OccupyBoston encampment threatened by RIOT police. NOW

reply to post by Observer99


It is part of the agenda. The 1% elite that the 99%ers are supposed to be opposing are socialists who orchestrated this. It's the real deal. Yet the 99%ers are playing right into it.

Originally posted by alfa1

Originally posted by silent thunder
These folks need to decide if they are protestors or revolutionaries.
If they are protestors, operating within the law, .

They've decided.
They decide that they're protesters, and because of that the laws dont apply to them, they can break any they feel like, and if they get arrested for it then it is "unconstitutional".

Edit - and I'm serious about that.
Its somethiung to do with what happens to peoples brains when they start assembling in large groups. NONE of those protesters would have slept in that park a week ago, and I suspect if asked why, one of the answers would be (as well as safety) that they were not allowed to.
Now, because theres a lot of them, they feel they can.

You see this kind of thing with protests all over the world, people doing things they know are illegal, but as if by magic they just dont care about that anymore.

edit on 11-10-2011 by alfa1 because: (no reason given)

Obviously though. It's a matter of strength in numbers. What's the point of sitting in the middle of the street by myself and trying to get a message across? There's no point, because no one will take you seriously. If solidarity and standing your ground in order to make your presence known is your concern, then you have a reason to break a local ordinance to get that point across.

Originally posted by thehoneycomb
It is part of the agenda. The 1% elite that the 99%ers are supposed to be opposing are socialists who orchestrated this. It's the real deal. Yet the 99%ers are playing right into it.

This is fascinating and has my head spinning. I don't doubt it, but can you provide any proof or evidence?

So here are the overview, timeline and agenda as I currently understand them. LMK if I have it right:

- Illuminati at the highest levels of society (origin unknown) control the central bank of England
- Illuminati try to make a central bank in the US, are stopped, try again, succeed and usher in the Fed
- Various politicians killed for opposing the Fed and advocating a return to a gold-backed currency, most notably JFK

Fast forward to 2011. Dollar and world economy finally collapsing. But why would they want to kill their own system of monetary oppression? Answer - how much money do you really need? At some point it is not about money but about power and control. THEY already control all of the corporations, governments, media, own most of the valuable real assets (gold, food and water sources) so will feel free to destroy our paper currency, leaving us holding the bag.

The central banking scheme now complete to their satisfaction, they now have enough money, power and control to usher in the final phase of freedom's destruction: to get everyone chipped and controlled by the one world government.

See, I had thought you would buy and sell with the chip. Maybe you will to an extent, but in communist terms, your "daily necessities" could also be provided via accessing the system with the chip.

And then when you oppose the powerful, they will simply turn off your chip.

So here are my current thoughts on the matter, with respect to the Boston and other OWS protests:

- It is clear that our corporate and banking systems were corrupt. Whether or not that corruption and pillaging of the people was orchestrated for a NWO purpose, or just the workings of greedy capitalists, the system was totally corrupt. That had to be responded to at some point.
- Is it even possible for the few remaining enlightened citizens, who believe in freedom and proper capitalism, to get rid of corporatism and stop the NWO agenda of the push toward a communist one-world government? Before you answer, remember how ignorant most people are of the higher powers at work, and how deep the corruption of the media is. Is there even any chance?

Originally posted by Resonant
If solidarity and standing your ground in order to make your presence known is your concern, then you have a reason to break a local ordinance to get that point across.

Oh I absolutely agree with that.
What I'm objecting to is the defenders who leap in and say that they arent breaking any law at all because of some constitutional right.

They are breaking laws. And as in the case of Egypt, Bahrain, Syria, Tunisia etc... so were/are they. But its tradeoff that has to be calculated by each individual protester. "Is the risk of being punished for breaking the law more or less than the gain resulting from changes due to my protest?"
Lots of people around the world believe the tradeoff is indeed worth it.

But the idea that "I'm in a protest group, so I therefore cannot be breaking any law" is just dumb.

I am in full support of the Occupy Movement however, what happened in Boston last night was not the fault of the police. I have a friend that's a cop and he's been on detail where they are camping out. So far the campers have been in good rapport with the BPD, they have been allowed (without permit) to stay at the "Greenway" except for certain sections of it where hundreds of thousands of dollars in donations were just invested. Police warned people to stay out of there, protesters and organizers warned people not to go there and people went anyway. Our local news coverage shows people being very confrontational with officers and witnesses say police were too rough. Well, police don't have to arrest you nicely, they just can't beat the crap out of you.

This is sad to me, I don't want to see this happen. I don't know if it's "infiltrators" trying to bring bad press to the movement or if it's just a bunch of people jumping on a bandwagon. There's enough generalizations being thrown at the movement that I hope the protesters address this in their general assemblies and be clear that peacefulness and lawfulness are the only way to go.

This is great, looks like the real silent majority has had enough of the 1% communist anarchists and their sheeple followers who think they can do whatever they want.

IMO, these communist agitators went over the edge when they announced they were going to coordinate random lynchings by going to random peoples houses that they deemed "rich" to attack them.

i thought it was occupy boson not riot boston?

why riot police?


How about we send down some HAZMAT suited up soldiers, you know, just encase....

reply to post by iunlimited491


People are allowed the freedom of assembly by the constitution, it is terrible that these non-violent protesters are being arrested. Anyone who agrees with the police in this situation are taking a position against themselves, as the police are obviously doing the bidding of those in power and not the people. However, I suppose there might have been circumstances I'm not aware of...

No, not really. Just read the rest of this thread. Thanks to the Australian for posting the municipal codes, though.

By the way, the live feeds are down.

reply to post by darkbake


Like I said, I support the movement but theres a right and wrong way to do things. The police were right they warned people not to go to that particular area, the organizers warned them too and they went anyway. People absolutely do have the right to assemble, but they do not have the right to be destructive in doing so and unfortunately a large group of people camping is going to do damage to their surroundings. Let's not forget that people also have the right to a nice park to walk through.

There's some fine lines that do not need to be crossed. Don't trample the rights of others in order to get yours.

Originally posted by iunlimited491
OccupyBoston encampment surrounded on all sides by fully geared RIOT police.

Spread this feed.

www.livestream.com...

For more information, also visit:

www.livestream.com...

edit on 11-10-2011 by iunlimited491 because: (no reason given)

From what I understand, the protesters who were arrested last night, (in a failed attempt to shut them down), will be rejoining the remaining protesters this afternoon, or this evening.
Another good feed for the OCCUPY BOSTON movement can be found here:

They've Busted Up Boston

reply to post by Observer99


On many of your points you are correct. I can see the wheels spinning in your head. You are about to understand the bigger picture, I can help. Yet you are missing something.

Who controls the media and the corporations that are in question? It is the labor unions and who controls the labor unions? Democratic Socialists.

Now what you said about the illuminatti, who are the 1% who are the elite that should be in question?
They are the Rockefellers and Rothschilds.
Both are socialists, not capitalists and this is important to remember for later because it is not the greed of capitalism it is the corruption of socialism in America.

You only have to look to history to find the rest of the answers you seek. Look at any country who has fallen to communism in the past or specifically look up Bolshevik in a google search and research that. It was the labor unions and the democratic socialists who put the strangle hold on the nations economies that made these countries in history fall to communism, not greedy capitalists.

Warren Buffet is also a socialists as well as George Soros. George Soros was actually a hungarian Jew who actually falsified documents and helped the Nazis arrest jews and throw them into the camps to protect himself. Warren Buffet is the self described Osama Bin Laden of capitalism, well I think you get my drift. The 99% are simply targeting the wrong people, it was not wall street.

My guess is if the 99% get their way, they would modify the way we do business so that would give labor unions complete control and then there would be complete control by the democratic socialists within our government over business and the media.

So do the math, and yes this could lead to a global currency if they get their way.

Remember to keep your eye on the real problem, do not let these shills try to derail what is truly the problem.

The Hidden Aristocratic government

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-Kdial1

Well, I will say right now that these so called 99% don't speak for me. I would rather trust the 1% than a bunch of communist malcontents that would align with any union. Unions are bad news for the economy. The whole OWS and affiliates are just a ploy to stir up the base by Odumbo and his crew. The infrastructure jobs they scream about are targeted at unions and probably require $20/hour to flag traffic.

I would like to see a fair and balanced poll showing the real, if any, support of these idiots.

You know how I know every last one of you don't know what you're talking about?? If FOX news hadn't reintroduced the term communist about 4 years ago you wouldn't even be using it. Just like you think the OWS movement has an agenda YOU have an agenda. How about instead of complaining about the people who are fighting for the last few remnants of freedom you JOIN them and try to steer them in a direction YOU see fit. If not how about you keep it to yourself?

Originally posted by Observer99
What is this GARBAGE??

I watched the livestream feed for a while. Good firsthand info. Then, when the video stream cuts out, we have to watch the Zeitgeist video which promotes communism and a one-world government!!

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE??

They're banning people from the chat for discussing political beliefs while RAMMING theirs down our throats. I'm not saying there aren't interesting points about automation killing jobs, but the conclusion that "money is not a necessary incentive" is NOT substantiated, is illogical, and even if it WERE correct, has NO BUSINESS being shoved down the throats of people looking for live info on the protests!

Is this communist garbage being pushed by really, really stupid people, or is it all part of the elite's agenda?

I'm thinking the latter. Things rarely happen by accident. If that is the case, the elite may be in control of the livestream. Keep that in mind while you're there.

Zeitgeist doesn't promote communism and a one world government. Lol.
Also, they are kicking people for political crap because ITS NOT ABOUT POLITICAL IDEOLOGIES. Period. Its one of the rules, no religious or political debate, because its irrelevant. And they are not shoving anything down your throats in the least, its a chat room, you pay attention to the info you need. Chances are you ran into some trolls. Lots of those around eh

Boston has a revolutionary tradition.
It just might confirm it.

I love the diversity of people attending in these links, I cant help wondering how this looks from the perspective of people outside the country?

Have we seen any instigators yet? You those that get sent in to cause disruption and violence?

Originally posted by Observer99

Is this communist garbage being pushed by really, really stupid people, or is it all part of the elite's agenda?

It's obviously part of an agenda and has been for many decades now. One of its leaders, Van Jones was a Czar in the Obama White House in fact. He makes no secret of who he is or what he wants, which is the overthrow of Democracy with he and his being in charge as Dictators.

The plan is in print in a number of books and a copy of its goals was even submitted in Congress to the record in 1963. Obama taught Alinsky in school to indoctrinate children.

The goals as submitted to Congress:
1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.

6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.

7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.

8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.

9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.

10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.

11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)

12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.

13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.

14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems.

43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.

44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.

45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.

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Ran out of space

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

The above is the most important and we are seeing it play out right now. Sadly the kids don't seem aware they have been brainwashed and are pawns.

I'm just curious?

How many of you claiming police brutality are old enough to remember the beating of Rodney King?
That was police brutality. What happened in Boston was nothing more then some folks resisting arrest. You cry about it all you want, but sorry, this was not a case of police brutality...and by the way I am not saying that police brutality doesn't exist I am just saying that this does not even come close.

Oh and seeing a video on YouTube doesn't count. If you were alive and remember it, that does.