Millions Abandon Cali Life & Other Lifestyles, Forced to Live Crowded & out of Tents & Cars

this is happening all across America; small towns and big cities alike.

smaller, reserved communities aren't spared, as only the largest & most accessible of business survive this downward spiral economy.

at this rate, big inner cities like nyc which is already overcrowded will soon be way past maximum capacity (if not already including undocumented populations) and even their infrastructure will collapse as the masses struggling to survive, will be bringing down the quality of life below zero as they flock to the big cities but end up jobless, homeless even there.

if theres one major thing such different cities like nyc and sacramento have, is now tent cities. people are living out of tents in the park or cars in various parking ots, going thru residence's garbage for food to supplement their shelter meals and food stamp rations, urinating and defecating right on the sidewalk/curb/street. in fact that is what precipitated me to start this topic cuz i was visiting family in brooklyn and there were these mexicans living out of a van (like 20 of them in one van) and while i was parking it looked like both men women and kids were takin turns urinated right behind their van onto the street where minutes ago a kid playing on the ground with chalk

i've seen it get very bad every year since the 90s, as far as undocuments and crowding and filth, and now in recent years its exponentially worse becuz people simply don't have money anymore like they used to and they are desperate and will do anything to make a living even if it means making the whole situation worse for everyone anyways.

i know its not their fault as most of this comes from our police state wasting our money for genocide and false flag occult sacrifices, but its a shame not enuf people are resist the dumbing down. when i observe people in public sadly most of the time it seems they're violent, moody, emo, greedy, loud, rude, poor, ghetto, unhygenic, dirty, disrespectful and violent especially the youth.

where is this heading??

ps i dont think social protests like the wall st thingy even helps, if anything it is a covert cia-directed social media agenda meant to prime officials for martial law.

and likewise forcing people out of spread-out sprawling land & residences, and into concentrated sardine cans, likewise makes control and depop easier when the times comes.

I think all those millions should go pitch their tents on their respective state capital lawns, or better yet, the white house lawn. lol

If they are here illegally,

I think they should go there ass back home.

Don't care to hear it, I won't be back.


If I do the crime, I have to do the time.

We need that money you're soaking up for real citizens.

And if you do stay, at least don't bitch about the way we do things.

Originally posted by rbnhd76
If they are here illegally,

I think they should go there ass back home.

Don't care to hear it, I won't be back.


If I do the crime, I have to do the time.

We need that money you're soaking up for real citizens.

And if you do stay, at least don't bitch about the way we do things.

That is a very naive statement sir these ARE citizens look at the news broadcasts, I know people that have had to go this route and were born here.. This kind of post is volumes says volumes about your personal ethics. Thanks for Playing. Oh and Iam a Californian Sac is not an hour from me and that is the largest "tent city" there are at least a dozen others from San Francisco to Sac.

These people don't look like illegal immigrants to me.

Can we actually talk about the growing homeless situation now please.


David Grouchy

Originally posted by rbnhd76
If they are here illegally,

I think they should go there ass back home.

i know, right!

uselectionnews.org...

US government is encouraging illegal immigration! we have at least 30 million illegal mexicans here already, and every year another million more. its adding up!

NWO wants to destroy America as we know it. they see the illegal swarming in as yet another tool to aid in their plot of destruction via chaos.

their vision is of one Western hemisphere country, anyway. mexico is their terroritory. so the elite scientists dont care who's on what side of the mexican border, when the day comes, everyone's gonna suffer then disappear when TSHTF.

"Over a million American households
may lose their homes to foreclosure this year."


David Grouchy

I can say that the people down at the Career Center in my city told me they are commonly seeing people with out of state ID's. They had explained that they are seeing a regular flow of people travelling up or down the interstate in search of work and stopping just long enough to check prospects before driving on to the next area. It's certainly disturbing to hear about this happening with families and such. These are bad times.

hell, i'm living out of my car right now, trying to find a job and i was born right here in florida.....it's crazy out here, there's a bunch of people that would be doing this if they weren't on food stamps and unemployment.....

Originally posted by davidgrouchy

These people don't look like illegal immigrants to me.

Can we actually talk about the growing homeless situation now please.

currently 1/3 (and growing) of US's prisoners, homeless, and public assistance persons are illegal mexicans.

anyways yeah lets talk about the other 2/3 that aren't illegals.

nevermind i think i said enuf for now.

I slept in my car the other day. it is not fun.

I cannot help but have human compassion for these people, then I think of two things:

The Georgia Guidestones---500 million world population
and a quote from Joseph Stalin "One murder is a tragedy. One thousand murders is a statistic."

It makes you wonder.

Instead of actually governing a city
elected officials decided it was easier to
redraw the "official" city limits and recapture
all the taxes from people who fled to the suburbs.

The cities themselves have grown in a bloated and inefficient pattern.
Frequently consuming farm land and replacing them with consumers.


David Grouchy

Take Austin, the capitol of Texas for example.

Originally posted by warrenite
I slept in my car the other day. it is not fun.

I cannot help but have human compassion for these people, then I think of two things:

The Georgia Guidestones---500 million world population
and a quote from Joseph Stalin "One murder is a tragedy. One thousand murders is a statistic."

It makes you wonder.

i tell you what, it really makes you understand a bit more fully what these tyrants in washington are doing when you are directly affected by it like i am......conspiracy? hell ya, now i believe every conspiracy that is outed about those rotten bastards...i'm living in my car right now, don't have a job, luckily i had a boat that i could sell for $300, now i'll be able to eat for another week or so...it just pisses me off when i see people on ats taking up for these bastards and thinking that there surely couldn't be anyone in the government that would be evil enough to do something like this....let me tell you, they did 9/11, they killed kennedy, they got us into a bunch of unnecessary wars that cost the same amount as what we are lacking for our social security, they steal from us, they allow banks to steal our homes, they feel our nutsacks when we want to ride a plane, the list is endless and i'm up to my eyeballs with this crap

Great Thread OP ... S&F

I agree with everything you said. This is a real shame. Our country is going to Hell. I know when I was growing up (times were sure better in the 1960's --1970's) families lived together if need be, or if worse came to worse. It wasn't frowned upon and people weren't harshly judged. Sometimes, it just happened, and it seemed to be a common sense solution. It was common, acceptable and every day normal for extended family members to live together in a variety of workable arrangements, including co-ownership of a multi-family home.

I think a good share of families with adult children, along with a grandparent or two, or kids waiting longer to leave home, do still live together in times of financial need, but I think that over the decades this tradition is disappearing.

I've noticed over the past few decades that 'homes for sale' with a 'mother-daughter suite' or an 'in-law suite' in a typical one-family home was a great selling feature, and it was more common in homes built before the 1970's, but, with each decade became less and less common. There was a win-win if there was more than one household income if the grandparent contributed money from their SS check or retirement funds, etc,. to help with food costs and so on and then helped care for the children.

Over the past two decades a live-in nanny or au-pair have replaced grandparents, in terms of daily child-care. Who better to care for the children while both parents work outside of the home but the grandparent(s)? (Plus it's FREE). One of my grandparents helped raise me and my siblings for a few years when times were tough and my mom took a part-time job.

No questions asked -- my grandmother came to live with us temporarily until someone else in the extended family member requested she stay with them and help them with child-care in exchange for free rent. This was common in the areas where I grew up. Families were more likely to help each other and to work out a fair plan that was mutually beneficial than to compete with each other. The grandparents that could help out did help out because everyone pitched in and helped however they could as they lived nearer to each other, as this was necessary for survival. For a variety of reasons, especially job relocation, many families today aren't as close.

Children are often traumatized, and like the parents, suffer miserably though homelessness and poverty. Sometimes families are split apart and this is especially sad, as they are in a difficult time and place in their lives where they really need each other the most. Children also need grandparents, especially when the parents are working or are away. The homeless situation has displaced so many families that it has also left children without family members (both immediate family and extended family as well) that could be supportive and uplifting -- something they really need in their life. The problems are so widespread and far-reaching.

So many of today's children do not have the structure or stability of a home where at least one parent/mature adult is in the home at all times -- parent or grandparent or elderly aunt, and so on, and where moms could stay home to raise their children instead of having to worry about an extra paycheck to make ends meet. There is no excuse for this. Just considering the money that the government wastes could help so many people -- just the waste and the wasted money alone, not even counting the greed.

I don't have all the answers but I do think that relocating from one place to another might not always be worth the stress or the risk. I can imagine this situation might make one want to run or to feel that they are moving forward instead of remaining stagnant or doing nothing. But, I think relocation isn't always the solution. Sometimes it is best, but sometimes it can be a costly mistake.

If I could talk to these people I'd suggest that they never make major decisions when in a place of fear, panic, anger, confusion or exhaustion. Also, we need to be mindful that we do take our problems, issues, attitudes and habits right along with us (wherever we go, our head follows) When money is already tight we need to be extra careful how it's spent. Moving costs are high, and unexpected costs that pop-up out of nowhere, are a reality.

As an FYI for anyone who may be considering relocating to the East or NYC Metro are ...since I live outside of NYC, I can say this -- it's probably one of the worst places to be homeless. Shelters are already overcrowded with long waiting lists. At least in California, depending where, it may occassionally get chilly at night, but late Fall and especially Wintertime here is beyond chilly -- its freezing --- windy, snowstorms on and off and temps are 5 to 35 degrees throughout most of the winter. Many families who have homes cannot afford the exorbitant utilities and are living in a home with no heat or electricity. Unbelievable! Many homeless people down on their luck are treated like criminals and Tent Cities don't last very long here ... just a heads-up about the reality of the NYC Metro areas.

This is all so tragic and sad. My prayers go out to all those who are scared, hungry and tired and in need.

Luckily for me there are enough rich people around here to do a couple B&Es on or maybe some car hoppin' and I'll be set in case of any kind of crisis or disaster. That is of course my "I'm not living in a tent" plan.

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I am 50 my husbnad is 57 we both were layed off in february of this year. We have come real close to using the last of our 401 reirement. We have been talking about hitting the road to find any work out there, anywhere from flipping hamburgers to walmart greater anything we are desperate. I can actually for the first time in my life see myself in a tent city within less then a year. We are currently getting unemployment from my husband. We do not qualify for food stamps or medicade. We have a home in a small city which we started buying 3 years ago, have 12 more years mortgage payments. It appears we will be forced into a large city. Im thankful of where our home is, near a military training border town. It will rent easily to either military or border patrol family. We ( pray) hope we can rent it through the next 12 years, then we can return, ( if we are still alive) ya, we was a middle income family, in the past 3 years sense a certain man took leadership of a certain country our life has slowly spiraled down down down. We thank you mr president and elites you are succeeding and repopulating the commoners into larger cities.
Are they gonna take us out? Are they gonna enslave us even further then we already are? None of this makes any sense.
Peace to the world, we commoners are in serious trouble right know.

How dare you show the plight of the poor! You know they are poor because they are just stupid and lazy. They need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps.

/sarcasm

I'd pull myself up by my bootstraps if I could afford a pair.

There will be over a million more foreclosures in the next year or so. Banks DO want the house back.

This is what I found out last year when a neighbors home was foreclosed on. She didn't lose her job. She had a good job, but she was struggling with breast cancer and had to leave her job. Things went downhill from there. Being a single person with a one-income household didn't help either. Her only child, a 26 yr-old son, lives on his own and is out of college. So, his income wouldn't help save the day, unless he moved back in with mom ... doubtful. She tried to sell the house but had no luck and the only buyer came in with an offer the Banks refused. Oddly, though, the house sat vacant for 8-months and the Bank finally sold it for $35,000 less than the offer. She had told them they wouldn't get more $$$ for the house and to approve and agree with the offer, but the Bank didn't want to hear it -- they wanted the house back. They were only accepting Short Sale offers IF the offer was very close to what was owed on the mortgage -- real, real close -- they raised the bar on that condition.

She later told me that the Banks DO want the house back. I researched this a while ago and found out it's true.

I can remember back to the 70's and 80's, and prior decades as well, they DIDN'T want the house back. They just had to finally at some point take it back. They are responsible for abandoned or vacant homes and for covering the property taxes, utilities, water and maintenance. Plus, they weren't in the real estate business -- they're a financial institution. So, back then, they really didn't want to F/C as they did not want the house back, although they eventually had to take it back. But, that's not true anymore. Once Wall Street took over mortgage loans, sometime in the1990's, they DO want the house back.

If the Banks refuse to accept a qualified buyer's offer, below what is owed on the mortgage, a typical 'Short Sale', (and the Banks very often refuse a Short Sale offer) the Bank takes the house back and they get paid to do so, which means the homeowner can't sell, and in taking the house back, the Banks are compensated with (bail-out $$$) and given 'fair-market value' for the house, which is inflated $$$$ ... so that they're insured of getting top-dollar for a house they foreclosed on (and got paid generously to do so and compensated for the house) and then they sell the house on the MLS open-market or at auction -- a house they were already paid for under the so-called government bail-out program -- a program that helped them significantly more than the average person losing their home or trying to refinance or work out a reasonable, affordable loan-mod.

These greedy Bankers turn around and sell the house for whatever they can get -- "double dipping". They pocketed twice and didn't channel any of the money back into circulation to help those who need it. Most people aren't looking for handouts or a free ride. Most people are honest, hardworking people ... not all, but most.

Anytime that greedy sociopathic (without conscience) people are in charge, it's never a good thing.

Originally posted by patternfinder
hell, i'm living out of my car right now, trying to find a job and i was born right here in florida.....it's crazy out here, there's a bunch of people that would be doing this if they weren't on food stamps and unemployment.....

I've lived in a car before. It was rough.

How long have you been living in your car? Have the police been giving you any trouble? Does anyone help you out? How are you surviving? Have you received any flack from anyone?

I hope things look up for you.

There are a lot of homeless people.

I've been homeless five times in the past. I've barely got a roof over my head now, and I am very worried about it.

Originally posted by ignant
Millions Abandon Cali Life & Other Lifestyles, Forced to Live Crowded & out of Tents & Cars,

I watched the clip and it's about some guy voluntarily leaving Cali because of the lack of jobs and liberal governmental policies towards illegal immigrants and higher taxes. He is not being "forced" as the title implies. Also I cannot find any support for this claim that "millions" are involved in this exodus, what is your source? Per Wikipedia, the "chronically" homeless (as opposed to the "temporarily" homeless) consisted of 123,833 people in 2007 (that was down from 2005). That's the latest period they have hard information on. They estimate that 643,067 sheltered and unsheltered homeless were in the US in 2009, that includes the temporarily homeless as well as the chronically homeless. Clearly there are not millions of homeless in the entire country, much less in CA as the title states. Certainly there have been tent cities popping up around the country for many years now, but by and large they've been pretty small up to this point. If you have information that there's been a sudden explosion in these then by all means post it.

Originally posted by ignant
at this rate, big inner cities like nyc which is already overcrowded will soon be way past maximum capacity

Who would go TO New York City when they become homeless? You are saying that people are becoming homeless and moving to the most expensive city in the US to live? I'm skeptical.

Originally posted by ignant
and there were these mexicans living out of a van (like 20 of them in one van)and while i was parking it looked like both men women and kids were takin turns urinated

Ah, OK. 20 men, women and children are living and sleeping in a van. I don't suppose you'd be exaggerating that a wee bit?