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Originally posted by mockrock
Since we only have NASA to trust to confirm or rule out Nibiru, we are never going to know either way..
Originally posted by mockrock
It worries me that the Elenin & YU55 was used to stop us discussing Nibiru.
The problem is Nibiru has been deliberately discredited as wacko, so astronomers and researchers are cautious discussing it. It is very unhelpful just to label things Wacko.. this is an open-minded forum and surely the ideal place to discuss the evidence around Nibiru?
But I will say YU55 and Elenin was all part of a plan designed to make it impossible to talk about any space threats.. it is now impossible to even discuss them with someone dismissing it as Elenin YU55 nonsense..
Only ignorant people would call it a "hoax". Nibiru does not fit the definition of a hoax. Faking the Moon landings is a hoax.
If someone were to produce evidence of Nibiru that was fake, that would be a hoax.
2hoax noun
1
: an act intended to trick or dupe : imposture
2
: something accepted or established by fraud or fabrication
Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by Mercurio
Only ignorant people would call it a "hoax". Nibiru does not fit the definition of a hoax. Faking the Moon landings is a hoax.
If someone were to produce evidence of Nibiru that was fake, that would be a hoax.
2hoax noun
1
: an act intended to trick or dupe : imposture
2
: something accepted or established by fraud or fabrication
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Sitchin did not know how to read Sumerian; everything he wrote in his books is pure fiction, yet he presented it as fact. That is imposture. Since then, Nibiru cultists have been fabricating videos purporting to be of Nibiru. Nibiru fits the description of a hoax perfectly. You also have the burden of proof wrong. It is up to the people who claim that Nibiru exists to provide evidence for it. None has ever been presented that holds up to any scrutiny. On the other hand, the Moon landings were meticulously documented and were observed by millions. They are the exact opposite of a hoax.
None of us has NASA's billion dollar budget to argue our case.. it pays to promote Apollo.
Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by mockrock
None of us has NASA's billion dollar budget to argue our case.. it pays to promote Apollo.
It's not a question of money, it's a question of investigative skill. Woodward and Bernstein were making $40 a day, yet they took down an American President.
America is now spending huge sums to deploy the massive The South Pole Telescope (SPT) in Antarctica. The final installation will be the size of a mini-mall and will require a massive C-130 airlift effort to transport pre-assembled modules and a large staff to the most desolate, inhospitable and inaccessible region of the world. Why? Because Planet X / Nibiru was first sighted in 1983 and this discovery spurred the USA to build the SPT — humanity's new Planet X tracker.
Only ignorant people would call it a "hoax". Nibiru does not fit the definition of a hoax. Faking the Moon landings is a hoax.
None of us has NASA's billion dollar budget to argue our case.. it pays to promote Apollo.
You don't understand how things work.. /quote]
I would say that about anyone that suggests that amateur astronomers from across the globe are unable to detect the presence of a planet sized object in the solar system within 70AU. Amateurs have access to equipment undreamed of 100 years ago. Amateurs can find Pluto. Amateurs have been asked by NASA to assist in tracking NEOs. Amateurs have detected impacts on Jupiter. An amateur was the first to detect the missing cloud band on Jupiter.
I just wanted to reiterate what was said back in 1983,
So mysterious is the object that astronomers do not know if it is a planet, a giant comet, a nearby “protostar” that never got hot enough to become a star, a distant galaxy so young that it is still in the process of forming its first stars or a galaxy so shrouded in dust that none of the light cast by its stars ever gets through.
“All I can tell you is that we don’t know what it is,” Dr. Gerry Neugebauer, IRAS chief scientist for California’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory and director of the Palomar Observatory for the California Institute of Technology, said in an interview
“If it is really that close, it would be a part of our solar system,” said Dr. James Houck of Cornell University’s Center for Radio Physics and Space Research and a member of the IRAS science team. “If it is that close, I don’t know how the world’s planetary scientists would even begin to classify it.”