Alzheimer's might be transmissible in similar way as infectious prion diseases: study

Alzheimer's might be transmissible in similar way as infectious prion diseases: study

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The brain damage that characterizes Alzheimer's disease may originate in a form similar to that of infectious prion diseases such as bovine spongiform encephalopathy (mad cow) and Creutzfeldt-Jakob, according to newly published research by The University of Texas Health Science Center at Houston (UTHealth).
"Our findings open the possibility that some of the sporadic Alzheimer's cases may arise from an infectious process...,

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I find the possibility rather alarming.

The topic is medical, but it may relate beyond that to something unstated, the prevalence of a causative agent, an infection vector, which has risen dramatically as reached the peak of the industrial era. But let me not get ahead of myself here.

What we are talking about here are Prions. These prions are protein chains which have become mangled, or mis-folded, and as a result they cause metabolic chaos within cells. Mad Cow Disease and it's human form, Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, are said to be caused by prions.



Because prions (proteins) are physically structured in a way that our body chemistry cannot handle, they cause a major disruption in the way other chemicals behave in the body... particularly copper according to at least some researchers. It is that copper issue that causes the brains of mammals to develop "holes" or "gaps" (perhaps akin to empty bubbles of space) within the brain tissue. These are rapidly lined with plaque that has a tremendous detrimental affect on our brain's ability to process data as it should.

This kind of disease has been known to migrate from one creature to another via ingestion,. we are what we eat. But it has also been found in animal dung... which explains how cows can contract it from each other.

"The underlying mechanism of Alzheimer's disease is very similar to the prion diseases. It involves a normal protein that becomes misshapen and is able to spread by transforming good proteins to bad ones. The bad proteins accumulate in the brain, forming plaque deposits that are believed to kill neuron cells in Alzheimer's."

Now this particular idea is still a theory... especially the part involving heavy-metals in biology such as copper; others are still maintaining that it is a virus that causes the prion formation, and some insist that there are multiple contributing factors that create the errant protein which becomes embedded within the cells and folds other proteins to it's own misshapen structure (which is why prions are said to "propagate" instead of "reproducing.")

But consider this, rather conspiratorial angle, if you will:

Should the fact be that there is a causal relationship between the advances in industrial activity, and the increase in toxic effluvium being spewed out into the environment; would the medical community tell us? Or would they instead focus on the disease symptoms and treatment, without letting us know that the blossoming of Alzheimer's and Autism are related to our modern chemical way of life?

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I think you know the answer to the question.
There are cures for a lot of diseases, yet none are used. Only treatments are used. There is no money in curing a disease. If Dr. Jonas Saulk could cure Polio without computers, then why can we not cure modern diseases with them? Big pharma controls the information. I would not be surprised if they are in bed with the military experimenting with diseases and prions in order to control populations and bring down governments without firing a shot.

Take diabetes for example. According to estimates, as many as 3 million Americans have type 1 diabetes. A testing unit to measure blood glucose averages $15. So, $15 x 3M = $45M. now add in the test strips at an average of $20 a box times 3 million = $60M. Now they got the $45M which is probably good for a year or two until the unit needs replaced. now the $60M is for about 60 strips. If the average person only uses one per day, then that translates into $30M per month in revenue. That's about $360M per year in revenue. And that is just one disease. How many people with type II diabetes has to measure blood glucose levels? What about the common cold? Billions there. Is anyone really naive enough to think there will be a cure for something as profitable as cancer or diabetes? Give me a break. This is why I NEVER donate to cancer research. There are cures, but those cures will never see the light of day. The money you donate is just so some lab can exist and employ people and so some CEO and board members can rack up some cash for doing nothing.

reply to post by Maxmars


The first two diseases are meat borne illnesses...So, maybe meat eating has something to do with it? There is a connection between meat eating and diabetes Perhaps this could be a vector?

(for the record I am not a vegan).

aluminum is transmissible. therefore diseases that arise from aluminum toxicity can be considered transmissible i suppose.

not sure if i buy the infectious part.

Originally posted by haarvik
I think you know the answer to the question.
There are cures for a lot of diseases, yet none are used. Only treatments are used. There is no money in curing a disease. If Dr. Jonas Saulk could cure Polio without computers, then why can we not cure modern diseases with them? Big pharma controls the information. I would not be surprised if they are in bed with the military experimenting with diseases and prions in order to control populations and bring down governments without firing a shot.

Take diabetes for example. According to estimates, as many as 3 million Americans have type 1 diabetes. A testing unit to measure blood glucose averages $15. So, $15 x 3M = $45M. now add in the test strips at an average of $20 a box times 3 million = $60M. Now they got the $45M which is probably good for a year or two until the unit needs replaced. now the $60M is for about 60 strips. If the average person only uses one per day, then that translates into $30M per month in revenue. That's about $360M per year in revenue. And that is just one disease. How many people with type II diabetes has to measure blood glucose levels? What about the common cold? Billions there. Is anyone really naive enough to think there will be a cure for something as profitable as cancer or diabetes? Give me a break. This is why I NEVER donate to cancer research. There are cures, but those cures will never see the light of day. The money you donate is just so some lab can exist and employ people and so some CEO and board members can rack up some cash for doing nothing.

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My Grandfather recently passed away from this horrible disease. The doctor wanted to give him a pill ( I will have to look up) that he said would "slow" the process, the pill was $100.00 each. Now explain this to me, how can a final stage patient have this disease slowed? I called BS on this. A possible/maybe on a 1st stage patient but not on a final stage patient. Can someone say doctor "kick backs" from the pharma's??

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might be transmissible ....
I'll buy that...

I mean it wasn't that long ago we didn't know cervical cancer was transmissible....

Sure would like to see them come up with a vaccine before I get it... Now what were talking about... oh yeah the summer of 78 great times great times...

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I don't think you can vaccinate against a Prion. Nor do we know the latency period (if it is transmittable). Alzheimers manifests slowly. It look my Grandmother 4 years to die after being diagnosed (and by this time she was already well out of her mind). I'm quite sure it was building for at least 10 years. If you had the prion you are already screwed.

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I have a dear friend... she's 74 as of last month on the 22nd...
been married to the same man for 51 years...

He has Alzheimer's... and the latest report... he no longer remembers who his wife is...

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He should take coconut oil, 3 tablespoons per day.
After the first day, he will start to improve.

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Yea, it's a nasty illness. She didn't remember any of us and by the end was...well, for lack for lack of a better term, she was a vegetable. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy. One of the most painful things I've ever seen.

reply to post by Maxmars
Alzheimers is predicated by a tertiary folding of the a-beta amyloid.
How would a prion affect this folding in the hypocampus?

Originally posted by haarvik
reply to post by GrandpaDave

 

He should take coconut oil, 3 tablespoons per day.
After the first day, he will start to improve.

Too late for that...
he got so bad she had to put him in a hospice (home)

Originally posted by beezzer
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Alzheimers is predicated by a tertiary folding of the a-beta amyloid.
How would a prion affect this folding in the hypocampus?

As a layman, I can only answer what I believe I understand (so please correct me if you know otherwise.)

We know that prions gather, or aggregate, outside the cell. This leads to a plaque buildup that forces/spawns the vacuoles in the brain tissue. It also creates (and this is where I may need guidance) an area which I can only imagine as a kind of collection of 'Velcro-looking' molecules that snag other proteins (and precursor proteins like the a-beta amyloid) forcing them 'mechanically' to adopt the same 'misfold' the prion exhibits. Thus they begin an exponential growth pattern, as more plaque builds up, there's more fuel for the prion propagation.

I wish I could be more scientifically specific than that, but I am only trying to adapt my vague understanding to the question. Please forgive me if I embarrassed myself here... I am no biochemical specialist.

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Sorry to hear that. If one can start the treatments before serious damage has occurred in the brain, coconut oil can reverse the damage. Do some googling on it. Quite interesting how it works.

reply to post by Maxmars
From what I understood, the tertiary folding triggers a complement-cascade that allows for an "immune response" along the folding areas, causing the plaques.

This new line of thinking is fascinating.

Thanks for the reply.



ETA; maybe there are binding properties that aggregate the prions due to the unusual folding of the amyloid.

How does one ingest 3 tblspoons of coconut oil?
I fully believe in the health benefits of it, hadn't heard of this one.

We also still believe in Rick Simpson's ingestion of the hemp oil, to cure most ailments.


Glad to see you kept the same avatar, GrandpaDave.

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When the oil gets above 76 degrees, it becomes liquid.
I take it every day and have not had a cold or anything since I started taking it.

Originally posted by ItsEvolutionBaby

How does one ingest 3 tblspoons of coconut oil?



Glad to see you kept the same avatar, GrandpaDave.

Quickly... don't sip... that just makes getting it down harder... big gulp, all at once... then you can make all the funny faces and strange sounds you like...

Yeah I was going to change my avatar too... but I know the nic change is already going to confuse a lot of reg's

Prions are very scary, peculiar items. There are very few ways to sterilize and denature their structure, even radiation or intense heat (think 500°C+) struggles to have an effect. Ozone, however, has been found to destroy the disease, but administering ozone to the patient without actually affecting the patient has posed a major problem, as ozone is incredibly toxic. There have been recent findings that lichens (yes, lichens) might offer a cure, but researchers are still struggling on how exactly it works, but they understand that it inhibits prion protein production.

I'm interested in seeing where this goes, because up until now, curing or even treating these diseases has been essentially futile.