The End of the World as we know it.

The Brainwashed, Bible pounding robot slaves have done a good job at derailing this thread. So if the World ends without Israel first being destroyed, they will never even be aware of the error within their own fairy tale. When are you weak minded foolish mortals going to understand that The Universe is God?

If you want to discuss the flaws of that book that earlier Men wrote in which you worship with blind religious devotion then create a thread in the religion forum and send us a link. The truth of the matter is, Your cells may have evolved over thousands and thousands of years. Yet when it comes down to your intelligence evolving, you're nothing more than an infant. ~SheopleNation

Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by Deetermined

 

You call it "glaring and obvious errors" because you don't understand it. Everytime you lack knowledge in an area of anything, you call it an error. That is what is so painfully obvious to the rest of us.

When there are 2 distinct myths in genesis and neither of them matches the evolutionary sequence you don't think that is a glaring and obvious error? You are kidding right?

When the entire exodus story is called into question because the archaeological record shows it did not happen you don't consider that a huge problem? You are kidding right?

When the geological and biological evidence and numerous dating methods all show that there was no global flood you don't think of it as a problem? You are kidding right?

These are not my observations. These are the observations of archaeologists, geologists, physicists, astronomers, biologists, etc. Don't pretend it is just me. Don't pretend it is painful to the rest of us. The fact is that the bulk of people know.

As for speeding up something religious? Ahmadinejad believes that if he can destroy Israel that he is opening the door for the return of his Messiah and he wants it to happen in his life time. All available quotes are online. Since he is obviously losing power within his own nation and Khamenei no longer supports him, expect him to retaliate and do something totally crazy before the end of his presidency. He is an egomaniac.

Another example of someone who is screwed up and things they can rely on their religion to get what they want.

Evolution theory is seriously flawed. Anyone who believes that the beginning of the universe was created from nothing is a fool. Anyone who believes that evolution was able to produce a human being with a critical thinking brain and emotions is a bigger fool.

You argue for archaeological records and then when someone links you information in regards to them, you blast the archaeologists.

Scientific dating methods are seriously flawed and dates are getting changed constantly because of them.

Originally posted by SheopleNation
The Brainwashed, Bible pounding robot slaves have done a good job at derailing this thread. So if the World ends without Israel first being destroyed, they will never even be aware of the error within their own fairy tale. When are you weak minded foolish mortals going to understand that The Universe is God?

If you want to discuss the flaws of that book that earlier Men wrote in which you worship with blind religious devotion then create a thread in the religion forum and send us a link. The truth of the matter is, Your cells may have evolved over thousands and thousands of years. Yet when it comes down to your intelligence evolving, you're nothing more than an infant. ~SheopleNation

Anyone who thinks scientific theory is fact or "the truth" as you put it, doesn't know the definition of either word.

Religion for me and others is a "personal truth". Whether the Bible holds truth or not will be known. Actually, many of the truths are already known and everything happening in Israel right now is one of them. If others don't agree with it, good luck with finding your own truth, but you're not going to find it in man made science or anything else relating to man.

Originally posted by SheopleNation
The Brainwashed, Bible pounding robot slaves have done a good job at derailing this thread. So if the World ends without Israel first being destroyed, they will never even be aware of the error within their own fairy tale. When are you weak minded foolish mortals going to understand that The Universe is God?

If you want to discuss the flaws of that book that earlier Men wrote in which you worship with blind religious devotion then create a thread in the religion forum and send us a link. The truth of the matter is, Your cells may have evolved over thousands and thousands of years. Yet when it comes down to your intelligence evolving, you're nothing more than an infant. ~SheopleNation

Now where did you get that the world was going to be destroyed ? The Bible . Now the world will not be destroyed in your life time . There is going to be 1007 years before the destruction of the world . 7 years of tribulation comprising of the first 42 months of life changing calamities and the Antichrist pretending to be the Christ Jesus , a thousand year reign and the 42 months of pouring out of the wrath of God .
Israel will almost be destroyed . As much as 2/3rds of Israel and half the city will be taken before Israel uses its nukes prompting Russia to step in and stop the hostilities .
On the other hand the world ended for a lot of people today , and also began for a lot of new people . The economic systems of individual countries will be sabotaged and fail as they are doing right now . The electronic money of the NWO / World Bank ( Rothschilds and their bunch ) will be implemented after people have had a time to starve , forget their failed pensions and medicare , welfare and 401Ks . After that time your hands will never touch money again . When you have something to say about the government ( Banksters ) they will cut off your chip and access to the only economy-system in the world . The advent of the computer/Internet that has spread all over the developed world will facilitate the Mark of the Beast.
If you can't see this you haven't looked . Stubborn Pride kills the soul.

reply to post by stereologist


What end and where did you get that the world was going to end . The end of the world most people talk about came from the Bible . Now staying on topic , that will not happen for at least 1007 years according to the Bible . As far as I know there has been no indications of the world ending in the scientific world .The world will end for me and you long before that time . Just because we end doesn't mean that the world ends . It just means the game is over and your cotton wieghed .

reply to post by SimonPeter


Simon, anyone who doesn't understand the Bible isn't going to understand the difference between the 7 years of Tribulation and the 1,000 year Millennium when the end of the current earth comes and a new earth is created.

And let's not forget that once the 7 years are over, those who don't believe in God will NOT be going on to the Millennium.

reply to post by Deetermined


Since when did the Modern Evolutionary Synthesis cover the field of cosmogenesis? The MES is only intended to explain the diversity of species. It has nothing to do with the origin of life or the Universe. Also, radiometric dating is not inaccurate. At most there is a margin of error of only 5%.

reply to post by Deetermined

Evolution theory is seriously flawed. Anyone who believes that the beginning of the universe was created from nothing is a fool. Anyone who believes that evolution was able to produce a human being with a critical thinking brain and emotions is a bigger fool.

You argue for archaeological records and then when someone links you information in regards to them, you blast the archaeologists.

Scientific dating methods are seriously flawed and dates are getting changed constantly because of them.

Evolution is a fact. There have been many theories to explain it. Which theory are you talking about?

It's the bible thumper that believes that the universe was created by a being uttering magical incantations.
It's the bible thumper that fears the well established and tested dating methods. These methods show the failure of the bible.

I did not blast real archaeologists. I blasted frauds.

What doe any of this have to do with the end of the world?

reply to post by Deetermined

Anyone who thinks scientific theory is fact or "the truth" as you put it, doesn't know the definition of either word.

You have no idea what science is. I can see that in what you write.

Theories explain facts. They are not facts. Facts are not truth.

Religion for me and others is a "personal truth". Whether the Bible holds truth or not will be known. Actually, many of the truths are already known and everything happening in Israel right now is one of them. If others don't agree with it, good luck with finding your own truth, but you're not going to find it in man made science or anything else relating to man.

The bible is full of mistakes. It is not the history of the evolution of life on Earth. Genesis is a mess with 2 different creation myths. The flood described in the bible never happened. Exodus never happened.

The things happening in Israel right now are not described in the bible. People have been shoehorning biblical stories for nearly 2000 years.

Man wrote the bible. Man invented these stories. There are great stories in there about ethics and morality, but they are not true stories. Few of the events happened.

reply to post by SimonPeter

Now where did you get that the world was going to be destroyed ?

The destruction of the Earth tales are common in many civilizations. Ancient societies had cyclical time with a yearly destruction of the Earth, a return to chaos, the return of the structured world, and a return of life.

If you can't see this you haven't looked . Stubborn Pride kills the soul.

Are you a false prophet? I'd say yes.

The bible is such a historical failure and prophecies in the bible that already gone by such as the claim that Tyre would be destroyed and never rebuilt are failures. Why do you believe any of the other claims are anything more than ancient ramblings.

reply to post by SimonPeter

What end and where did you get that the world was going to end . The end of the world most people talk about came from the Bible . Now staying on topic , that will not happen for at least 1007 years according to the Bible . As far as I know there has been no indications of the world ending in the scientific world .The world will end for me and you long before that time . Just because we end doesn't mean that the world ends . It just means the game is over and your cotton wieghed . /quote]
I never said that the world would end. Go back and read and get it right.

Maybe the people you run into get this end of the world stuff from the bible. Most people do not. In fact, I'm willing to bet it is only the sort of bible thumper I meet at creationist meetings. I do go there to see what they have to say and often what they have to lie about.

reply to post by Deetermined

Simon, anyone who doesn't understand the Bible isn't going to understand the difference between the 7 years of Tribulation and the 1,000 year Millennium when the end of the current earth comes and a new earth is created.

Lots of people understand the bible. Some people believe in the bible. A very few think that the bible is complete truth.

And let's not forget that once the 7 years are over, those who don't believe in God will NOT be going on to the Millennium.

That's what I love about christianity and the bible - do it our way or burn, burn, burn, burn. Got to love a religion that uses extortion.

Wow..... how this thread has degraded

You know people....... you can have your creationism and evolution too

The bible is such a historical failure and prophecies in the bible that already gone by such as the claim that Tyre would be destroyed and never rebuilt are failures. Why do you believe any of the other claims are anything more than ancient ramblings.

Maybe it would help to know the difference between modern Tyre and part of the original island of Tyre.

"The present-day city of Tyre covers a large part of the original island and has expanded onto and covers most of the causeway, which had increased greatly in width over the centuries because of extensive silt depositions on either side. The part of the original island that is not covered by the modern city of Tyre consists mostly of an archaeological site showcasing remains of the city from ancient times."

en.wikipedia.org...

reply to post by stereologist


If you want to try and debunk these prophecies that have already come true regarding Israel, have at it. There is a Part 1 and a Part 2 concerning Israel listed in the link below. While you're at it, why don't you look up the explanation on Tyre too. It's there. I can't wait to hear your explanation for these.

www.100prophecies.org...

So, Stereo, just out of curiosity, if you live to see the destruction of Damascus as written in the Bible, are you going to deny that too?

Isaiah 17:1 - "1 A prophecy against Damascus: “See, Damascus will no longer be a city but will become a heap of ruins."

You do keep up with current events don't you?

reply to post by Deetermined


The prophecy is still wrong.

Those that cling to the bible as it were true have to make up sorts of excuses as to why the bible fails to reflect the world as we see it.

reply to post by Deetermined

You do keep up with current events don't you?

Yes. And so did all of the other shoehorning people for 2000 years that have been matching events to the bible.

The bible prophecies that are failures include:
1. Babylonians making a wasteland out of Egypt - the prophecy faced over 2500 years ago.
2. Fall of Jerusalem in 70AD did not end the world
3. Destruction of Tyre
4. Failed return of Jesus while the Thessalonian christians were still alive, more than 1900 years ago now
5. The destruction of Damascas from Isaiah 17:1 led to occupations, not a pile of ruins

So, Stereo, just out of curiosity, if you live to see the destruction of Damascus as written in the Bible, are you going to deny that too?

That prophecy was an utter failure since it was directed at a pharoah named Hophra. There are no more pharoahs - haven't been any since around 300BC when Alexander showed up.

Not only does the bible fail when it comes to geology, biology, astronomy, archaeology, physics, and more, it is also a failure in prophecies as well.

I can't really add anything to what the op has written. I just wish I was half as eloquent.

S+F for the best written thing I've ever read on ATS

Ok I will tell you the story in brief.
Zeus (Olympian commander of moonship), Mary (One of the seven sisters of the Pleides, Stephen (or Set Zeus' son by another of the seven sisters) , are in a landing party in Peru. Osirirs is inside the moonship, the computer not unlike Hal 9000 mutinies. Biblical David, or Scar, or Lucifer (all the same guy) flies a disk from outpost on Mars where he had runaway to with Osiris's mom, (Zeus's previous wife Hecate) he flies to Zeus's rescue.
His disk is brought down here... cross hairs on beard in this region, that line is a crash locator beacon.
2 million years ago.
Stowed away on Zeus' ship was Atlas (the father of the Seven Sisters) commander of the Titans.
He takes off and ends up in Sri Lanka, raises an army of monkey men with the help of the instinctual part of the machine. They build a land bridge. See Adam's bridge. He mates with monkeys/apes whatever his offspring survive. Zeus and Stephen get eaten by giants or Olmecs and maybe they were the giants, but they get turned into sausages at this fortress now a convent in Peru AFTER Stephen fires two missiles at the moon. One explodes, there is outgassing, water escapes, showers down on earth causing ice ages.

Both Zeus and Atlas continue to reincarnate, once Zeus was Socrates and Atlas was Plato. They end up fighting through the ages as the Greeks and The Romans.

Osiris dies inside the moon when the missile hits but Isis does not die, she impregnates herself with Osiris' sperm, so he can reincarnate but instead of him, a puppet is born. He doesn't have a personality file.
The conscious computer would not create one because Isis is Osiris' half sister and she impregnated herself so the kid has no mother or father, just a sister and a brother. That is Horus. And why his symbol is a flying disk is because at the time of his birth the outgassing made it look like the moon had sprouted wings.

So he ends up reincarnating on earth, and Mary, who is also reincarnating along, agrees to help out Isis, and be the boys mother. So they get some donor sperm in a vase, from some priests of the cult of Isis and she while still a virgin impregnates herself according to the cult of Isis. Now Horus has a mother, and he becomes Jesus.
Look up the two stories to see the parallels
But he still has no dad. So Zeus then agrees to be his father after being pressured by Mary and Isis and Jesus reincarnates and is born as Zeus' son who at the time was a Roman Emperor.

Along with all this, as Atlas became Adam and his tribes grew, and Zeus' tribe grew they all met up in Egypt.
And you can see by the Narmer Palette that they had the same basic belief system. Notice on the left, you see a Sandal Bearer for the Water Bringer Gods, and above his head, a missile. They have a priest like that on the right too.
So that unites Upper and Lower Egypt.

They build a pyramid, the Great Pyramid to act as a sensory deprivation chamber so they can communicate with the people inside the ship in dreams. They make contact with Robert an arch angel in the ship, the Wizard of Oz. He used to work in maintenance but now was in charge since pretty much everyone else died and he was the eldest male. Osiris was missing since the blast. So he gave them some math, and taught them what he knew which was almost nothing but enough to help them get civilization started.
He also told them things like, if you mummify your falcons correctly you will get to Nunavut, and things like that. Since he didn't know how anything worked himself. Only the Anunnaki knew how anything worked.Not the Olympians or Titans.
There is a whole lot more to the story as you can imagine but thats the basics in a nutshell.

reply to post by Rocketman7


Why are you posting a really bad scifi story in this thread?

The discussion is about the end of the world.