For those of you (bottom feeders) who would pay for a prostitute.

For all of who support paying for sex. You need help. The long term psychological damage done to the women involved doesn't matter right? Forced into submission and aggressively raped for a fee. The orgasm is a powerful energy source that is unfortunately abused in our modern culture.

The ancients used to believe the Ankh was the secret to eternal life. Im not talking about a physical tool but an energetic one. They would use this tool to Ankh sexual energy. This could be a huge topic on its own (like how energy travels up and down the body through a vertical tube between five energy channels that counter rotate as they extend through the body i.e. chakra) but what the Egyptians knew is that when you have an orgasm a very large amount of energy bursts from your root chakra all the way up your spine to the top of your head where it would be released. What the Egyptians would do, is when the spiral of energy hit their heart chakra they would ankh the energy out of the back of their body and over their head and back into their body where they would retain a massive energy boost. In other words if you take a tuning fork and hit it, it will reverberate for a certain amount of time, if you attach and ankh to it, it will resonate at least 3x's longer. They were doing this with their bodies!



as far as decriminalizing prostitution.. I believe in liberty.

I think prostitution is unnatural and unhealthy.

I think people learn easily with facts and statistics so here are a few.
SexTrafficking: Facts & Figures
 The World Revolution & The Protection Project
The Protection Project
Sex Trafficking: Facts & Figures
– The United Nations estimates that 700,000 to 4 million women children are trafficked around the world for purposes of forced prostitution, labor and other forms of exploitation every year. Trafficking is estimated to be a $7 billion dollar annual business.
– Victims of trafficking are subject to gross human rights violations including, rape, torture, forced abortions, starvation, and threats of torturing or murdering family members.
– Nearly every country is involved in the web of trafficking activities, either as a country of origin, destination or transit. Countries of destination include Australia, Brazil, Cambodia, France, India, Israel, Japan, The Netherlands, Nigeria, Saudi Arabia, United Kingdom, United Arab Emirates, and the United States.
– Traffickers recruit women and children through deceptive means including falsified employment advertisements for domestic workers, waitresses and other low-skilled work. Traffickers include those involved in highly sophisticated networks of organized crime and may be as close to home as a relative to the victim.
Women And War
– In August 2001, soldiers with the United Nations peacekeeping mission in Eritrea were purchasing ten-year-old girls for sex in local hotels.
– Before the arrival of 15,000 UN troops in Cambodia in 1991, there were an estimated 1,000 prostitutes in the capital. Currently, Cambodia’s illegal sex trade generates $500 million a year. No less than 55,000 women and children are sex slaves in Cambodia, 35 percent of which are younger than 18 years of age.
– Over 5,000 women and children have been trafficked from the Philippines, Russia and Eastern Europe and are forced into prostitution in bars servicing the U.S. Military in South Korea
Who Are The Traffickers?
– Traffickers are … members of highly sophisticated networks of organized crime. Ukrainian officials uncovered and detained a criminal group in the city of Dnipropetrovsk, which trafficked Ukrainian girls and women to the United Arab Emirates. They made $2,000 on each girl forced into prostitution. This gang managed to traffic more than 15 Ukrainian young women aged between 16 and 30 to the United Arab Emirates.
– Traffickers are … family members and friends of the trafficking victim. A six-year-old boy, Mohammad Mamun, was taken from his poor Bangladeshi parents by a neighbor, and ended up in a foreign desert land being exploited as a camel jockey. Mamun is one of hundreds of young Bangladeshi boys who are trafficked into the United Arab Emirates (UAE) either after being abducted or sold by impoverished parents to human traffickers.
– Victims of trafficking are later used to traffic other women and children. Traffickers from Benin see themselves as helping the home community–facilitators for families looking for some extra income. One trafficker commented, “Every girl who travels and who doesn’t get deported is a potential sponsor for more.”
The Pay Off: Trafficking and Corruption
– Allegations have been brought against top Montenegrin government officials for their complicity in the forced prostitution, illegal detention, rape and torture of a 28-year old Moldovan woman, Svetlana. Six high-ranking government officials, and the country’s Deputy State Prosecutor, Zoran Piperovic, were arrested in December 2002 after Svetlana identified to the police names of traffickers, clients, and details of the nightclubs and cafes where the incidents took place. She has also testified that she had been routinely beaten, drugged, and had been returned by the police upon trying to escape on several occasions. Although the government has assured that the case will be fully investigated, all the detained officials have been since released from custody. Svetlana herself is being held under protection in a western European country.
– Victims of trafficking are afraid to testify or contact law enforcement due to their complicity with traffickers and pimps. In Israel, the Hotline for Migrant Workers made an appeal on behalf of three women who had testified that the same men that arrested them, had been clients at the brothel from which they were detained. In March 2002, a policeman charged with the buying of a trafficked woman and tipping brothel owners of police raids was sentenced to only six months of community service.
– In interviews carried out for an International Organization of Migration report, 10% of the women who had been trafficked to Albania stated that law enforcement officials had directly participated in the trafficking process.
Children Are Not Protected
– Children from Pakistan and Bangladesh are kidnapped or sold by their parents to traffickers who take them to Persian Gulf States including the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia, to work as camel jockeys. These children 3 to 7 years of age and are malnourished to keep their weight below 35 pounds. They suffer physical abuse from the traffickers and work all day training camels. Many of these children suffer extreme injuries or death from falling off camels during the races.
– Child victims of trafficking are very vulnerable to HIV/AIDS. Misconceptions that having sex with a virgin can cure HIV/AIDS have fueled an increased demand for child prostitutes.
– Girls from 15 to 17 years of age are trafficked from Thailand and Taiwan to South Africa. Traffickers recruited these girls to work as waitresses or domestic workers. Once they arrive in South Africa they are forced into prostitution.

Forced prostitution isn't the same as normal prostitution. You think the girls down at the bunny ranch are forced into that work?

reply to post by knightsofcydonia


Its not your body so its not your choice..Simple as that
If there is consent then theres nothing wrong
Plus i think the effects of our societys views on relationships is much more damaging then the worlds oldest industry.
Its more damaging how women expect men to act based on what the media tells them and how men are taught to lust over women.

If men and women could accpet sex as a normal thing which it is
then we would have a much better world

What an ignorant post.

You do not believe in liberty, whatever you may claim.

Prostitutes are people in their own right and should not be judged by other people.

Of course I am against forced prostitution - that is not what I am addressing here.

People live their lives in whatever way they can.

Not sure how prostitution has personally affected your life but you come across
as someone who obviously has an axe to grind and are in no way able to entertain ANY other ideas than your own, so why are you starting this thread?

What was your goal supposed to be?
What were you hoping to gain from this thread if I may ask?

Originally posted by NoClue206
Forced prostitution isn't the same as normal prostitution. You think the girls down at the bunny ranch are forced into that work?

No, but you think there is nothing wrong with those women? I mean you would say that a healthy, active, accomplished individual would at any point in their life need to pursue prostitution for no good reason? I guarantee all of them had some traumatic event during childhood, or some experienced some abnormal stresses throughout adolescence, or in general would tell you that they are only in it for the benjamins.

My experience as a man is that you have to pay for sex in one way or another.
Let people do what they want and they will be better people.

Originally posted by knightsofcydonia

Originally posted by NoClue206
Forced prostitution isn't the same as normal prostitution. You think the girls down at the bunny ranch are forced into that work?

No, but you think there is nothing wrong with those women? I mean you would say that a healthy, active, accomplished individual would at any point in their life need to pursue prostitution for no good reason? I guarantee all of them had some traumatic event during childhood, or some experienced some abnormal stresses throughout adolescence, or in general would tell you that they are only in it for the benjamins.

i think there is nothing more wrong with them then you!
would i say? its a fact, all different kinds of people get into it
i guarantee for people like you to go against the freedom of another person, you must of had something happen to you..or your life was so boring that you need to force your opinions on others so that you feel accomplished

dont get me wrong. forced prostitution is despicable
but if they want to do it then you cant stop them, no one can

and legalizing it would help the people your worrying about!

Before making broad statements like

For all of who support paying for sex. You need help.

you should perhaps distinguish between forced prostitution and voluntary prostitution.

I completely agree that selling women and children for sex, and forced sex is dispicable, however
women who wish to accept payment for their favours of their own free will is another story altogether.

Prostitution has it's place in society as long as it is the free choice of the persons involved, any monies go to the prostitute and not a pimp and is medically regulated.

Is it not better for a man to hire a woman to relieve his sexually frustration and pent up energy, thereby hurting no one and providing an income to someone happy and willing to do it, than to have his frustrations build to such extremes that he grabs and rapes some innocent girl/boy.

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Originally posted by choppedbrisket
My experience as a man is that you have to pay for sex in one way or another.
Let people do what they want and they will be better people.

very true.

Originally posted by knightsofcydonia

Originally posted by NoClue206
Forced prostitution isn't the same as normal prostitution. You think the girls down at the bunny ranch are forced into that work?

No, but you think there is nothing wrong with those women? I mean you would say that a healthy, active, accomplished individual would at any point in their life need to pursue prostitution for no good reason? I guarantee all of them had some traumatic event during childhood, or some experienced some abnormal stresses throughout adolescence, or in general would tell you that they are only in it for the benjamins.

Maybe some women actually like sex. And maybe they like getting payed buckets of money for it even more. Maybe sex isn't some dirty, ugly thing no matter what ridiculous belief system you've been indoctrinated into.

Originally posted by knightsofcydonia

Originally posted by choppedbrisket
My experience as a man is that you have to pay for sex in one way or another.
Let people do what they want and they will be better people.

very true.

haha are you admiting to paying for sex?

reply to post by knightsofcydonia

I think prostitution is unnatural and unhealthy.

Wearing pants isn't natural either, going to work, going to school, driving a car, none of those are natural. Our society is artificial and much of what we do, much of what we are, is a product of being the first species to essentially domesticate ourselves. Societal conditioning is what usually determines the norm, nature very rarely has anything to do with it.

Most of what you have to say applies primarily to forced prostitution, to women who are coerced into it. One of the advantages to legalizing prostitution is that it could, as an industry, be regulated. If prostitutes were given regular mental and physical health screenings and good wages and benefits would you still be against it? I'm against prostitution as it currently exists but at the same time the logic of it doesn't make sense. Our country begs you to sign up to fight in wars that end in horror and bloodshed, that's considered legal, but sex for money is somehow worse than getting your legs blown off by an IED? Soldiers come back from war physically and mentally scarred don't they? And they are virtually enslaved by their superiors aren't they?

If legalized and properly regulated with the health and well being of the employees in mind prostitution wouldn't be such a bad thing but as it exists now, yeah, its ugly.

reply to post by Screwed



i feel sorry for people who have to pay for sex...
my goal was to create discussion.

Originally posted by PennyQ

Is it not better for a man to hire a woman to relieve his sexually frustration and pent up energy, thereby hurting no one and providing an income to someone happy and willing to do it, than to have his frustrations build to such extremes that he grabs and rapes some innocent girl/boy.

Are you saying prostitution is just a substitute for rape? Women don't exist solely to cater to the sexual needs of men. There wouldn't be so much built up sexual frustration if we didn't live in an oversexualized society. A man who pays for a prostitute that will do whatever he says is not in anyway curing him of his 'sexual frustration'. He will then desire this more and more and expect women to perform any sexual deed at the flash of a dollar, like trained dogs. I really don't want the status of women to be reduced to such a thing, although we're almost there anyway.
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Funny how one of the world's oldest professions is "unnatural".

It's legal where I live, nobody complains, nobody makes a big deal about it either. It's their choice to become a prostitute and subject themselves to weekly STD tests and whatnot. And because of that, in the counties where it is legal, you don't see disease riddled hookers on the streets.

Just my $0.02

Originally posted by dainoyfb

Originally posted by knightsofcydonia

Originally posted by NoClue206


Maybe some women actually like sex. And maybe they like getting payed buckets of money for it even more. Maybe sex isn't some dirty, ugly thing no matter what ridiculous belief system you've been indoctrinated into.

I can see this is the beginning of the end for this discussion! ha

Originally posted by knightsofcydonia
reply to post by Screwed

 

i feel sorry for people who have to pay for sex...
my goal was to create discussion.

edit on 10-10-2011 by knightsofcydonia because: (no reason given)

I don't recal the last time name calling (Bottom Feeders) was used as a tool to evoke productive discussion.

Originally posted by dainoyfb

Maybe sex isn't some dirty, ugly thing no matter what ridiculous belief system you've been indoctrinated into.

It's people with your mindset that treat sex as if it's something dirty...as if it's a mere commodity that shallow, materialistic women sell to disgusting, low-life men. No value there.

Originally posted by Charmed707

Originally posted by PennyQ

Is it not better for a man to hire a woman to relieve his sexually frustration and pent up energy, thereby hurting no one and providing an income to someone happy and willing to do it, than to have his frustrations build to such extremes that he grabs and rapes some innocent girl/boy.

Are you saying prostitution is just a substitute for rape? Women don't exist solely to cater to the sexual needs of men. There wouldn't be so much built up sexual frustration if we didn't live in an oversexualized society. A man who pays for a prostitute that will do whatever he says is not in anyway curing him of his 'sexual frustration'. He will then desire this more and more and expect women to perform any sexual deed at the flash of a dollar, like trained dogs. I really don't want the status of women to be reduced to such a thing, although we're almost there anyway. people commit crimes like rape from problems that come from confusion.
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well on an ecological level thats exactly what women are there for, and thats what sex is an ecological, natural process..not a social one
you call it an oversexualized society and your right in a sense but wrong in your direction.the problem comes when children are taught that sex is naughty, we need to be accepting of sex..talking about it a lot makes no differnce..if people could learn to accept what they are then you wouldnt see a build up of sexual frustration

sorry but sex is what men and women are. you cant avoid it, and if someone wants to profit from it more power to them