Who are the 99%?

Originally posted by xavi1000

The cancer industry is a sick corporation that profits of the suffering of cancer patients. They tell you that you have a certain period to live and make sure its your time to die by pumping painfull radiated chemicals into your body while stealing not just all of your hard earned money but family also.

Originally posted by Headband7
reply to post by Misoir

 

The path of destruction isn't hard to find just open your damn eyes nimrod.

Good argument, you make a strong case as to why I am wrong.

The 99% are actually about 7-9% (If they're lucky).

Originally posted by radosta
The 99% are actually about 7-9% (If they're lucky).

Waste of bandwidth
Have fun at your day job, or your middle school, whatever it is.
Move along, nothing to see here.

Originally posted by Infrasilent
reply to post by Anusuia

 

You, and the rest of the industrialized world, have taken advantage of the achievements in medicine that were made possible by the extraordinary incentive (read profit) generated by the healthcare system in the United States. We even subsidize certain drugs for OTHER NATIONS but not our own.

Why?

Because someone has to pay for them. And no other nation is able/willing to.

That poor guy may have to pay an extraordinary sum of money to take care of his girlfriend, but she's alive-- he should take comfort in the fact that any amount of money can keep her alive.

There is alot of crap on this site. But rarely do I get to read such uneducated ill informed statements such as this. You think that because my forfathers had greater vision of looking after it's population than yours that we've somehow stolen from you? Perhaps you don't have national health care or cheap meds because you fund nuclear aircraft carriers and such. Australia like most western countries are very wealthy. It's just depends on where the money is spent as to how well off the population is.

The health of our nation is the responsibility of our governent. Thats one of the reason every house in the country has it's rubbish collected which I know for a fact doesn't happen everywhere in the U.S

Australia has always been a wealthy 1st rate country and in fact the reason we have it so good is that my forfathers saw the mistakes of your forfathers and those of europe and put things in place to avoid those mistakes.

While your forfathers were building industry in buildings in the cities one floor on top of the other and creating mass unemployment and slums. My forfathers were imposing hight restrictions on buildings to force undustry out instead of up which spread the wealth, created employment, caused the population to move out of the cities and avoided slums. That's why today the average person lives in a house in the suburbs and can afford it.

It's that kind of mindset that has made the average Australian healthier and wealthier than the average American, European or Brit.

Your obvious ignorence of the outside world isn't uncommon of Americans. This is why it's generaly accepted that to ask an American these questions you'll get these wrong replies.

Who invtented the car? = Henry Ford
When did WW2 start? = 1941
When was the industrial revolution? = Early 1900's
Which is the largest British country? = Australia

I lived in the U.S for two years and I know.

It's only now that our government has dropped the ball but they will pay for it.

What an ignorent unresearched ill informed statement you just made.

Originally posted by AzureSky

Originally posted by radosta
The 99% are actually about 7-9% (If they're lucky).

Waste of bandwidth
Have fun at your day job, or your middle school, whatever it is.
Move along, nothing to see here.

I respectfully disagree. I think there is plenty to see here. And while I had plenty of fun in my middle school, I do have a day job. No time for growing wiry beards and complaining about things I have no concept of.

7-9% is a very generous figure. The vast majority of the country hates socialism (even if they dabble in it from time to time -which is certainly hypocritical and should stop). This movement is nothing but a power grab by the very elites you think you are fighting against. They did the exact same thing in 1913.

Hey, if folks want to be useful idiots, that's their bag.
Like you say, I'll sit back and watch as you get used.

Stay here! Much to see here!

And before someone says it, I am not a paid shill, I m not a right winger (very far from it), and I do not give a crap about threats from goofy hippies.

Originally posted by radosta

Originally posted by AzureSky

Originally posted by radosta
The 99% are actually about 7-9% (If they're lucky).

Waste of bandwidth
Have fun at your day job, or your middle school, whatever it is.
Move along, nothing to see here.

I respectfully disagree. I think there is plenty to see here. And while I had plenty of fun in my middle school, I do have a day job. No time for growing wiry beards and complaining about things I have no concept of.

7-9% is a very generous figure. The vast majority of the country hates socialism (even if they dabble in it from time to time -which is certainly hypocritical and should stop). This movement is nothing but a power grab by the very elites you think you are fighting against. They did the exact same thing in 1913.

Hey, if folks want to be useful idiots, that's their bag.
Like you say, I'll sit back and watch as you get used.

Stay here! Much to see here!

And before someone says it, I am not a paid shill, I m not a right winger (very far from it), and I do not give a crap about threats from goofy hippies.

edit on 5-10-2011 by radosta because: (no reason given)

Nah, Not everything is a psyop you know. You can throw socialist and communist around all your want. But it is moot, because the movement does not fall into any of those structures.

Go ahead and think everything is a psyop all you want, change is coming, and with the general population barely able to make ends meet, people will start snapping sooner or later.
The unemployment rate in the US is 9.1%. Those are just ones looking that cant find anything, doesnt count the people who have given up, doesnt count the people who are struggling to get by.

Think outside of your own little bubble and smell the bullsh!t

Originally posted by Majestyka

Originally posted by Infrasilent
reply to post by xavi1000

 

That's a really awful story, but without the technological developments of our current economic and healthcare system she'd probably be dead.

Paycheck to paycheck? If my girlfriend had just survived cancer, I doubt I would care about living paycheck to paycheck.

It's all about priorities in life. Life ought to be pretty high on the list, I would think, and the money isn't going to come out of thin air.

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here in canada if i break my arm and go to the hospital i go home with a cast and maybe a prescription for 40$
in america dont you go home with a cast and a huge bill???

sure we have to wait for certain treatments up here, sure we pay more for fuel and other "things"..... we value healthcare for all, Americans value money made through healthcare to some who prove to be profitable.

Don't forget to mention that most countries with national healthcare have a reciprocal policy. So if I being Australian went to Canada (which I have) sweden, Finland, Norway the U.K and so many other countries and broke my arm it wouldn't cost me a cent. I'd just have to show my Australian medicare card.

Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
This thread is to hopefully explain who the 99% are.

They are me, you, your parents, your grandparents, your siblings, your cousins, your friends, your co workers, your fellow Earthlings! We hail from all socioeconomical backgrounds, all faiths, all skin colours, all facets of society.

To those that see the #OccupyEverything campaigns currently ongoing as something evil please take a couple of minutes to read some of the stories contained therein :
wearethe99percent.tumblr.com...

If none of these stories tugs at your heart, brings a tear to your eye then you are heartless!

We are everyone, we are everywhere! WE ALL ARE THE 99%!

If your story is posted please post here!

edit on 5-10-2011 by TheImmaculateD1 because: (no reason given)

You should change the name of your thread! From a question to a declaration ! Or something like this.... Do you want to know who the 99 % are ??? Might gather more appropriate interest

Originally posted by thejlxc
The reality may sink in one day.

We're ALL in the 99 percent. I doubt too many trillionaires in here.

I do too, seeing as how we're a community of intellectuals and they are dumb as doorposts. Seriously have you heard what the trillionaires are saying lately? Every time they open their mouth I am awwed by how dumb they sound!

I'm having trouble grasping who exactly the 1% are. It seems like they are a faceless enemy that is being painted as a target for "revenge" for "stealing" everything from the 99%, but no one can seem to put names to this faceless enemy. "Banks" is a word that is often associated with the 1%, but I used to do a lot of bank work (I'm an architect) and still keep in contact with those clients and they are hurting right now too. Bank employees are as worried about their jobs as anyone else, and most banks have completely stopped all new construction. My wife is with a large health insurance company and insurance often gets painted as the "bad guy" in these 99% discussions, but again, they've sustained heavy layoffs in this recession and all the employees are struggling with keeping their jobs while being overworked, and their salaries have been flat for over 5 years now. Who is the 1%???

My wife and I have worked very hard for our 25+ year careers and have made very good money. We've been blessed to have jobs throughout all the recessions we've lived through. We've paid off our house, lived with older high mileage cars to avoid car payments, saved up money to put our kids through college without burdening them with college loan debt, and set aside substantial amounts for our retirement. When we buy things we save in advance until we can pay for them rather than going into debt to pay for them "later" (this was very common up until the 70's but is largely forgotten in the got-to-have-it-now generation). We've been frugal, but not miserly. We support a child in South America and donate our time and money to various causes. We are not the "99%", I've read the stories of misery and they are heart-breaking, but we don't have such stories ourselves. We also are definitely not part of the 1%, we always followed the advice we received throughout the 80's and 90's and invested heavily in stocks and paid dearly for following that crappy advice. We're financially stable, but certainly not rich. I suspect the 99% is really a much smaller percentage and that I belong to a larger percentage of people who are hunkered down in survival mode patiently waiting for the next election to exercise our own form of protest.

I am the 80% that thinks..scratch that...knows you 99 per centers are a bunch of tools. But thats probably over your head.

In other words there is always a top one percent and it doesn't matter what the hell you are talking about.

If you have a grievance with someone or something then call them out by name. Otherwise your an ignorant tool.

You also think you stand for equality and all that happy bs, but I can tell you right now that your dead wrong.

Originally posted by SavedOne
I'm having trouble grasping who exactly the 1% are. It seems like they are a faceless enemy that is being painted as a target for "revenge" for "stealing" everything from the 99%, but no one can seem to put names to this faceless enemy. "Banks" is a word that is often associated with the 1%, but I used to do a lot of bank work (I'm an architect) and still keep in contact with those clients and they are hurting right now too. Bank employees are as worried about their jobs as anyone else, and most banks have completely stopped all new construction. My wife is with a large health insurance company and insurance often gets painted as the "bad guy" in these 99% discussions, but again, they've sustained heavy layoffs in this recession and all the employees are struggling with keeping their jobs while being overworked, and their salaries have been flat for over 5 years now. Who is the 1%???

My wife and I have worked very hard for our 25+ year careers and have made very good money. We've been blessed to have jobs throughout all the recessions we've lived through. We've paid off our house, lived with older high mileage cars to avoid car payments, saved up money to put our kids through college without burdening them with college loan debt, and set aside substantial amounts for our retirement. When we buy things we save in advance until we can pay for them rather than going into debt to pay for them "later" (this was very common up until the 70's but is largely forgotten in the got-to-have-it-now generation). We've been frugal, but not miserly. We support a child in South America and donate our time and money to various causes. We are not the "99%", I've read the stories of misery and they are heart-breaking, but we don't have such stories ourselves. We also are definitely not part of the 1%, we always followed the advice we received throughout the 80's and 90's and invested heavily in stocks and paid dearly for following that crappy advice. We're financially stable, but certainly not rich. I suspect the 99% is really a much smaller percentage and that I belong to a larger percentage of people who are hunkered down in survival mode patiently waiting for the next election to exercise our own form of protest.

Congrats on your situation, i find that admirable. I myself am in an alright situation, i still find i run out of money pretty quick but i survive. But its about everyone as a whole. You may be doing fine, and thats good, but some people never had the chance, a lot of people cannot find jobs. A lot of people are mad they cant work, or get adequate health care, or a chance to go to school.

You are part of the 99%. A percentage of your paycheque went into the pocket of some billionaire, or was made into a bomb that was dropped on a house in iraq. If you lost your job though, and you could not find another one, or your wife. What would happen?

With the threat of a doubledip recession in the united states and essentially, the entire planet. Jobs are going to be decimated. And some rich bastard somewhere will be putting a nice billion dollar bonus in his pocket. These super rich people actually make money off of a country going into a recession. Odd eh?

The game is rigged, "Why not crash the economy, and get more stimulus money in the process that will be spent everywhere else, except the place it was meant for"
thousands of children go hungry every single day, because daddy or mommy can't find a job and their social security has run thin. Daddy goes and robs a store so he can have some money to buy his children food. It does happen, and im sure a fair percentage of robberies are out of desperation.

Once you connect the dots that the entire thing is interconnected then you realize that this entire movement is about love and respect for our fellow man. No matter what political direction you swing, sexual orientation, skin color. It matters not what label you are, as labels only put a limit on human capability. These big bankers are crashing your economy as we speak, have crashed the european economy, and bringing everyone else down by association. I think iceland is fine since they booted out the bankers. Wonder how happy they are up there now. Anyone heard anything?

Originally posted by AzureSky

Originally posted by SavedOne
I'm having trouble grasping who exactly the 1% are. It seems like they are a faceless enemy that is being painted as a target for "revenge" for "stealing" everything from the 99%, but no one can seem to put names to this faceless enemy. "Banks" is a word that is often associated with the 1%, but I used to do a lot of bank work (I'm an architect) and still keep in contact with those clients and they are hurting right now too. Bank employees are as worried about their jobs as anyone else, and most banks have completely stopped all new construction. My wife is with a large health insurance company and insurance often gets painted as the "bad guy" in these 99% discussions, but again, they've sustained heavy layoffs in this recession and all the employees are struggling with keeping their jobs while being overworked, and their salaries have been flat for over 5 years now. Who is the 1%???

My wife and I have worked very hard for our 25+ year careers and have made very good money. We've been blessed to have jobs throughout all the recessions we've lived through. We've paid off our house, lived with older high mileage cars to avoid car payments, saved up money to put our kids through college without burdening them with college loan debt, and set aside substantial amounts for our retirement. When we buy things we save in advance until we can pay for them rather than going into debt to pay for them "later" (this was very common up until the 70's but is largely forgotten in the got-to-have-it-now generation). We've been frugal, but not miserly. We support a child in South America and donate our time and money to various causes. We are not the "99%", I've read the stories of misery and they are heart-breaking, but we don't have such stories ourselves. We also are definitely not part of the 1%, we always followed the advice we received throughout the 80's and 90's and invested heavily in stocks and paid dearly for following that crappy advice. We're financially stable, but certainly not rich. I suspect the 99% is really a much smaller percentage and that I belong to a larger percentage of people who are hunkered down in survival mode patiently waiting for the next election to exercise our own form of protest.

Congrats on your situation, i find that admirable. I myself am in an alright situation, i still find i run out of money pretty quick but i survive. But its about everyone as a whole. You may be doing fine, and thats good, but some people never had the chance, a lot of people cannot find jobs. A lot of people are mad they cant work, or get adequate health care, or a chance to go to school.

You are part of the 99%. A percentage of your paycheque went into the pocket of some billionaire, or was made into a bomb that was dropped on a house in iraq. If you lost your job though, and you could not find another one, or your wife. What would happen?

With the threat of a doubledip recession in the united states and essentially, the entire planet. Jobs are going to be decimated. And some rich bastard somewhere will be putting a nice billion dollar bonus in his pocket. These super rich people actually make money off of a country going into a recession. Odd eh?

The game is rigged, "Why not crash the economy, and get more stimulus money in the process that will be spent everywhere else, except the place it was meant for"
thousands of children go hungry every single day, because daddy or mommy can't find a job and their social security has run thin. Daddy goes and robs a store so he can have some money to buy his children food. It does happen, and im sure a fair percentage of robberies are out of desperation.

Once you connect the dots that the entire thing is interconnected then you realize that this entire movement is about love and respect for our fellow man. No matter what political direction you swing, sexual orientation, skin color. It matters not what label you are, as labels only put a limit on human capability. These big bankers are crashing your economy as we speak, have crashed the european economy, and bringing everyone else down by association. I think iceland is fine since they booted out the bankers. Wonder how happy they are up there now. Anyone heard anything?

Bump*

My gods! What in the nine hells is wrong with people?

What has happened to the basic human values of empathy and sympathy? How has our society as a whole gone so wrong that people are unwilling and unable to understand that people are suffering? We've become so closed off and programed by the establishment that we are unable to recognize the pain that others are in. This thread and some of the replies in it are truly the living example of that.

When I was a child, people cared about those around them. Talked to and cared about strangers. Now? Now all it seems some people care about is themselves, their immediate family and their friends. They couldn't give a rat's patootie about those human beings not in their immediate circle. It's wrong. On every level.

People keep asking HOW did we get into the mess we are in now? Well there is your answer! Staring everyone right in the face. People stopped caring about ALL of mankind, and narrowed their world view to a mere sliver. What we, as a species, really need to regain is compassion, empathy and sympathy. An understanding and caring for our fellow man, be they someone you love dearly, or someone you have never met.

What good are all the technological advances IF the 99% cannot afford them? Very few people in my direct circle can even AFFORD health insurance. My aunt is forced to pay almost $1900 a month in premiums for hers... it's ridiculous.

Open your eyes, people. Understand that the only way out of this mess we are in as a society is via love and compassion. Loosing that? Being unable to feel for others? That's EXACTLY what TPTB want.

Don't let them win!

Originally posted by ProvehitoInAltum
My gods! What in the nine hells is wrong with people?

What has happened to the basic human values of empathy and sympathy? How has our society as a whole gone so wrong that people are unwilling and unable to understand that people are suffering? We've become so closed off and programed by the establishment that we are unable to recognize the pain that others are in. This thread and some of the replies in it are truly the living example of that.

When I was a child, people cared about those around them. Talked to and cared about strangers. Now? Now all it seems some people care about is themselves, their immediate family and their friends. They couldn't give a rat's patootie about those human beings not in their immediate circle. It's wrong. On every level.

People keep asking HOW did we get into the mess we are in now? Well there is your answer! Staring everyone right in the face. People stopped caring about ALL of mankind, and narrowed their world view to a mere sliver. What we, as a species, really need to regain is compassion, empathy and sympathy. An understanding and caring for our fellow man, be they someone you love dearly, or someone you have never met.

What good are all the technological advances IF the 99% cannot afford them? Very few people in my direct circle can even AFFORD health insurance. My aunt is forced to pay almost $1900 a month in premiums for hers... it's ridiculous.

Open your eyes, people. Understand that the only way out of this mess we are in as a society is via love and compassion. Loosing that? Being unable to feel for others? That's EXACTLY what TPTB want.

Don't let them win!

Bump*

Originally posted by ProvehitoInAltum
My gods! What in the nine hells is wrong with people?

What has happened to the basic human values of empathy and sympathy? How has our society as a whole gone so wrong that people are unwilling and unable to understand that people are suffering? We've become so closed off and programed by the establishment that we are unable to recognize the pain that others are in. This thread and some of the replies in it are truly the living example of that.

When I was a child, people cared about those around them. Talked to and cared about strangers. Now? Now all it seems some people care about is themselves, their immediate family and their friends. They couldn't give a rat's patootie about those human beings not in their immediate circle. It's wrong. On every level.

People keep asking HOW did we get into the mess we are in now? Well there is your answer! Staring everyone right in the face. People stopped caring about ALL of mankind, and narrowed their world view to a mere sliver. What we, as a species, really need to regain is compassion, empathy and sympathy. An understanding and caring for our fellow man, be they someone you love dearly, or someone you have never met.

What good are all the technological advances IF the 99% cannot afford them? Very few people in my direct circle can even AFFORD health insurance. My aunt is forced to pay almost $1900 a month in premiums for hers... it's ridiculous.

Open your eyes, people. Understand that the only way out of this mess we are in as a society is via love and compassion. Loosing that? Being unable to feel for others? That's EXACTLY what TPTB want.

Don't let them win!

I suggest you and the rest of the your population light a fire under your leaders butts.

Check this out.

en.wikipedia.org...

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don't know.......

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We all are The 99%!

Originally posted by AzureSky
You are part of the 99%. A percentage of your paycheque went into the pocket of some billionaire,

Please provide a list of the names of these mysterious billionaires we're making rich off our tax dollars, because as far as I can tell they don't really exist. Here's a list of billionaires, perhaps someone here could point out which ones are getting rich off of tax dollars:

www.forbes.com...

Is it Bill Gates of Microsoft? Christy or Jim Walton of Walmart? Maybe it's Mark Zuckerberg, CEO of Facebook? Forrest or John Mars of Mars Candy? Phil Knight of Nike? Frankly in looking down the list I'm seeing a "who's who" of the biggest employers in our country. These are the people that are keeping the economy moving and are the ones who should be receiving incentives to create more jobs rather than being told they need to give up their money simply because they've gotten rich from being entrepreneurs.

Originally posted by AzureSky
If you lost your job though, and you could not find another one, or your wife. What would happen?

As I said, we have no debt. That includes our house. We've been prudent planners, and we're well prepared for whatever may happen. While most others have been charging up their credit cards to the max to buy junk they can't afford and buying houses that were 10x more than they could afford thanks to "wonders" like interest-only loans, we have been controlling our expenditures and planning for the future (whatever it may hold).

Originally posted by AzureSky
With the threat of a doubledip recession in the united states and essentially, the entire planet. Jobs are going to be decimated. And some rich bastard somewhere will be putting a nice billion dollar bonus in his pocket. These super rich people actually make money off of a country going into a recession.

Well then let's go after those rich billionaire bastards that are getting richer off the sweat of our brows!!!!! What are their names again?