Stop Your Steve Jobs lies!! Dr. Mark Dean Invented the PC And He's A Black Man (can it be true??)

Originally posted by Alxandro
No disrespect to Dean but since the race card has been brought up, I need to ask,

I wonder how many times was he called an Uncle Tom while working hard as a student?
How many times was he accused of not keeping real?

One last question regarding the twinkle in his eye,
... is he gay?

Excellent point (except for the gay quote, uncalled for). Bill Cosby was called a house 'n-word' and uncle tom for calling blacks out on not taking responsibility for themselves. That kind of relates to this thread... www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by kimish
reply to post by Chai_An

 

Exactly, that's why the only reason I've heard of the man is because the OP brought him up.

second line.

So you learned about somebody tonight but you were offended by how he was presented to you is that what you're saying?

Originally posted by Chai_An

Originally posted by kimish
reply to post by Chai_An

 

Where are the other contributors kudos? Why him, because he's black? Take a minute and marinate on that.

The title of the thread didn't bother me one bit, it was the very last sentence of the OP. I've learned to read between the lines, so to speak.

Don't make this any more of a race issue than you already have.

edit on 5-10-2011 by kimish because: (no reason given)

Sadly but yes because he's black and we live in a society that have the masses thinking one group people built and know everything which is hardly realistic. Why does the OP last sentence bother you?

It bothers me because he brought race into the equation. Why couldn't it have been just a "man" that didn't get recognition? Instead, It was a BLACK man that didn't get recognition. That is why it bothered me, because it was racial, not racist, but racial. Please don't get the two confused.

Originally posted by Chai_An

Originally posted by kimish
reply to post by Chai_An

 

Exactly, that's why the only reason I've heard of the man is because the OP brought him up.

second line.

So you learned about somebody tonight but you were offended by how he was presented to you is that what you're saying?

What hurt you soo much that you are attacking me? I was offended because the topic was "a black man didn't get props" not "a man didn't get props". Can you see the difference? Please tell me you can.

I am not racist but I absolutely hate when race is brought into the equation, it is unnecessary. Totally.

Originally posted by kimish

Originally posted by Alxandro
No disrespect to Dean but since the race card has been brought up, I need to ask,

I wonder how many times was he called an Uncle Tom while working hard as a student?
How many times was he accused of not keeping real?

One last question regarding the twinkle in his eye,
... is he gay?

Excellent point (except for the gay quote, uncalled for). Bill Cosby was called a house 'n-word' and uncle tom for calling blacks out on not taking responsibility for themselves. That kind of relates to this thread... www.abovetopsecret.com...

edit on 5-10-2011 by kimish because: (no reason given)

No it don't relate to this thread? How does anyone calling someone those names even relate to the discussion at hand? If another black person said something mean about this man it does not relegate his contributions to computer science to the junk pile. Caucasians never said anything negative about Mister Jobs, or Bill Gates? These two men were well liked by all white people? Really? If not did those other white people's comments diminish their contributions to computers? No. So what does Mister Dean sexuality or what other blacks may or may not have said about him have to do with his inventing a computer chip? Nothing.

reply to post by Chai_An


Evidently you only read and or hear what you want to. I don't approve of mister Gates because he is discriminatory. Read back to one of the posts I posted earlier and you will find the reason why.

I was against the gay slur, if you read my post and don't cherry pick what you want to read and or hear. I never even brought up the gay comment!

Let your emotions quell before posting again because emotions make us think irrationally. (please, take no offense to that)

Not only is Mark Dean being touted as being the inventor of the PC which has been proven wrong, people claim that he invented the microprocessor. Dean did nothing of the sort.

Who did invent the microprocessor? This goes back to the 60's 18 years before Dean went to work for IBM. There are at least 2 schools of thought on this.

It could be: Intel engineers Ted Hoff, Federico Faggin, and Stan Mazor in 1971. www.askthecomputertech.com...

or

Gilbert Hyatt www.time.com...
Gilbert proved to the U.S patent office that he had beaten Intel by 2 years and is now legally regarded as the true inventor of the microprocessor.

At this time in 1968 Dean would have only been 11 years old.

Originally posted by kimish

Originally posted by Chai_An

Originally posted by kimish
reply to post by Chai_An

 

Exactly, that's why the only reason I've heard of the man is because the OP brought him up.

second line.

So you learned about somebody tonight but you were offended by how he was presented to you is that what you're saying?

What hurt you soo much that you are attacking me? I was offended because the topic was "a black man didn't get props" not "a man didn't get props". Can you see the difference? Please tell me you can.

I am not racist but I absolutely hate when race is brought into the equation, it is unnecessary. Totally.

I'm not attacking you, I'm trying to understand what have you so offended about this man's race? He's a black man what's wrong with mentioning he's a black man, cos he is black?

Originally posted by Chai_An

Originally posted by kimish

Originally posted by Chai_An

Originally posted by kimish
reply to post by Chai_An

 

Exactly, that's why the only reason I've heard of the man is because the OP brought him up.

second line.

So you learned about somebody tonight but you were offended by how he was presented to you is that what you're saying?

What hurt you soo much that you are attacking me? I was offended because the topic was "a black man didn't get props" not "a man didn't get props". Can you see the difference? Please tell me you can.

I am not racist but I absolutely hate when race is brought into the equation, it is unnecessary. Totally.

I'm not attacking you, I'm trying to understand what have you so offended about this man's race? He's a black man what's wrong with mentioning he's a black man, cos he is black?

WOW!. I mentioned it before. I am offended because race was brought up to begin with.

marinate on that, sincerely.

How about "a MAN (discredit race, crede, ethnicity, religion, etc.) was not given credit for contributing to a major contribution to mankind. That is more like it.

Race need not be brought up. Period.

Originally posted by kimish
reply to post by Chai_An

 

Evidently you only read and or hear what you want to. I don't approve of mister Gates because he is discriminatory. Read back to one of the posts I posted earlier and you will find the reason why.

I was against the gay slur, if you read my post and don't cherry pick what you want to read and or hear. I never even brought up the gay comment!

Let your emotions quell before posting again because emotions make us think irrationally. (please, take no offense to that)

edit on 5-10-2011 by kimish because: (no reason given)

I never accused you of bringing up the gay comment, I was pointing out whatever people may or may not have said about Mister Dean is irrelevant to his accomplishments.

Originally posted by Chai_An

Originally posted by kimish
reply to post by Chai_An

 

Evidently you only read and or hear what you want to. I don't approve of mister Gates because he is discriminatory. Read back to one of the posts I posted earlier and you will find the reason why.

I was against the gay slur, if you read my post and don't cherry pick what you want to read and or hear. I never even brought up the gay comment!

Let your emotions quell before posting again because emotions make us think irrationally. (please, take no offense to that)

edit on 5-10-2011 by kimish because: (no reason given)

I never accused you of bringing up the gay comment, I was pointing out whatever people may or may not have said about Mister Dean is irrelevant to his accomplishments.

Ok, and a point I brought up earlier was that other people have made contributions that were just as important and they don't get recognition and the OP to bring Mr. Dean up and to make it a point to make his race known bothered me. Now do you see my issue? Why not a man was neglected of notoriety? But instead it was a black man. To me that is playing the race card. I see it daily and it disgusts me, for lack of a better term.

Originally posted by kimish

Originally posted by Chai_An

Originally posted by kimish

Originally posted by Chai_An

Originally posted by kimish
reply to post by Chai_An

 

Exactly, that's why the only reason I've heard of the man is because the OP brought him up.

second line.

So you learned about somebody tonight but you were offended by how he was presented to you is that what you're saying?

What hurt you soo much that you are attacking me? I was offended because the topic was "a black man didn't get props" not "a man didn't get props". Can you see the difference? Please tell me you can.

I am not racist but I absolutely hate when race is brought into the equation, it is unnecessary. Totally.

I'm not attacking you, I'm trying to understand what have you so offended about this man's race? He's a black man what's wrong with mentioning he's a black man, cos he is black?

WOW!. I mentioned it before. I am offended because race was brought up to begin with.

marinate on that, sincerely.

Well ok you are the one who needs to marinate because you were the one offended by the mere mentioning of this man being black. Now it seems to me mentioning a person race shouldn't offend anyone but that goes along the logic of people who say they don't see color, it makes no sense when they look at someone.This is not an attack on you but this man's race is apart of him and to pretend it don't exist or that we live in a world where race don't matter to some is not realistic.

reply to post by Chai_An


Race shouldn't be an issue unless you have racist intentions.

second line.

Originally posted by kimish

Originally posted by Chai_An

Originally posted by kimish
reply to post by Chai_An

 

Evidently you only read and or hear what you want to. I don't approve of mister Gates because he is discriminatory. Read back to one of the posts I posted earlier and you will find the reason why.

I was against the gay slur, if you read my post and don't cherry pick what you want to read and or hear. I never even brought up the gay comment!

Let your emotions quell before posting again because emotions make us think irrationally. (please, take no offense to that)

edit on 5-10-2011 by kimish because: (no reason given)

I never accused you of bringing up the gay comment, I was pointing out whatever people may or may not have said about Mister Dean is irrelevant to his accomplishments.

Ok, and a point I brought up earlier was that other people have made contributions that were just as important and they don't get recognition and the OP to bring this man up and add last sentence which brought race into the equation bothered me. Now do you see my issue?

Hey they're all important as far as I'm concerned because they've made my life a lot easier. I would like to know who did what in this world, I don't have any hangups about people race being mentioned because that's apart of who they are and I will not participate in not seeing all of them.

Originally posted by Chai_An

Originally posted by kimish

Originally posted by Chai_An

Originally posted by kimish

Originally posted by Chai_An

Originally posted by kimish
reply to post by Chai_An

 

Exactly, that's why the only reason I've heard of the man is because the OP brought him up.

second line.

So you learned about somebody tonight but you were offended by how he was presented to you is that what you're saying?

What hurt you soo much that you are attacking me? I was offended because the topic was "a black man didn't get props" not "a man didn't get props". Can you see the difference? Please tell me you can.

I am not racist but I absolutely hate when race is brought into the equation, it is unnecessary. Totally.

I'm not attacking you, I'm trying to understand what have you so offended about this man's race? He's a black man what's wrong with mentioning he's a black man, cos he is black?

WOW!. I mentioned it before. I am offended because race was brought up to begin with.

marinate on that, sincerely.

Well ok you are the one who needs to marinate because you were the one offended by the mere mentioning of this man being black. Now it seems to me mentioning a person race shouldn't offend anyone but that goes along the logic of people who say they don't see color, it makes no sense when they look at someone.This is not an attack on you but this man's race is apart of him and to pretend it don't exist or that we live in a world where race don't matter to some is not realistic.

If it were a white man who were neglected notoriety and it were brought up that his contributions were not known because he was white... people with your train of thought would be like "it was a white man, what about the asian men, or black men..." , see my point? Race shouldn't have been a factor. A man was neglected notoriety for contributions, which if you read a few posts back, someone posted links to actually discredit the op's main agenda and Mr. Deans contributions, or the contributions the Op states... read between the lines. And that is not a jab at you so please take no offense.

It is past my bed time, I apologize for my incoherent babbling. I will stop posting tonight.

Originally posted by kimish
reply to post by Chai_An

 

Race shouldn't be an issue unless you have racist intentions.

second line.

Race is apart of these people to pretend you don't see them or you see them as a blank slate is nonsensical. People are so obsessed with racism they can't even allow themselves see people race. That don't have to be a bad thing, you are not judging him or her because of their race you are respecting them by seeing all of them including their race.

Originally posted by kimish

Originally posted by Chai_An

Originally posted by kimish

Originally posted by Chai_An

Originally posted by kimish

Originally posted by Chai_An

Originally posted by kimish
reply to post by Chai_An

 

Exactly, that's why the only reason I've heard of the man is because the OP brought him up.

second line.

So you learned about somebody tonight but you were offended by how he was presented to you is that what you're saying?

What hurt you soo much that you are attacking me? I was offended because the topic was "a black man didn't get props" not "a man didn't get props". Can you see the difference? Please tell me you can.

I am not racist but I absolutely hate when race is brought into the equation, it is unnecessary. Totally.

I'm not attacking you, I'm trying to understand what have you so offended about this man's race? He's a black man what's wrong with mentioning he's a black man, cos he is black?

WOW!. I mentioned it before. I am offended because race was brought up to begin with.

marinate on that, sincerely.

Well ok you are the one who needs to marinate because you were the one offended by the mere mentioning of this man being black. Now it seems to me mentioning a person race shouldn't offend anyone but that goes along the logic of people who say they don't see color, it makes no sense when they look at someone.This is not an attack on you but this man's race is apart of him and to pretend it don't exist or that we live in a world where race don't matter to some is not realistic.

If it were a white man who were neglected notoriety and it were brought up that his contributions were not known because he was white... people with your train of thought would be like "it was a white man, what about the asian men, or black men..." , see my point?

No people of my train of thought would say give him his props!

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I will post to say I agree! %100 and I wish more people were like you.

Originally posted by Chai_An

Originally posted by kimish

Originally posted by Alxandro
No disrespect to Dean but since the race card has been brought up, I need to ask,

I wonder how many times was he called an Uncle Tom while working hard as a student?
How many times was he accused of not keeping real?

One last question regarding the twinkle in his eye,
... is he gay?

Excellent point (except for the gay quote, uncalled for). Bill Cosby was called a house 'n-word' and uncle tom for calling blacks out on not taking responsibility for themselves. That kind of relates to this thread... www.abovetopsecret.com...

edit on 5-10-2011 by kimish because: (no reason given)

No it don't relate to this thread? How does anyone calling someone those names even relate to the discussion at hand? If another black person said something mean about this man it does not relegate his contributions to computer science to the junk pile. Caucasians never said anything negative about Mister Jobs, or Bill Gates? These two men were well liked by all white people? Really? If not did those other white people's comments diminish their contributions to computers? No. So what does Mister Dean sexuality or what other blacks may or may not have said about him have to do with his inventing a computer chip? Nothing.

edit on 5-10-2011 by Chai_An because: (no reason given)

For the record I am neither black nor white, I am Hispanic, and the point I was making was that since this was the first time I had heard of Dean thanks to the Op, why not find out everything about him.
He's black sure, and his contributions are great I'm sure, but why stop there?
If he is also gay, let's hear it.
That way both gays and homosexuals can cheer together.
What's wrong with that?
I don't have have a problem with it, why should you, unless you feel it's not right .

But regarding your last comment "what other blacks may or may not have said about him have to do with his inventing a computer chip?"

I say it is significant because if a certain black individual is chastised for not acting like other blacks, that individual will not develop to his full potential and will forever be a slave to what his own people think he should act, feel and how he should behave.

My point is, show me a very successful black person, outside of sports, and I'll show you a person that has been accussed of not keeping it real by his own people.
Truly sad.