Massive Union just voted to join the Occupy Wall Street protests!

reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus


I'll bring the beer, you bring the chips, and we can hire our own agent provocateur to dance...

Seriously, though that list was LONG, and I didn't see anything to the right of Lenin on it! So much for the "bipartisan, let's just all be friends and get this done for all our sakes" talk!

Originally posted by nenothtu
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus

 

I'll bring the beer, you bring the chips, and we can hire our own agent provocateur to dance...

Seriously, though that list was LONG, and I didn't see anything to the right of Lenin on it! So much for the "bipartisan, let's just all be friends and get this done for all our sakes" talk!

I know I kept looking for something less ummm er to the left...
Anyway I'll take you up on that dance.

What'll it be? Waltz tango fox trot viennese waltz cha cha rumba mambo samba paso doble east coast swing salsa? I can do all of those.

Originally posted by nenothtu
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus

 

I'll bring the beer, you bring the chips, and we can hire our own agent provocateur to dance...

Seriously, though that list was LONG, and I didn't see anything to the right of Lenin on it! So much for the "bipartisan, let's just all be friends and get this done for all our sakes" talk!

Did you see this link?

"Are NYC Police Protesting Abuse of Occupy Wall Street?"
october2011.org...

reply to post by Swingline50022


Swing,

Even the NYPD can't ignore it, No one can. I was chatting with a NYPD Ofc. and they were in support but could not come out direct and say it.

reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus

I've been hip to the CFR since the 80's but my point is if the sincere peaceful protesters want to make an impact the FED is far and above the bigger TRUER enemy.

How or WHERE could they protest the CFR?

Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
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Swing,

Even the NYPD can't ignore it, No one can. I was chatting with a NYPD Ofc. and they were in support but could not come out direct and say it.

There are some bad cops but there are good cops too. As the movement grows and as long as it remains non-violent, more and more people in the 99%, including cops, veterans, and soldiers, are going to be more and more likely to get on board and start supporting it. This is how the Viet Nam era anti-war protests grew. In the end, the majority of US citizens had turned against the war. Later psychohistorians have tried to put a different slant on it, but that was how it really happened.

Originally posted by Cinaed
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus

 

I've been hip to the CFR since the 80's but my point is if the sincere peaceful protesters want to make an impact the FED is far and above the bigger TRUER enemy.

How or WHERE could they protest the CFR?

Hmmm that is a good question. When you look at lists of CFR members some really oddballs show up....like media people....even the CEO of Sesame Street, bizarrely enough.

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

What'll it be? Waltz tango fox trot viennese waltz cha cha rumba mambo samba paso doble east coast swing salsa? I can do all of those.

I don't really know what you'd call it when I've been drinking other than motion of a sort... some times I get the distinct impression that I'm standing still, and it's the planet that's dancing.

I think I'm beginning to detect a certain sort of slant in these protests, though. It could just be me, but it may not be as grass-roots as it first appeared.

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Yeah, I did. The word "Solidarnosc"...erm, I mean "solidarity" in combination with the description of a strike on the part of those sworn to serve and protect made some really disturbing connections for me...

Luckily, I'm not in New York there would be hell to pay if the cops were to go on strike around here because someone was protesting...

I mean, what are they paid for? Suppose someone decides to take out a bunch of protestors, and there aren't any cops around to stop it? I hear the protestors are unarmed, so what could they possibly do themselves other than stampede?

Originally posted by nenothtu

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

What'll it be? Waltz tango fox trot viennese waltz cha cha rumba mambo samba paso doble east coast swing salsa? I can do all of those.

I don't really know what you'd call it when I've been drinking other than motion of a sort... some times I get the distinct impression that I'm standing still, and it's the planet that's dancing.

I think I'm beginning to detect a certain sort of slant in these protests, though. It could just be me, but it may not be as grass-roots as it first appeared.


People here are whining about mace and a cops hand in someones face....in Egypt was the real deal with tanks running down people.... then there was the famous camel run...

Yah it took what....14 days for the Unions to show their faces? Kinda reminds me of how the MB kept out of the Egypt uprising for a few weeks..

I guess someone could grab a few camels from the New York zoo..

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Originally posted by nenothtu
reply to post by Swingline50022

 

Yeah, I did. The word "Solidarnosc"...erm, I mean "solidarity" in combination with the description of a strike on the part of those sworn to serve and protect made some really disturbing connections for me...

Luckily, I'm not in New York there would be hell to pay if the cops were to go on strike around here because someone was protesting...

I mean, what are they paid for? Suppose someone decides to take out a bunch of protestors, and there aren't any cops around to stop it? I hear the protestors are unarmed, so what could they possibly do themselves other than stampede?

edit on 2011/10/1 by nenothtu because: (no reason given)

I didn't see the word "strike" although I'd agree that it would be a bad thing if all the good cops continued refusing to go to work, since then the only cops left on the streets would be the bad ones, i.e., the ones who are trying to "take out a bunch of protesters". Hopefully the good cops will eventually get around to seeing to it that the bad cops start obeying the law, or lose their jobs, just as the page author is suggesting.

"Solidarity" is not a bad word or a pro-communist word, so I'm not sure what you're driving at there. The "solidarity movement" in Poland, which is conjured by the use of the word "Solidarnosc", was a late 1980's anti-communist movement, which led to the collapse of communism in Eastern Europe in the 1990's.

Edit to add: Solidarnosc was an independent trade union which opposed the Communist Party in Poland and endured in spite of the imposition of martial law.

Edit to add: Solidarnosc was an independent trade union which opposed the Communist Party in Poland and endured in spite of the imposition of martial law.

I don't want to add fuel to the conspiracy theory fire, but Solidarnosc was funded by George Sorros

According to Neil Clark in the New Statesman, Soros's role was crucial in the collapse of communism in Eastern Europe.[60] From 1979, as an advocate of 'open societies', Soros financially supported dissidents including Poland's Solidarity movement, Charter 77 in Czechoslovakia and Andrei Sakharov in the Soviet Union[49] donating $3 million a year according to Clark.[60]

en.wikipedia.org...

From wikipedia, so don't know how reliable it is. But it does seem a contradiction that someone who fought against communism would want to install global communism.

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No, the actual word "strike" wasn't present, which is why I said "a description of a strike", which is what it's called when workers stay out of work en masse because of a union.

You're right, "Solidarity" is not a "bad" word, it's a buzz word. It was used in the Polish movement not because they were "anti-communist", but because that was a word that had a particular meaning as a buzz word in their world - which was a communist world at the time. It was not an "anti-communist" union, it was "anti-Soviet", a protestation of the fact that the Soviets pretty much ran the entire Warsaw Pact, which included Poland, a fact which many Poles were not happy about at the time. I think in the late 80's it led to relatively free elections in Poland, but not so much Eastern Europe as a whole. My memories of Solidarnosc are from much earlier, around the end of 1981 or beginning or 1982, when martial law was imposed by Jaruzelski as a reaction to the uprising.

You see, the word "solidarity", particularly in that context, conjures up visions of leftists for me from long ago, not necessarily "communists", for the left has a wide spectum just as the right does. It was a common buzz word in those circles, not just a Polish protest movement. We had high hopes for Solidarnosc and Walesa just before the boom was lowered in the martial law crackdown, but those hopes came to naught for nearly 10 years after that before they bore any fruit, and that was as the result of much larger changes giving a fertile ground for a resurgence of the movement.

Having Police strike in "solidarity" with the other unions is not a "right-wing" thing by any stretch of the imagination, nor is it a particularly safety oriented thing.

Originally posted by woodwardjnr

I don't want to add fuel to the conspiracy theory fire, but Solidarnosc was funded by George Sorros

I wish you hadn't mentioned that - it's sure to strike as spark!

But it does seem a contradiction that someone who fought against communism would want to install global communism.

I don't think Soros is a "communist", I think he's a globalist or a global statist, with a strong desire to be the top dog at the top of that heap.

Communism per se is not a "bad" thing, nor is Socialism. Heck, I can recall a time when for at least a third of the entire world population, communists were the only friends they had. No, the philosophy by itself isn't a bad thing. It's the implementation where it generally goes off the rails, and that's not because of the philosophy itself, but because of the would-be dictators who are guiding the implementation, a potential disaster in the implementation of any political philosophy if not guarded closely against.

Hitler wasn't a communist, Stalin wasn't a fascist, Mussolini wasn't a communist, Pol Pot wasn't a fascist, but these all have one thing in common, independent of their professed political philosophies.

George Soros has that same thing in common with all of the above.

Erm....the weather isn't going to help these good folks....

"Flip-flop: After bout of Indian Summer, NE residents told to expect snow
Posted on September 30, 2011 by The Extinction Protocol
September 30, 2011 – STATEN ISLAND, N.Y. — Snow on Staten Island this weekend? It’s a distinct possibility, though frost is more likely, according to AccuWeather meteorologist Brian Edwards. The weather-reporting service headquartered in State College, Pennsylvania, says the greater New York City area can expect its first real taste of winter as sharply colder temperatures blast across the Northeast over the next few days. The cold air is expected to visit the Great Lakes area tonight and Friday before it moves into the Middle Atlantic region. “Temperatures will fall to levels more like late November from Buffalo and Rochester, N.Y. through Pittsburgh, Pa. and Charleston, W.Va.,” Edwards said. High temperatures will be stuck in the 40s, and may be accompanied by winds gusting to 30 miles per hour – which will make the temperatures seem much colder than the thermometer indicates. “Here at AccuWeather.com, we have been talking for several days about the possibility for the first snowflakes of the season on the high ground of the mid-Atlantic,” Edwards said. “The culprit behind this air mass is a secondary storm and associated front which will be dropping down into the mid-Atlantic Friday night into Saturday. This storm will draw cold air southward from Canada. At the same time, a narrow band of heavy rain is forecast to set up across parts of the Appalachians.” If it does snow – and that is really expected only higher-elevation areas – the accumulation won’t be significant. Staten Island is more likely to get some rain. As AccuWeather.com Expert Senior Meteorologist Alex Sosnowski pointed out, “Areas from the ski resorts of western New York State southward to the mountains of western North Carolina and easternmost Tennessee are fair game for snowflakes during the first half of the weekend, essentially Friday night into Saturday night.” The threat won’t just be confined to the Appalachians. Sosnowski points out that “Farther to the east, the highest ground in the Poconos, Catskills, Adirondacks and Endless Mountains may have some snowflakes mixing in Saturday night into Sunday morning.” -Silive

They will really need to get their 'skates' on (no pun intended) if they want to make a difference. Interesting how the UK long range forecast is wrning us of snow at the end of October going into November. Nothing like a bit of bad weather to keep people at home and not out on the streets, especially if the banks/Euro/dollar do collapse around that period.
Hmmmm....just thought I'd mention it
Rainbows
Jane

Felt like sharing a great article I just read, it's related to the Wall street protests and from a spiritual point of view.

supremeboundlessway.com...–-the-spiritual-practice-social-activism/

Love & Enjoy

I have a bad feeling we are being hoodwinked and the "occupiers" have been blindly (or willfully) doing the work of some globalist group who are trying to give a ungodly amount of power to the unions. Or maybe... this whole mess is a ploy to further destabilize the world economy and help create a global currency.

Think about it.. right now the Euro is floundering as a result of Germany having to rescue many of the European economies. This should make the dollar very strong, and likewise, when the us government makes the dollar is weak the Euro is strong. However, it seems that both the US and Europe are trying to devalue their currency. If Wallstreet were to collapse at the same time that the Euro is collaped, the only people who would benefit would be the Chinese, Opec, and anyone with a vast amount of gold and oil.

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Nice. Thank you. I enjoyed reading that. However, meditation is just one peacable way to 'demonstrate', different strokes for different folks!

At the danger of making what could be perceived as a religious statement, which I am most certainly not, I would like to remind everyone about the story of Jesus and the money changers. He threw a fit (showing his humanity in my opinion) overturning the money changers (read bankers) tables over, whilst declaring "you will not exchange money in my fathers temple".
I am sure today he would have added a few choice, colourful expletives!
So here we are 2,000 years ago, money changers aka bankers, going about their business in the portico of the synagogue aka The Bank, and in comes a MAN and tells them "ENOUGH ALREADY!" His fathers temple aka the world we live in.
I cannot help but think this was one of the original conspiracy theories and this is why he became the 'sacraficial lamb' of what has by today become our banking system.
Isn't it time we followed our humanity and reclaimed our basic rights? We do have the power to TURN THE TABLES......without laying a single finger on a banker or his minions.
Rainbows
Jane

here is a link to some photos regarding this... i'm not sure if you have to have a fbook profile or not... but ATS does!

www.facebook.com...

and a link to jeff prager's profile... i'd never heard of this guy before, but if he's not an ATS'er, he sure needs to be!
www.facebook.com...

and the story from bbc...
www.bbc.co.uk...

and a similar thread
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Wow things are happening so fast now. It looks like people are just finally so fed up they are willing to do something to change. I think this is all controlled though. The elites / Satan want a New World Order. How will they set it up when the bible warns about such? They will have to create their own puppet "Illuminati" (Rockefellers, Rothschilds, etc) and they will allow themselves to be sacrificed. Then, when people think that the New World Order was already defeated, will they be allowed to create the real new world order. Most people will buy into it since they believe that it was already defeated