a spin to it (Proved by Faraday and others). This spin created a north and south pole of opposition, whereby energy exiting from one point would loop around and into the other. Metals that are magnetic responsive tend to be pulled into this vortex. What was happening was that the atoms (electrons) began to spin in concert with the power of the electromagnetism.

Having said that, I supposed that with sufficient power, a field could be created that would cause such things as not normally responsive to an electromagnetic field to become responsive. A spinning black hole would be the ultimate, yet would it be possible to create something similar yet far less destructive ? Yes. I believe it has to do with frequency, harmonics, quantum alinement, and polarity. The universe is in a continual flux whereby it is ever expanding so that with each second that perceive time to be, it is literally a different universe in it's entirety. The universal vibration (call it the constant frequency) changes.

If a device could be made that can "harmonize" with a certain state that the universe had been in, it is quite possible to be pulled into that placement where the universe had been when the vibration was such. So let's say that in 1965 the vibration was .000000000651 (Just a random number), and that today it is .000000000656 Today you, me and everything is vibrating (has a frequency of .000000000656). If a device could change that vibration to .000000000651 it should cause you to shift and lock into that placement where the universe had been. You would appear and be in 1965. Then if you decide to change that frequency to .000000000656 you would again shift and lock into where you had been.

To do this you would first need a field that would envelope you and your device. That would be the electromagnetic field. Then you would need something to cause the space within the field bubble to change in frequency to another frequency whereby you would be in that time period. All of this process would take only a few seconds to complete. That is my viewpoint.

Note: The John Titor thing seems like it could work and probably has. His machine used four cesium clocks based on the second to ensure a more stable travel in time. One does not travel through time but in time, as time is merely a dimension, a reference point of change. If you need to know that, look a picture of yourself from some time ago. While the picture is made of physical material in decay, it holds the image of "frozen change" or a moment where the process we call time was frozen and preserved in the form of an image. When you look at the picture you are looking at an image of something that happened at that point of universal change.

reply to post by ALOSTSOUL


one thing any and all of us have to admit is this...

GIVEN that humanity on this planet goes on for millions of years and technological advancement continues in a process that is inundated for this time...and
IF and WHEN.. time travel is actually created...

that means that TIME TRAVEL TCHNOLOGY EXISTS AT ANY TIME IN HUMAN HISTORY

why...

because that inventor or people in control of that inventor's technology.. could BRING THAT TECHNOLOGY into ANY TIME THEY DESIRE TO!

if they invent it 1 thousand years from now...

then they could bring it here and divulge the information and technology to existing humans HERE and NOW.

get it..

k..

time travel is infinite and all encompassing in all-time.

as far as you percieve time as the linear format we perceive it in now...

Picture time as sound. let's say that as time passes the sound gets higher (that would be universal expansion). Now lets say that you could go back to an earlier time (sound wave). If you could change your present vibration (sound wave) to the earlier one, you should theoretically harmonize and become part of that sound, or "vibration". This is what happens at the quantum level.

First you have to encapsulate the thing or person to be moved, then change the quantum vibration to the time you wish to go to and within seconds you should be there. Time is a dimension, not a linear thing. Just like heat is the result of electricity going through a coil of wire induced by an electromagnetic field, Time is the result of universal expansion against the resistance of electromagnetic force. We experience time because the universe expands.

Time travel in the end will prove to be an easy thing to do.

reply to post by marlinpohlman


Ah Marlin thanks for joining.

I have a question, how long before you heard/read about Titor did you come up with your 'Time Machine'?

Also I'm glad to hear your on the mend.

ALS

reply to post by ALOSTSOUL


The great pyramid had/ can have all we need to acquire time travel. The cap stones were made of several stones. emeralds. ruby, diamond and quartz. they had different qualities/uses. Discussed was healing, enhancing organic properties such as seeds, oils, vegetation, herbs and many useful tools for existence. The chambers within, were angled in such a way as to enhance it's qualities, by light, sound and vibrations. Which create many forms of physiology and qualities. to enable processes for use. The sarcophagus was an instrument used for time-travel being in a specific location of the King's chamber/ tomb of dark granite. I may have read that on this site. It has been a year or so since I discovered this amazing feat.
I just wanted to add to the grand discussion.

LOL!!
Looks like Marlin has been a bad boy......

An unremorseful 43-year-old North Portland man stood up in Multnomah County Circuit Court on Monday and told the judge he accepted a plea deal to avoid possible prosecution for Measure 11 crimes.

Marlin Brandt Pohlman originally faced 13 counts, including charges of supplying women with drugs and then sexually abusing them. On Monday, he pleaded guilty to two drug charges, including possessing a large amount of ecstasy, and a third charge of second-degree attempted assault of a woman who spent at least four hours unconscious in the emergency room fighting for her life. Pohlman pleaded no contest to a fourth charge of second-degree sex abuse.

www.oregonlive.com...

kdog1982
LOL!!
Looks like Marlin has been a bad boy......

An unremorseful 43-year-old North Portland man stood up in Multnomah County Circuit Court on Monday and told the judge he accepted a plea deal to avoid possible prosecution for Measure 11 crimes.

Marlin Brandt Pohlman originally faced 13 counts, including charges of supplying women with drugs and then sexually abusing them. On Monday, he pleaded guilty to two drug charges, including possessing a large amount of ecstasy, and a third charge of second-degree attempted assault of a woman who spent at least four hours unconscious in the emergency room fighting for her life. Pohlman pleaded no contest to a fourth charge of second-degree sex abuse.

www.oregonlive.com...

LMAO!! OMG....definitely falls under the category of "You can't make this sh*t up".

The whole Titor affair has a very high strangeness factor. You gotta love this place....

Thanks for the links and laughs.

reply to post by ChaoticOrder

ChaoticOrder posted:

"My thought was that publishing this idea as a patent application would hopefully gain the attention of someone smarter than me (like Paul Andrulis) who would help refine the idea. An academic paper would not accomplish this. "

Since I am Paul Andrulis, (from overunity.com) should I take that as a compliment?

pauldude000
reply to post by ChaoticOrder

 

ChaoticOrder posted:

"My thought was that publishing this idea as a patent application would hopefully gain the attention of someone smarter than me (like Paul Andrulis) who would help refine the idea. An academic paper would not accomplish this. "

Since I am Paul Andrulis, (from overunity.com) should I take that as a compliment?

So,Paul,what's your take on all this?
And ,btw,welcome to ATS.

reply to post by kdog1982


It has been forever since I looked over the information, and the patent, but what I do remember was that I was not overly impressed.

I am not a hardliner, and I am more than willing to openly challenge the scientific status quo wherever it is demonstrably illogical. However there were several points I had serious logical issues with, though I would have to re-read all of it again to put my finger on what was specifically wrong.

In my frame of reference, that was a conversation that happened years ago.

btw: Thank you for the nice welcome.

reply to post by kdog1982


Now I remember one of the main points. I recently posted this information elsewhere here at ATS on a different subject, but it is applicable here. I will re-post it as a quote.

1. Time is a substance, and a constant.

Time is treated in physics as if it was a physically flowing substance, when all evidence I have seen has shown it to be an effect. By effect, I mean that time is an abstract concept, which is observable as an effect of the motion of something else. Initially, our notion of time was based not upon a physical force, but ultimately is derived from the division of a day/night cycle, or more specifically the spin of the earth in relation to the sun. An hour was a fraction of a day, or 1/24th of a cycle. Now, our conception of time is based upon radioactive decay, which tends to be more precise. However, the modern system of reference is still ultimately based upon the original 24 hour cycle.

Both forms of measurement are based upon motion, and not upon the movement of a provable physical force.

This is demonstrable. Remove any form of reference, and time ceases to have any meaning for a human being, such as has been proved through time deprivation experiments. Minutes become indistinguishable from hours, seconds, or even days. Without motion (a form of change), time loses all meaning.

The concept of relative time 'speeding up' or 'slowing down' should be expected at this point, since motion can change due to circumstance or environment.

TIME, ITSELF, HAS NEVER BEEN A CONSTANT! (emphasis added) Time change in one frame does not affect time change in another. If the two frames become one, the separate frames must synchronize or one frame is being given preference over another. Examine Einstein's imaginative thought experiment of Earth and the ship.

One ship leaves planet earth at close to C, and sees time slow on earth. The people of Earth see time speed up on the ship. Both references are due to the motion of the photons transferring between each reference frame. The theory holds that if the ship returned to earth, the people on the ship would have stopped ageing, and the people of earth would have dramatically aged in comparison.

However, if the first conception is true then this conception I shall pose is true as well, for the same reason. If the ship turned and then accelerated back to earth, time on earth would seem to slow, and time on the ship would seem to speed up, and the people on earth would be exactly the same age as the people on the ship.

The truth of the matter is that time itself is relative, and has little meaning. It is a reference, a measuring tool, whose usability is limited to circumstance. Entropy (IE aging), is not dependent upon our perception of information based upon photons striking the rods and cone in our eyes.

The reason this relates, is that 'time' is not a 'stuff' which can be reversed. IE a person cannot reverse its flow, or flow backwards in it. The concept of the possibility is a mathematical illusion. (Possible to conjecture in a mathematical construct, but not possible in reality.)

I think 'time travel' is possible, but not with a 'machine'. By thinking in terms of a machine one is making a mistake, due to believing science and technology can solve all our answers with scientific/technological equipment and a misunderstanding of what 'time' and 'reality' is.

Personally I think time travel is/was invented and our timeline was altered around the year 2000, my reasoning is that reading Nostradamus and more specifically the last few chapters it seems all his accuracy went out the window quickly like someone intervened to stop it from happening..the Apocalypse that is.

The other interesting thing is our perception of time as one linear event after the other playing like a "tape" doesn't alter the fact all the information is/was already on the tape from the beginning. If this "cassette" is now being manipulated back before the "Now" who knows whats coming next ? not Nostradamus I can give you the tip.

Another interesting aside is one of the quatrains indicating that the Last Anti Christ would be born with 2 teeth in his throat and be born of questionable parentage, not to mention being a twin. Did someone travel back in time and kill him ? did we get the second twin in Obama ? Lots of questions to this very interesting subject.

Thanks OP! One of my favorite topics. I am an electrical engineer- doubt I can understand most of this but plan to read it nonetheless. I was wondering if there is a connection to
www.spacedaily.com...

Which came about around the time of the patent.
Only one I know who might be able to understand it is very hard to reach.

Not sure if anyone posted this? Same guy?
www.dailymail.co.uk...

reply to post by pauldude000



Something that maybe of interests to you............

www.thelivingmoon.com...

Peace,K

TechUnique
I have a personal way of time travelling..

Would be awesome if we did actually develop an efficiently working time machine. When I say awesome I do mean in the traditional sense. When you start stepping the game up with things like time travel you've gotta be a lot more careful with your toys.

At the moment, our present way + time travel could only equal to mayhem.

No doubt economic powers of some kind would have the stranglehold. Using the technology for economic, political and influential gain.

Well said. It would lead to world domination of a small group and the crushing of everyone else. Well, on a larger scale than is already in place...

kdog1982

Originally posted by Nightspore
The patent schematic doesn't just resemble the Titor schematics, it seems to be identical:
John Titor thread ATS
Not sure what to make of this. Perhaps the internet security specialist is having some fun with patents( and conspiracy theorists)? Or perhaps Marlin B. Pohlman has nothing to do with this? The patent date of application is 2004 - 7 years ago.

edit on 12-10-2011 by Nightspore because: additional thought

It is exactly the same.
Odd,isn't it.

You know, like others have said, the applicant may just be having fun with this and watching these forums for laughs. Or you could go full-on conspiracy (complete with the "guy with a retainer in" voice) and speculate that perhaps the arrest mentioned in one of the previous posts in this thread was him and was a total frame job to get him out of the public and accessible to "TPTB" to force him to build it for them.

-Foil hat firmly affixed to head-

BlackProjects
Not sure if anyone posted this? Same guy?
www.dailymail.co.uk...

One & the same.

Truth is often far stranger than fiction, huh?

Actually the "high-strangeness" factor with so many things associated with Titor gives one pause...

OldCorp
IDK if he's John Titor or not, but the possible connection is fascinating to speculate on. I have a problem with the patent claim though. I think that in order to patent something, it actually has to work. And unless this guy knows more than he's telling, there is no way to make it work until (according to the OP) someone can actually harness a singularity.

If we had that technology, we would be what Michio Kaku calls a Type 3 civilization, controlling the power of an entire galaxy ( I think that's Type 3, I don't remember exactly.) I do remember that he said we are currently a Type 0 civilization.

*Gee, since he made up the scale, you'd think he'd at least make us a Type 1 civilization.

I don't think it was either of these guys but there is a scientist that has proven it is possible. He did it in the lab but the trick is scaling it up and making it work with a biological which I a whole nother story.

The old timers in old Colorado Springs would tell stories that tesla had achieved teleportation and time travel. Of course this is all conjecture now and part of his missing, stolen work.

His vision of free energy for the earth will be more than a vision in the future.

The Bot