Mass Graves Discovered at Closed Mohawk Institute Residential School

reply to post by wayouttheredude


I've read the article. Nowhere does it say that bodies have been found - only that there is evidence that the land was backfilled at some point.

This is not a discovery of anything - it is a search.

reply to post by vox2442


Sorry you did not read the thread before commenting but there are several video documentaries linked in the thread and they have resources listed for more resources. Just try and catch up with the class and get back to us. Thanks for viewing and commenting.

Originally posted by seabhac-rua
reply to post by Veritas1

 

I don't think there's anything ritualistic about this. These poor kids were murdered because they were Native Americans, this is 'ethnic cleansing', it is about making sure that there are as few indigenous
people as possible to cause problems for the whites. All you have to do is go to a modern Lakota Sioux reservation and see the squalor and poverty some of these people endure. This form of genocide has been ongoing in the U.S. and Canada for the last couple of hundred years and more.

edit on 11-10-2011 by seabhac-rua because: (no reason given)

Exactly this

Its no secret tho's lands was stolen from the natives, the entire North & South American Continents are stolen including Australia, i think its likely these are just one of thousands & thousands & thousands of such mass graves completely covered up by the west over hundreds of years, how do you cover up secret on ONLY paper? burn them, easy, done, gone,

There are two continents worth of people missing i thinks its likely there was genocide on mass scales on both the North & South Americas, by Europeans along with black slaves, and from a much earlier time line just after the crusades, to many things don't add up & to many people are missing, just look at the populations of India & China and look how many Natives are in...

Australia
South America
North America

Where did they all go ?

reply to post by wayouttheredude


If your family has suffered from this then obviously you have an emotional attachment to what has occurred. No one is disputing that whatever has happened is a tragedy of some description - it is and whoever is responsible should be punished.

However, in order to blame the monarchy and the church of deliberate acts of genocide would require some proof. Until that is shown to be present then there is really no case to answer for either the crown or the church, rather the case would be answered by those responsible for the acts.

As an aside, when did Canada gain independence? That is a genuine question and one i am unsure as to the answer to but i believe it has a relevance. If independence was before the 1960's, then the crown really doesn't have a case to answer does it?

Originally posted by seabhac-rua
reply to post by Veritas1

 

I don't think there's anything ritualistic about this. These poor kids were murdered because they were Native Americans, this is 'ethnic cleansing', it is about making sure that there are as few indigenous
people as possible to cause problems for the whites. All you have to do is go to a modern Lakota Sioux reservation and see the squalor and poverty some of these people endure. This form of genocide has been ongoing in the U.S. and Canada for the last couple of hundred years and more.

edit on 11-10-2011 by seabhac-rua because: (no reason given)

I agree , infact , if this didnt happen , thered be no U.S and Canada, as fine and dandy as that would be , who would be there in their place ? the French.... thats who, so all Americans should think themselves lucky
and BTW - "whites" - is a racist remark in this world of political correctness

I'm no fan of the royal family, but seriously, what evidence is there that the queen made any native children kiss her feet and was responsible for their disappearance after luring them off on a picnic? On all her visits to Australia there are no pictures that I have ever seen of her making Aboriginal children kiss her feet. There is no doubt terrible things have been done in the disguise of religion and behind the walls of religious and state institutions, but let the investigaters finish their job and then go after those responsible (as far as is possible as most are likely long dead) so the poor victims are able to finally rest in peace.

Just to clear things up a litte the Europeans killing natives while breaking of from their government occurred in the seventeen hundreds. Roughly around 1860 they where done slaughtering the women and children and forcing the last of them onto reservations, that's when they started a little thing called The Cival War. Please keep the time frame correct

Originally posted by Amatoremsapeientiae
Just to clear things up a litte the Europeans killing natives while breaking of from their government occurred in the seventeen hundreds. Roughly around 1860 they where done slaughtering the women and children and forcing the last of them onto reservations, that's when they started a little thing called The Cival War. Please keep the time frame correct

I'm not sure if I entirely understand what you're saying here - my history may be a little rusty. Are you saying the Europeans were killing natives from the 1700s up until the 1860s at which point they (the Europeans) started The American Civil War?

Originally posted by BRITWARRIOR

Originally posted by seabhac-rua
reply to post by Veritas1

 

I don't think there's anything ritualistic about this. These poor kids were murdered because they were Native Americans, this is 'ethnic cleansing', it is about making sure that there are as few indigenous
people as possible to cause problems for the whites. All you have to do is go to a modern Lakota Sioux reservation and see the squalor and poverty some of these people endure. This form of genocide has been ongoing in the U.S. and Canada for the last couple of hundred years and more.

edit on 11-10-2011 by seabhac-rua because: (no reason given)

Exactly this

Its no secret tho's lands was stolen from the natives, the entire North & South American Continents are stolen including Australia, i think its likely these are just one of thousands & thousands & thousands of such mass graves completely covered up by the west over hundreds of years, how do you cover up secret on ONLY paper? burn them, easy, done, gone,

There are two continents worth of people missing i thinks its likely there was genocide on mass scales on both the North & South Americas, by Europeans along with black slaves, and from a much earlier time line just after the crusades, to many things don't add up & to many people are missing, just look at the populations of India & China and look how many Natives are in...

Australia
South America
North America

Where did they all go ?

That's right. Somewhere in university I once saw a statistic claiming that North America had upwards of 150 million aboriginals before Europeans came. When the Europeans engaged in assimilation/genocide efforts, the aboriginal population dropped to around 15 million in a decade. Turns out biological warfare is supereffective when you unleash a local plague on a foreign, isolated population.

[wish I could get a good source on pre-European population levels in North America though ]

Of course, it was never Native land. To the moral supremacy of aboriginals, they all know that nature is a higher order to which we all simply rent our bodies from. They actually respected the land and managed to use it for their own survival without destroying it for profit and ecological domination.

You know, there is a lot of dirt on the British Royal Family.

Princess Margaret (she liked to party):


Prince John (severe epileptic, hidden from view)


Two of the Queen Elizabeth's cousins were thought to be mentally impaired. They were unsuitable for the royals and were listed as dead in Burke's peerage when they were teens. They were shipped away to an asylum and their family, the Queen and Queen Mother, never once visited them.

P.S. Try finding an image of either Katherine Bowes-Lyon and Nerissa Bowes-Lyon.

The Queen Mum was apparently a vicious, spiteful, selfish, rascist, drunk, gambler.


BUT, if you are trying to tell me Queen Elizabeth ritually killed 10 aboriginal children.... erm... no. That is an insane suggestion.

Originally posted by wayouttheredude
reply to post by vox2442

 

You have not scratched the surface of this story very hard I think. You might want to watch both of the videos and read the article linked in this thread and come back and restate your more informed position then.

You may want to actually consider if any facts exist at all.

Bodies have been identified (allegedly) in a mass grave at a site that has been a populated area for around 150 years at least. The area like many others has suffered poverty in the past to such a state that mortality rates among the young would have been high if they matched to global levels.

Bodies have not been exhumed so cannot be aged, race confirmed, cause of death identified, or if the bodies all belong to roughly the same time period.

The ridiculous videos attempt to implicate the Queen and a future pope (yeah, Church of England and the Catholic Church got along so well at the time didn't they?) in a mass murder with no - and I really mean no - evidence whatsoever. I really mean not a shred of a fact that actually backs up one claim that is made, not one. A little thing like the Queens engagement list for the year.

For the love of anything sensible, the article even claims that Pope Benedict was the head of the Church of England!!!!

A fact would be nice - a piece of proof would also be nice and the alleged testimony of an alleged dead person just doesn't cut it.

reply to post by something wicked


@ Something Wicked

I said much the same thing a few pages back. At the time I suggested it was a rather lazy analysis to just take this at face value and nothing has been posted since to change my mind.

There's a Conspiracy story saying Jacque Cousteau dove to the bottom of Lake Tahoe.

Supposedly when he came up he said "The World is not ready to see what's down there".

My theory is the bottom of Lake Tahoe preserved the bodies of either thousands of dead Indians the US Army killed and threw in there.....or thousands of dead Chinese who built much up in America as laborers and were hosed out of paychecks.

There's more mass graves in North America. Anybody got some free time to dive to the bottom of Lake Tahoe?

Originally posted by jezp42
reply to post by something wicked

 

@ Something Wicked

I said much the same thing a few pages back. At the time I suggested it was a rather lazy analysis to just take this at face value and nothing has been posted since to change my mind.

Hi jezp42, thanks for responding. I did see your post and I have posted something similar to my latest post earlier in the thread. It's just a shame to me at least that some people will believe the sensational without any facts whatsoever.

reply to post by ReptileRipper

Political correctness is a symptom of hypocrisy, and as far as I am concerned if there wasn't an insult intended then none should be taken, and if anyone doesn't like that they can kiss my a**.

reply to post by something wicked


Why would you discount the hundreds of eye witness testimonies that have been collected by Kevin Annett as a lack of evidence? Eye witness testimony can get someone convicted of murder is most countries. They are digging for more hard evidence but the fact that the death rate on the schools was more than 50% should be a pretty good clue that there was a concerted effort by the church and state to eliminate these people.

I know it is a long one but you might want to review this video.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Tell me when you finish that you still do not think there is any evidence to support these conclusions.

Originally posted by wayouttheredude
reply to post by something wicked

 

Why would you discount the hundreds of eye witness testimonies that have been collected by Kevin Annett as a lack of evidence? Eye witness testimony can get someone convicted of murder is most countries. They are digging for more hard evidence but the fact that the death rate on the schools was more than 50% should be a pretty good clue that there was a concerted effort by the church and state to eliminate these people.

I know it is a long one but you might want to review this video.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Tell me when you finish that you still do not think there is any evidence to support these conclusions.

I've seen the video and it's a crock of crap. HUNDREDS of eye witnesses now? Hundreds of eye witnesses saw the Queen and that well known leader of the Church of England who by some strange event is now leader of the Catholic Church lure 10 children to their death? Where did these hundreds of people come from and why as there is no record whatsoever anywhere that such a visit took place?

How do you know the death rate was 50% higher if no bodies have been exhumed to find out when they died?

Best thing I can suggest is advice you will see a lot on ATS, keep an open mind but not so open your brains fall out. No, I don't think Kevin has much if any credibility and the people he says he represents also shun him. You believe because, well, that's up for you to think about.

And no, eye witness testimony is not enough to get someone convicted of murder if it can be proved beyond doubt the accused was not even in the same country at the time - sheesh, you really are a strange person.

Still waiting for those facts, 10 - 20 feet isn't a lot to actually dig through now is it?

reply to post by blah yada


Much agreed, Blah Yada. Unfortunately it seems the amount of obidients to these bags of slime far surpasses the numbers of us who see the truth.

reply to post by something wicked


I don't have any investment in this to care if you believe this story but I do believe it. So much so that I have to get my mind off of this for a while as it is damaging me psychically. I am certain that this incident is true and I also believe this is the MO of the Roman Empire and their proxy states like the British monarchy. Church and state both conspiring together to dominate the globe for hundreds of years. This is but one example in a long history of genocide and torture and indoctrination that continued up to the modern age.

Originally posted by wayouttheredude
reply to post by something wicked

 

I don't have any investment in this to care if you believe this story but I do believe it. So much so that I have to get my mind off of this for a while as it is damaging me psychically. I am certain that this incident is true and I also believe this is the MO of the Roman Empire and their proxy states like the British monarchy. Church and state both conspiring together to dominate the globe for hundreds of years. This is but one example in a long history of genocide and torture and indoctrination that continued up to the modern age.

Belief is a faith thing, knowledge is having facts to back it up.

You should learn to question more and not take someones word for granted. Why on earth do you think the Vatican holds power over a British monarchy that split with the Catholic Church as the national faith over 500 years ago? You really don't know do you apart from the conspiracy sites you visit that tell you that this is the case.

Again, enough with the 'belief', 'belief' will convict no one - facts, proof, evidence...... please.