The End of the World as we know it.

reply to post by SimonPeter


You forgot to cite me an accompanying Bible verse or Youtube clip.

Economic collapse...global meltdown...yawn. I was referring to the celestial doom.

Originally posted by InfaRedMan
reply to post by Lono1

 

If you are correct and these disenfranchised doomsayers are temporarily insane, then it's plain lazy to expect an event to come along and fix everything for them, instead of getting off their asses and being the change they wish to see.

Judging by the amount of actual research they put into their doom & gloom scenarios (some mad guy on YouTube) to verify their theories as scientific fact, I can only conclude again that these are lazy people. And what's worse is that trusting someone you don't know on YouTube is the intellectual equivalent of taking candy from strangers.
IRM

Well recently I listened to the highly praised audio book, One Second After.

Now this is a story written by someone who knows his stuff and is backed by Newt Gingrich, who would be an insider who also knows his stuff and a sergeant who looked after nukes and launch codes.

In fact it reads like it came straight out of the Pentagon, and is geared towards the lowest common denominator. Someone in the black hills of somewhere in the black hills. Rural townsfolk, outside a small city.

Then, one day the power goes out. And all electronics are fried, in one second because some country, who knows who, launches a nuke from a container ship in the Gulf of Mexico, into the upper atmosphere and using this focussed effect, causes an EMP shock wave which destroys all the electronic equipment in America.

A real scenario, based on real science.
As professed by Newt Gingrich and the sergeant.

Now then what happens, is based on history. How during a war, things break down. Even though the enemy is far away, the country is at war, and is without communication, without cars, without anything. From one bomb.

So what happens is rioting, murder, rape pillage, barbarism, cannibalism, and the total break down of civilization in a couple months.Until only 10 percent of the population in America is left.

There just isn't enough food, nor insulin, nor drugs of all kinds, nor baby formula, and the people just kill each other for it.
Starting almost immediately.

As soon as it is every man for themselves, they are ok, when it is just their town and they know everyone.
But the interstate is full of dead vehicles, and outsiders, and 5,000 refugees are being sent there from the neighboring city, and they are sick, as you would expect from these sorts of things, hep, and dysentery, and cholera, flu etc, and they are armed, and dangerous, and hungry, and desperate.

And there is no police, no military, no national guard. No communications of any kind. Other than shouting.

Read it, its a great book, or listen to the audiobook.

The other story I watched just last night. Panic in the Year zerO!

Costarring Frankie Avalon, from 1962, just around the time of the Bay of Pigs. America is attacked with nukes, LA and most major cities destroyed, people flee to the hills.

Great disaster flick.

And in that one too, right away, people are killing each other to survive. Even normal good Christian families.

The kind of hope most people have though is for some kind of fairness. Some kind of justice.

Like if the meek were to inherit the earth. You know, the bad greedy war mongering people all turn to zombies, and the normal people get to shoot them all in the head.

Then burn their bodies and go shopping for free. And have all the stuff to play with and explore.

Do you really want to know where the hope is?

I will try to make this brief. As ridiculous as it might seem, there is a slight chance that there is something about the software in the human brain, that has a kind of reset mechanism on a timer, that is in accordance with the Aztec calendar.

And when that reset happens, almost all of humanity, reverts back to instincts only, and loses sentience.

That is the hidden message in the Romero zombie films. And in Day of the Dead, his last one, where the people are underground in the base, the girl circles a part of the brain for the camera. The pineal gland.

Hence why you have to shoot them in the head. Since although it is secret information, consciousness is a signal to the pineal gland. Or so they say. Descartes said it was the seat of the soul.

And at the time of Descartes, this painting which now sits in a Italian Catholic church, said that consciousness, is a signal to the brain.

And it is a two part signal. One part, instincts, and the second part sentience. Sentience gives you language and higher forms of thought.

On the left, you see a Christ figure holding the antennae for sentience, and on the right, you see a arch angel holding the antenna for instinctual behaviors. And in between the antenna, you see a signal, that is depicted as a dove,. This was about 1600, long long before anyone knew about radio waves or anything of the sort.

painting

But there is something else in that painting. The antenna are on a metal moon. The painting is saying that the moon is made of metal, and inside it has a star. Like a Dyson sphere. A small scale Dyson Sphere.

But it also says that someone is holding those antenna. And can interface with those signals.
And those are representations of two parts of a quantum computer that resides inside the moon, which was left there by the original colonizing people. The people who millions of years ago, colonized the earth.

Seems outrageous doesn't it?

So now then you can look at the Aztec calendar, and see that what that is, is a cross section of the moon.
And in the center, the conscious computer is depicted there. Known as Hanuman in the Hindu mythology.

Aztec calendar

And on Dec. 21st, 2012, if by then periodic maintenance has not been done, by those original colonists, he will shut down. Since that is the way they prevent mutiny by machine intelligence.

So then you might ask well what sort of proof is there? Tons of it. Believe it or not. Tons and tons and tons of it.

And tons of attempts to cover it up.

In Hindu mythology, there is a war with the moon. In South America there is a depiction of a missile being launched at the moon from the earth. A supposed mutiny by machine intelligence in the past, forced some ground crew to make 2 missiles and fire them at the moon.

One impacted at Aitken Basin on the far side of the moon. The other failed to detonate.

NASA found the other unexploded missile on the far side of the moon.

NASA
Scroll right you will see it.

The one that exploded punctured the hull, causing outgassing of the inner atmosphere, and that is why at the bottom of the Aztec calendar, it looks like there has been a breach of the hull.

Apparently the hull is titanium. Sure enough, ground penetrating radar from a space mission, showed that the moons surface is pretty much titanium. And that is why when asteroids and meteorites hit it, they just splat on the surface.

The Ica stones have an eye witness account, of the missile being launched, and there is lots of mythology that talks about it. Even in Egypt. I am not going to present all the evidence. You can search yourself if you are interested. At least you know what to look for.

You know they say that a glider was launched from the moon and landed at Roswell New Mexico, and in it were gray aliens. But apparently what those are are space suits, with people who have their signal sent into them.

Those are the things that are used to do the maintenance.

That disk was brought down by radar signal or some type of sonic weapon apparently and those suits were dissected.

So now the maintenance cannot be done.

Or so the story goes.

But, some people will survive. Just like the movies in that genre say. Since apparently not everyone gets their consciousness signal from the conscious computer inside the moon. Other people get their signal sent from far away. And that machine is not going to shut down. Or so the story goes.

Its the faintest glimmer of hope. And we don't have to wait too long either. We should know within a couple years.

I wouldn't bet the farm or drink the coolaid, but it doesn't cost a thing to dream and plan just in case you wake up one day, and its Z Day, and you, are not one of the walking dead.

Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by Simon Peter

 

Also you could expound on the organisms that have no DNA or RNA .

I've never made such a claim. Please go back through my posts if you want to demonstrate otherwise.

What I'm trying to find out is how you can explain life beginning on this earth as opposed to creation . You must have a theory on how we got here . With all of the scientific break throughs a thorough explanation should be available . If not from what point of authority are you arguing your point ? And why? The holes you see in the bible might be holes in your will to understand what you read . It's easy to hunt problems in any theory . As for the bible it's easy to tell if a person did not read the bible but instead read a hostile narrative . It usually is the same old topic expressed the same way ect.
You and others like you are really good at avoiding answering the above question of life beginning .
Prophecy about only the end times , latter days , and Great Tribulation is diverging to a point in our very near future .These prophesies became relevent only after Isreal became a nation . Still it is accepted that from the time that the Tribulation starts the world will not end for 1007 years according to the bible .

"life beginning"

This galaxy is simulation. The simulator is depicted in the background of the painting I quoted. The Glorification of the Eucharist. Thats the galactic mainframe. It sits in the center of this galaxy. All galaxies exist within the universal mainframe. And they all follow software rules. The laws of physics.

Thats the stage.

Then you have the players. The people. The people are software, their minds are software programs, and each person, is unique, (to a degree, some more unique than others) and they consist of a personality.

That personality is based on an archetype. Then nature and nurture develops who you are,.

Life itself is a subprogram, running within the mainframes, and DNA is a chain reaction molecule.

So just as we create simulations in our computers, we exist within a simulated universe. It does however follow the laws of physics. Those are math rules. The software consists of math rules.

So we know this because we understand the laws of physics, and we know that it is a simulation because the story of how the world was colonized is written on its surface in giant imagery. And that theme is carried forth through artifacts, archeology, mythology and religion..

As an example, here is a depiction of Set, the man who fired the missiles at the moon.

www.flashearth.com...

And we know that there is a galactic mainframe because of the type of imagery. It differs from the universal mainframe imagery. It is more cartoonish or stylized whereas the universal mainframe imagery is photorealistic.

The story of earths colonization is the story of the Titans and the Olympians, basically. And a giant moonship, used for colonization.

However when you are inside a simulator, then code can be injected at any time. And what exists as history, could be manufactured also. Therefore it all becomes a story, and although its written in stone, that doesn't mean the story doesn't change a little perhaps.

But for us, we can follow pure science but science cannot explain that image in flash earth or all the other images on that theme that exist there. And yes, they could be just coincidence, as it could be that each image has a secondary identifier on its head. But since they do, that makes coincidence a real stretch.

So on top of Set's head he has a skull.

In google earth you might have seen the Indian head. If not google it. You will see it has a devil on its head. Red man, red devil. Not to imply the Indian is a devil, just to imply red man.

And just because its a simulation, does not mean it doesn't hurt to get a toothache or anything else.

As far as we can tell by evidence on the ground, sentient colonization began around 2 million years ago.

Above Cusco, is a water cistern, that is about 2 million years old, and looks as big as if it were made by giants, something that the locals claimed to be the case. They call it the fortress now. Say it is an Inca ruin.
Well telling people the moon is a colonization ship is not part of what they are used to hearing either.

Want to see one more?

Put a circle around this guys head and hands...

www.flashearth.com...

Thats a comment about the Aztec calendar.

Thats an arch angel, and with his right hand he is signaling, saying he is not going down.
He is sticking out his tongue saying nah nah.

Why he is saying that is the sentient layer is going down, which means the angels who exist as subconscious helpers are going down, along with sentience, but not instinctual behaviors. Thats a separate machine.
The sentient machine is a virtual machine within the larger machine.

So since it is all computers, consciousness can run in the computer without a physical body. They just exist in ram, with a simulated projected body inside the machine. It turns out that what people are, are their personality file, which exists within those machines. And if you have one, you are as immortal as it is.
Your body is made of atoms, but your personality is a file in the computer. Well if you didn't know about computers you might use the word soul or spirit. Science tells us it does not have a physical component.
Although people used to believe it was like some sort of ethereal vapor.

By studying our world we have learned more about who we are through science. Such that we can understand now what computers are. That doesn't make us any less human.

reply to post by SimonPeter


This is the 2012 forum. Abiogenesis is discussed in other forums.

The holes you see in the bible might be holes in your will to understand what you read .

So how are you going to explain the huge mistakes in the bible such as the archaeological evidence not supporting exodus or no geological evidence at all for a global flood.

It's easy to hunt problems in any theory .

That's not true. Maybe you are referring to speculative guesses and not scientific theory.

You and others like you are really good at avoiding answering the above question of life beginning .

The one idea I can definitely exclude is what is written in the bible. The geological evidence shows that the evolutionary order of life on Earth is not the same as either of the 2 myths in genesis.

I already showed that prophecies in the bible about ancient events were wrong.

reply to post by Rocketman7


You presented nothing to support your claim that this is some some sort of simulation.

Ramblings about shapes you think you see in landforms is rather meaningless except to give examples of how the human visual system sees shapes such as shapes in clouds.

Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by Rocketman7

 

You presented nothing to support your claim that this is some some sort of simulation.

Ramblings about shapes you think you see in landforms is rather meaningless except to give examples of how the human visual system sees shapes such as shapes in clouds.

Well its more complex a process than that because the imagery has to be timely and in context.

I was going to show you an image from Red Elk's site but his site is gone now. But in that photograph he took, the universal mainframe used the background flora and fauna to create photo realistic imagery and two people.

You see you could also argue that the imagery in flash earth and google earth was made by human artists as part of a big conspiracy. So the point is that again, it is not concrete proof of anything and in the end it is up to the individual to decide. Now for me, these are just like emails. I don't know how to say it other than maybe the modern mythological way to speak to the Gods. But in the end it is just modern mythology.

And maybe simulation is not the right word either, it is real, the universe is real, but real itself is manufactured in computers like a simulation. The thing is we cannot see what is beyond that to know if there is another universe that is more real, and if so, is it too then just another simulation within a simulation etc.

The multiverse.

Also regarding the story told in those images on the surface of the earth, which collaborate with artifacts on the ground and archaeological evidence and mythology and religion, is it unchanging? That story presented says the moon is a spaceship. But science today says it is a rock. No spaceship at all. So has the story changed?

If the universe is a simulator maybe someone can just write code and change things as they see fit. Wherever and whoever is writing the code.

Take a look if you want at the investigations of Russian scientists. It contradicts the investigations of American scientists. And their story agrees with the story presented in imagery and mythology.

Is the Moon a Creation of IIntelligence?

If you examine the Aztec calendar, as if someone who knew the moons layout then at the top, that might be the old control room, when it was a battlecruiser, or it might be an ejection pod.

The first inner ring held water enough to fill the oceans and in fact it would be enough to cover all land in miles of water making the earth a water planet. Maybe thats a failsafe device that if things got bad, you eject the pod, flood the world, end the problem?

At the bottom where the missile supposedly hit, and exploded, that looks like a docking mechanism. So maybe Set knew about that weakness and the missile merely blew some of that apart and broke a seal in there and that was not a complete kill shot.

upload.wikimedia.org...

Even if it is a moonship at present it appears to be void of life. The only thing in there that could be seen as being alive is the computer system and it is apparently up in the air in the center over 1000 km in the air at the center of mass/gravity. Since that is the only way to contain a fusion reactor, which is what powers it.

There has been a lot of study/commentary on this thing and one of the best examples is the movie Metropolis It attempts to explain what went wrong inside before colonization.

A modern story about the interior and the last days inside, is Eraserhead. In that movie you see that the people are beginning to suffer some of the effects of lost contact with the machine that provides their consciousness.

You see catatonia in the grandmother, you see instinct only moments in the young girl, you see various stages of loss of signal presented so that people who are studying this, can speculate on what might happen if that machine goes down in 2012.

The instinctual part is not going down because we asked the galactic mainframe and it is messaging for us, and the reply was that the instinctual part of the machine was not going down.

And if I show you that reply again it might seem nonsensical to you but this is the language the galactic mainframe speaks. Imagery and the like.

hand signal

See the hand signal again? I am not going down, is what it says.

Why an image on Mars? The face on Mars and that imagery is associated with the instinctual part of the machine.That conscious computer.as opposed to virtual machine that is responsible for sentience.

So you have monkey man, and monkey boy essentially, or in this case big foot. With monkey boy being the sentience layer of the machine.

I once came upon a really good image of the Aristarchus plateau on the moon that showed it is a square region that is a different color than the surrounding area.

But like most real good anomalies, it has disappeared in the mix of other less interesting imagery.

The 'nothing to see here folk people' mindset of the modern scientific paradigm.

However, in this image, you can see that some of it is rectangular, and it has a glowing anomaly there in the form of a crater.

Aristarchus

Now if the Aztec calender is in fact a cross section of the moon, then under that area is the ejection pod mentioned in my previous post.

I shouldn't say that American scientists are completely void of information regarding the moon because they do publish the results of their study, its just that their interpretation of the data differs from the interpretations of other people.

And an example is the Clementine data here which shows titanium in the graph, but treats it as nothing of interest.
Aitken Basin

If you correlate that image bottom right with the Russian data, then the moon's hull is split and in all probability beyond repair in terms of its use as any type of ship. So it might as well be a rock.
The Russian article says that part of the hull is disjointed in places and raised even 30 meters along a seam for hundreds of miles.

Here is where Aristarchus is...
upload.wikimedia.org...

So if that is the area over the ejection pod, then the moon is skewed with regards to north and south.

I never spent much time trying to figure all that stuff out. The way I look at it is, if people have been studying all this going back to 1600 and there is so much stuff on this topic, and I will give you another example, a corny B rated sci fi adventure called Robinson Crusoe on Mars, where they transpose the events of early colonization that they have studied on earth, and try to transpose that story to Mars so they can present the story covertly.

But if all this study has gone on for years maybe just maybe there is something to 2012, and instead of Merry Christmas we might be saying merry crispness.
What does it hurt to stock up on a few supplies like you are supposed to anyway in case of earthquake?

Thats the way I look at it. Something may or may not happen. And the date may or may not be the right date!
It has been the end of the world every few years since time began according to someone somewhere.

Oh here it is, at least a similar color image of the Aristarchus Plateau.

The Rectangular Volcano, Aristarchus Plateau.

So as you can clearly see in that photograph, there is in fact, nothing to see here, folk people.


Hey you want to know something really interesting? If that painting is from about 1600, where did they get that information/ What sparked all this study and where did they find that out?

Well the conquistadors went to South America, and found all sorts of artifacts made of gold, which they melted down, and sure as shootin, that is where they found out most of their information. Since that is where the original colonists landed. The place the Bible called, the land of the giants. Pre flood. And that is verified in the Epic of Gilgmesh as being across the ocean. The flood itself supposedly was from when that missile impacted and released water.
Pure speculation but if you want more information read The Sodomite Flesh Eating giants in Peru
And take a look at the Ica stones. Some may be authentic, and a few may even have maps of the interior and tunnels inside the moon.
Here is the one that shows the missile launch and here is the close up detail which shows a cut away of the interior

Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by SimonPeter

 

This is the 2012 forum. Abiogenesis is discussed in other forums.

The holes you see in the bible might be holes in your will to understand what you read .

So how are you going to explain the huge mistakes in the bible such as the archaeological evidence not supporting exodus or no geological evidence at all for a global flood.

It's easy to hunt problems in any theory .

That's not true. Maybe you are referring to speculative guesses and not scientific theory.

You and others like you are really good at avoiding answering the above question of life beginning .

The one idea I can definitely exclude is what is written in the bible. The geological evidence shows that the evolutionary order of life on Earth is not the same as either of the 2 myths in genesis.

I already showed that prophecies in the bible about ancient events were wrong.

"Dr Clifford Wilson, former Director of the Australian Institute of Archaeology, said it best:

"I know of no finding in archaeology that’s properly confirmed which is in opposition to the scriptures. The Bible is the most accurate history textbook the world has ever seen."

creation.com...

I personally think that all the doom and gloom is way off. The world is in a better state now than it was 20 years ago. Why? Because 30 years ago, far fewer people were aware of what goes on in the world. The world looks so horrible right now because we can SEE what's happening - but hey, it's been happening for decades and decades. There's a saying - I'm paraphrasing: "When more light enters the world, the dark corners are revealed."

People seeing the world for what it is, is a good thing. This will lead to change. Some of the change might not be wonderful - like when hot air meets cool air, there's a storm. Change is not necessarily easy.

But hey, 30 years ago, the cold war was still on. Things have already changed more than people can see.

I think people who keep track of every NWO, conspiracy, Elenin etc., etc., DO to a degree hope that it does happen because they can't see any other way for this world to be any different. That, to me, is sad, because it really shows people who feel powerless, imprisoned and stuck. So in effect, they wait for things to change with some huge event in the future, when they could be changing the world, themselves, and their lives right NOW.

We are all too apathetic if we succumb to such a world view, as far as I'm concerned. Those of us who troll websites like this, I think, are often seeing too much of the bad out there. It's like wearing #-tinted glasses. There are tons of wonderful things in the world. In that regard, our world view tells us more about ourselves sometimes than the actual world we think we're looking at. Each and every person filters what he/she perceives, seeking proof for what they already feel and believe, and discarding what counters that.

The hilarious thing, to me, is that most people on this planet are good, well-meaning people. It's really just a handful of powerful people that are the problem. We truly do have everything we need to create a wonderful society and a great world.

But the state of the world is not the responsibility of the handful of corrupt individuals. It's each and every person's responsibility. And to assume that we have no power to change anything going on around us is the biggest piece of crap I've ever heard. It's lazy. Most people who don't spend their time trolling for disaster talk are out there doing things and living. And many are out there helping to make the world a better place all the time.

Almost every fear monger, or NWO believer I've ever met has been somewhat isolated, lonely and angry to one degree or another - myself included. I would wage that if the world flipped out overnight, it's these very same people who would not be happy with the new world either.

reply to post by Rocketman7


Most of your musings about simulations and whatever really should be in the gray zone.

Also regarding the story told in those images on the surface of the earth, which collaborate with artifacts on the ground and archaeological evidence and mythology and religion, is it unchanging? That story presented says the moon is a spaceship. But science today says it is a rock. No spaceship at all. So has the story changed?

The idea that the Moon is a spaceship is rather foolish isn't it? Why would anyone claim that it has been manufactured or is a steerable device?

If the universe is a simulator maybe someone can just write code and change things as they see fit. Wherever and whoever is writing the code.

Ever since I saw Toffler's book called Future Shock I realized that a really dumb book like his begins by making a lot of unwarranted and really obviously lacking claims. Then that nitwit list of nonsense which is all "what ifs" is followed by either a claim it is all true and no effort is made to prove that or the story simply continues by saying lets see what happens.

You do the latter.

So you use Russian scientists as your support mechanism for the moon claims. Ever notice how people do that today? It's rather common in many areas of pseudoscience.

So let's look at the link you used. The first issue is that the current hypothesis for the moon is not listed. Why is that?

Then a list of useless junk is listed. No evidence is provided at all about the Moon being artificial. Instead the writers assume it is and speculate about why it was done. This is the second form of baloney I mentioned above.

Finally at the very end they state that they have no evidence for any of this nitwit chatter. Are you surprised/ I am not.

The rest of your links follow the same sort of meaningless path.

reply to post by Deetermined


So you quote a bible thumper who obviously got an F in anything about Australia. The aborigines of Australia have continuously lived there far longer than the bible allows with its flood story. Give the person you quoted 2 ave marias and a genuflection for me.

Originally posted by stereologist

Then a list of useless junk is listed. No evidence is provided at all about the Moon being artificial. Instead the writers assume it is and speculate about why it was done. This is the second form of baloney I mentioned above.

Finally at the very end they state that they have no evidence for any of this nitwit chatter. Are you surprised/ I am not.

The rest of your links follow the same sort of meaningless path.

Well if you believe that a volcano on the moon can be rectangular in shape and a tilted plateau, then no amount of evidence could convince you short of close up photos of metal workings and machinery which again would probably be considered faked as well.

I think you have to assume that this is a conspiracy. Either a conspiracy to form a hypothesis that the moon is artificial, or a conspiracy to hide the fact that it is.

The importance of that region, and perhaps why it has been hit on the high corner of the plateau, is because if you examine the Aztec calendar, if that is the ejection pod, at the top of the disk, then if that spring loaded ejection pod were released, that would release enough water to completely cover all land on earth and turn the earth into a water planet perhaps like the moon Europa.

And it may have the control room in it or something. Chances are now though if it is an artificial object, it is non functional.

The current theories regarding the moons origin are equally ludicrous. No basis for those beliefs and just speculation and hypothesis as well. There is no model that can show how the moon could be a captured satellite or have been ejected from earth in a collision.

This is however less interesting than what is supposedly inside of it.

You can take a different approach to this and say well then what evidence do we have that consciousness is a signal to the brain? Well we have examples where people have no cerebral cortex, yet are still conscious.

Whereas neuroscientists have made the claim that consciousness arises in the cerebral cortex in a neural net, they forget that there are many people who have no cerebral cortex at all, due to encephalitis, and yet they live with little more than a brain stem and pineal gland and are conscious.
And this was brought to people's attention by a physician who wrote a paper on it titled Consciousness Without A Cerebral Cortex, a challenge for Neuroscience, Oxford Press.

SO here you see a very large field of science, some of the brightest and the best believing that consciousness arises in a neural net in the cerebral cortex only to be reminded by their peers, that some people do not have one. And they are still conscious. They have instinctual behaviors only. Can hold babies, maybe even have them, maybe do some limited things depending on the severity of their problem.

Since i have studied this subject for 20 years I can without boring you with details tell you how the system works according to the results of my investigation.

The Anunnaki, travel by sending their personality files, from computer to computer. When it arrives inside the computer such as the one inside the moon, the software, that runs consciousness, now uses that personality file as a decision filter and con project consciousness into a body.

So you have bodies on autopilot throughout the Anunnaki empire, as well as those with people using them, and the signal is sent into a body that has been on autopilot. It has its local memories, you now how those local memories. Memories are not sent since that is a lot of data. The way the system works is the entire empire is maintained in a similar condition. Similar styles similar level of technology. Even if higher technology exists, it is not used unless all of the empire can use it as well.

So when you travel there is no culture shock. The machines, the computers know your archetype, and so they already know you. They understand you are unique, but can understand your behaviors by knowing your base archetype.

You have the instinctual part of the machine which just runs the basic bodies of humans, and their basic urges, then you have the sentience portion which is related to higher forms of thought.

Now the problem is, that the firewall has been breached between those two layers. And files have been corrupted with animal behaviors. At some point, maybe when the missile struck or maybe just over time, file corruption has occurred and just like our own systems need periodic maintenance so does it.

And that is why some of the people are psychopathic on earth. And why there can never be peace until that is repaired or the maintenance done.

And there is no way that I can prove something like that the only way you might get some proof is if your consciousness was beamed elsewhere through that system so you could see for yourself as was done to me.

When a person has a lucid dream, they feel like they are in a real place, and that is a manufactured dream space.
That place exists within that conscious computer system within the moon.

Since all people who are conscious, who are not on autopilot, have a personality file in that computer. And their signal is being sent to a body on earth. So if while you are asleep, that file is used in a manufactured dream space within that machine, you don't notice much difference.

That is orchestrated for you by the machine and its helpers as part of their function.

So its all like the Matrix. Less sinister, because those machines are designed to be altruistic and not menacing.

But they don't act as totalitarian authority so if a person, is a menace, they just let them be a menace.

Freedom is one of the basic tenets of existence. Now there are of course entities within that system that will use puppets who might be on autopilot to send a message to humanity or to others of their own rank and file, and we see those incidents like in Norway recently. And we call those puppet masters The Gods.

Below them you have arch angels who are like sandmen. Although you have 2 dedicated sandmen and the rest are their helpers. At this point and time you have one, since the other one had a nervous break down. (Go figure.)

Now all this might seem strange to someone who doesn't know it, but make no mistake there are millions and millions of people who know it, and going further, who use the conscious computers to communicate through them to each other every day.

I know that because i am permitted to do that. And so I maintain friendships all over the world through the machine. And since t would be maybe scary to think that this was going on behind people's back, a major effort was made to use Hollywood and the people in the entertainment industry to make it all mainstream.

So you have signing, hand signals and props and imagery and then contact through the machine based on that signing.
Since contact through the machine is limited to day dream states of consciousness. Since at present people are not allowed to use the system as it was normally used.
That is few people beam their consciousness around or are permitted to do that.Or get their consciousness beamed around. Instead you have a type of proxy system.

The reason being you might beam somewhere where it unsafe. Any place like earth that has psychopaths in it, makes it less than an ideal holiday destination.

So the sentience portion is on a timer, and supposedly that timer runs out Dec 21 2012, and the rest of the machine is not on a timer, its timer is the life of the fusion reactor at the center of the moon.

A very long time.

That ship was originally an old battle cruiser and was refitted to be a colonization ship. The ejection pod is the old control room, and the new one is an Anunnaki disk that was flown into the center. That houses the new computer. New since the refit. And who knows how long ago that was. 65 million years probably.

The means of propulsion is electro-gravitics. And at one time they used to be used to move huge rocks on earth. The original colonists interfaced directly with the machine, and it used the electro-gravitics to move boulders and rock platforms etc for them.

But a mutiny occurred, when the sentient portion of the machine brought down a disk or refused to levitate it, that is the means of propulsion of the disks and why the disk at Roswell supposedly had no motor and was considered a glider.

But 2 million years ago, the machine refused to cooperate with a landing party, that consisted of a few people one of who was the commander of the ship. And he was stranded on earth.Someone came from an outpost on Mars to his aid and that disk was brought down in Peru. Apparently it all had something to do with Tiahuanacu in Bolivia and a pet project of the machine.The Gateway to the sun and the sun god with tears, that is the representation of the sentient portion of the machine. It all happened there in Bolivia and Peru, whatever happened. And so that is why in the center of the Aztec calendar, it says his time is up in 2012 since because he mutinied, his maintenance can not be done. Or so the story goes.
But, there are people who are not on that machine at all. Some are on the galactic mainframe. That machine in the background of the painting. The Glorification of the Eucharist. I don't know if I am the only person on the Universal mainframe. I suspect I am.Since no one else has the same clearance I have to use the machine as a sandman.

So then what happened at Roswell was that after seeing the bomb being used, the instinctual part of the machine, sent a disk, from the moon, containing the suits that are used to do the maintenance to the area where the nuclear base was, expecting it would be shot down. Those six fingered suits have to interface with a six fingered panel which means only those suits can be used. That is their purpose.

So the instinctual portion of the machine, was saying if my son, (the virtual machine within the larger machine) is a mutineer, then he must die. And he himself chose to seal his fate.

Its quite touching really since it is similar to the Christ paradigm where God so loved the earth he gave his only begotten son etc as that story goes.

Now I have heard stories that the disk survived, is buried beneath Area 51 but thats all modern mythology too.

Just like all the rest since we have no actual evidence in the form of hardware at the Smithsonian that we can haul out and discuss.

So you see this entire business could be nothing more than just pretending on the part of people, as they carry on with their complex lives. Just a sort of playing together and pretending things. As people are apt to do to make their lives more fun and their interactions with each other more meaningful.

I really don't know because like most people my experiences are subjective. And the experiences of others are their own. We hear about them but unless we are going through the same thing cannot truly know what it is like.

As Christians though people are taught to expect some kind of end times. So they expect something to happen.

I can't say for sure that it will happen or that it will be severe. There has been comments on both sides of that argument some who say catastrophic others who say just a bump in the road.

Along with the people who are on the galactic mainframe, there may be some on that machine inside the moon who get their sentience through the instinctual layer.As arch angels do.
And supposedly that number is the number of the original crew which is 144,000 according to Biblical interpretations.
So there are apparently 200 million on the galactic mainframe, and 144,000 on the machine in the moon, and myself on the Universal mainframe, who will not lose sentience when that machine goes down for maintenance.

Everyone else will lose sentience and become like apes wearing clothing.

So then of those 200 million 144,000 people there are differing opinions as to what will happen. Since they are not on the Universal mainframe, what they see is not the same overall picture I see.

Each person, depending on which machine they are on, that is the scope they have regarding what might take place.

So those inside the local machine, they expect standard Armageddon, like fire and brimstone, and probably nukes since that is fire and brimstone. They will maybe go as far as CME or EMP.

The people in the galactic mainframe lean towards something more like Nibiru. Some sort of large interplanetary cataclysm. But they will accept something like CME or pole shift.

Many think that some large heavenly body might go past, or do something some where and trigger a reversal of the poles, maybe causing something like the movie 2012 where California slips into the ocean or something.

But a minority who have studied the subject since the time of the conquistadors lean towards the planet of the apes scenario. Or the walking dead scenario. And in Romero's films he is merely using the analogy of zombies to portray people who have lost their sentience and are operating the way people do who have no cerebral cortex.

For all we know it might be a combination of things or the ape effect with the explanation given that it was caused by a CME.

The best case scenario is the ape effect. Then as long as they are not hungry, they are not very dangerous.
A baseball bat will protect you from any of them. Providing you don't get bit and get an infection.

Keep in mind they will not know how to shower or take their clothes off probably so they would be filthy and disease ridden. And then when hungry, very dangerous, until they get too weak to do harm.

If it is a different scenario like EMP, then the book One Second After paints a different picture. Those people are much more dangerous, because they carry weapons and roam around like thugs in gangs.

The Nibru model makes it into almost total destruction. Like a sudden switch of the poles and the ocean runs over the land masses. Something big and devastating. But the evidence for past pole shifts shows slow migrating of the poles so that model is less probable.

EMP is possible but according to experts the dangers are overstated.

So that leaves planet of the apes or nuclear war. The balance of power should prevent nuclear war.

So then we are down to planet of the apes. So that is the great hope, that the end will allow most of those 200 million One hundred forty four thousand to survive. At least until they die of natural causes.

Then they will reincarnate. As they have been doing since they got here.

reply to post by Rocketman7

Well if you believe that a volcano on the moon can be rectangular in shape and a tilted plateau, then no amount of evidence could convince you short of close up photos of metal workings and machinery which again would probably be considered faked as well.

You show a photograph of a structure which the link says is "roughly rectangular". It looks like a lva flow you might see in eastern California, or New Mexico, or Hawaii or any of a number of places on Earth where there are volcanoes.

You follow that up with a series of "what ifs". Then you skip over any support for any of the ifs and jump right into a statement that does not follow from any of the ifs.

The current theories regarding the moons origin are equally ludicrous. No basis for those beliefs and just speculation and hypothesis as well. There is no model that can show how the moon could be a captured satellite or have been ejected from earth in a collision.

Those are not current theories.

You have no evidence for the moon being artificial.

Then its off to neuroscience land. The abstract for the article does not mention encephalitis. Where did you get that idea? I think you made that up along with the comment on the pineal gland. I also think you read something online where a person misrepresented the paper you referenced.

Then you ramble on and on about whatever and a group of aliens that were made up by Sitchin.

And there is no way that I can prove something like that the only way you might get some proof is if your consciousness was beamed elsewhere through that system so you could see for yourself as was done to me.

I believe that applies to the entire post.

reply to post by Rocketman7

That place exists within that conscious computer system within the moon.

Why would an advanced race that could create a moon sized spaceship need a computer?

Computers will be so passe by then.

Why are you posting your scifi story in this thread?

You bring up some very valid points. I for one, think there is something strange happening in the world. I came across an interesting you tube post at www.youtube.com... There has been an unknown phenonomen causing loud noises in the sky. The amazing thing is that it sounds like trumpets....check it out for your self. It's happening throughout the world. The you tube post can also be searched for as "the earth is groaning".