Anyones Cat Freaking out? [update]

Cute thread. I love animals. I'm from Michigan and my horses have been clingly, which is a little unusual. My cats are normal and so is the dog. It's hard to tell how my raccoon is doing because she is always weird. I have had a buzzing sound in my ears for the last week or so.

reply to post by JustMike


I am in tualatin oregon if thats what your wondering, whose not to say that the cascadia will not or will affect oregon, depending on the size, and there is a giant fault line that runs from Washington down to California, maybe the whole west coast will be obliterated, im just saying, in the past, when this research was done, that u were talking about, was in the past, and in the past we have never had 9.0's or greater, im wondering if a cat can sense it more if something more major is going to happen

might just want to take away the ccat nip its driving your kitty craza!

I was out about an hour ago and i saw these bats flying but they just kept nearly hitting the floor and flying into things they where going crazy seemed pretty odd iv'e seen alot of bats and iv'e never seen them fly so crazy really weird

reply to post by MissCoyote


wish that were the case

reply to post by Sparkzz


whats your location?

Originally posted by JustMike
reply to post by Atzil321

 

Maybe not weeks before, but can be hours or days before. Our member Westcoast, who lives in Washington (state, not DC), has several posts on ATS about the behaviour of her dogs and we could see links between their actions and following quakes in some cases.

While there may be observable links at some times, I do not think this is a constant. As I said above, my pets are reactionary, not preemptive. I live within the City boundaries (Christchurch) so maybe that has something to do with their lack of alertness, but I haven't observed any premonitory behaviour from them. We've had over 8000 quakes in just over a year and from my observations nothing has led me to think that they can sense prior to the event.

I'm not saying that others' pets/animals don't preempt, just that I haven't observed tangible behavioural changes prior to any of the events.

reply to post by dudeguyman


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reply to post by dudeguyman

I agree with you completely. The Cascadia Subduction Zone (CSZ) is a real monster in terms of what it can do. In fact, it's pretty well accepted these days by most researchers in the field, that the subducting plate runs well in under the land there. Out by the coast the subducted plate is about 20 km (12 miles) down, further in near Portland it's deeper -- around 40 km (about 25 miles) down. So beside BC and Wash, it could well cause problems in Oregon and down on into California. In fact some of us have been wondering if it runs a lot further south than scientists currently think it does.

In that map I linked I forgot to explain that there are some features you can bring up on it, including plate depth. Sorry about that. Here's a screen shot of the map with the plate estimated depth lines showing. (Just click on the thumbnail for the big pic):


So yeah, the assumed subducted plate runs very close to you.

Trouble is, as we've never seen a megathrust event along the CSZ, all we have is the geological evidence and oral histories of previous events.

I've said this before in a few threads ATS but I'll say it again here. I'd be happy if the CSZ sits and does almost nothing for another good century or more. It well might. But as we know that the really big quakes there can happen less than 300 years apart and it's been 311 years since the last one, we have to take notice of any signs. Because while it might do nothing for even another 500 years or more (as that's happened before too), it could let go any time.

You're a realist and that's what we need. You're not posting scaremongering BS, you're saying it like it is. If that subduction zone lets go like it did last time then it may very well be the biggest quake that the US has ever seen since it became the US of A. For my side of it, it's not just that I have plenty of friends in the US, all the way down from Wash to Cal, it's that you're all people and you darned well matter!

It doesn't have to be a mega-disaster in human life if people open their eyes like you've got yours open and are prepared. Trouble is, too many are more interested in Dances with the Stars and such stuff and stay ignorant.

Mike

reply to post by aorAki


I would imagine there are huge factors involved.

For example, animals may only sense shallow quakes rather than the deep ones. It could be to do with many variables such as the way the buildings are constructed, how far from the epicenter, if its near water, the type of ground, etc.

I dont think ALL animals can sense earthquakes, but im pretty sure given the right environment/circumstances they are alerted before it happens.

For example in this video, the dog clearly reacts before things start shaking. Its in an office block, therefor the vibrations are amplified....its in a city, so there is more than likely underground pipes and sewers, animals are more tuned into reality than us. We have lost a lot of our natural defense mechanisms as we dont and havent used them for such a long time. Dogs hearing is far better than ours, as is their ability to smell.



Notice how the dog looks down....its like it felt the small vibrations in the building, and reacted by leaving.

Cats are just mad, mine regularly goes mental and attached her self sideways to furniture with the freaky eyes lol.

No animal can sense an earthquake days or hours before it happens. Earthquakes take time to build pressure in the plates...when one slips you get a quake. This pressure is always there.

reply to post by aorAki

It's extremely variable. For example, the ATS member "Westcoast" I mentioned has more than one dog. One of them she refers to as her "big quake dog", because he tends to get nervous and clingy just before major quakes. But she makes the point that her other animals don't react uniformly.

There's also the problem that quakes in different regions can have varying characteristics. I don't just mean differences in magnitude, but also the nature of the actual event: how fast the rupture occurs, how deep the hypocenter is, what sort of strata it's in, whether there is a possible volcanic component or it's purely seismic, what the waves travel through from the hypocenter to where we are, whether there is any associated atmospheric disturbance, via changes in the magnetic field or even increases in rates of IR or radon and so on.

I suspect that some quakes may simply be more easily detectable by some animals than others, but also that how well they detect them (if at all) could be largely a function of what energies are released (pre quake) and how much these energies differ from the "norm" for the location where the animals are.

Best regards,

Mike

reply to post by loves a conspiricy


what i was saying earlier, this we dont know yet, since in the past we have never had 9.0 or greater earthquakes, 6.5 is quite small but a 9.0 is sure to get there attention im guessing weeks maybe months in advance... i watched this vid like 5 times and my cat has done things like this... she looked at the ceiling and bolted the other direction, and out of nowhere is just terrified, idk why, i am only wondering if such catostrophe of an even can trigger there instincts far far in advance, im wondering how the pets were in japan months or weeks in advance, anyone know of anything abou this?

My Norwegian Elkhound once a few years ago, warned us of an Earthquake in UK. He spent two weeks barking at us and trying to get us outside all the time. When an EQ did hit, we didn't feel it but my sister's lightshade swung and she felt the bed move. It was about a 3 mag -TINY!!!!
Boy did he feel stupid. Only after the EQ did I put two and two together.

So my theory is the animal reacts to any odd feeling, not in correlation to the magnitude but how worried that animal is in normal circumstances. My dog is a worrier. Laid back animals probably won't tell you as they will not be worried.

And animals if ignored will not react or tell you next time, if they can feel it. Same with humans, if you keep warning someone and they ignore you, you will soon give up.

I have an EQ ankle, I can feel the earth 'hiccup' and 'burp', and 'buzzing or humming', and just lately I have been feeling 'jolts'. It usually only registers big ones, not less than 5 or 6 mag.
I reckon we might get a big one in 2 days. My ankle told me. LOL

reply to post by AriesJedi


where are u located??

reply to post by 12voltz


I read that they only kill the host when they are stressed...like when someone tries to pull it off instead of it dropping off naturally?

reply to post by LightAssassin


i am in california, my 2 cats acting normal. someone mentioned their cat thinks their owner can control the weather! my one cat thinks if it is raining outside 1 door, it will be sunny at the other door!!!

reply to post by dudeguyman


I have three cats and suddenly two of them aren't eating
as well as they usually do.One is my boy kitty who will
eat anything that doesn't eat him first.I have to give this
cat a snack before I go to bed if I want to sleep!He also
likes to knock my perfume bottles off the dresser if I forget
his bedtime snack!

Just wanted to comment on this thread , here is a link that everyone here should read, to just to get some insight on how animals can sense natural disasters.

biology.about.com...

Another thing is that animals can sense natural disasters before they hit, but there is no conclusive evidence on how they sense the disaster before it hits. Just read the link and it will tell you more than enough, also I live in Canada, BC that's on the West Coast if none of you knew that , but my cat seems fine to me.

If my cat stopped acting freaky, then I'd be worried. Otherwise? Normal state of affairs.

One thing that can develop suddenly in cats, especially males, is urinary tract infections or acid crystals. It can make cats act freaky. My male cat started yowling a lot and acting clingy with urine crystals starting to accumulate and block his urethra. He needed immediate surgery to save his life. He did not look like he was in an emergency condition but I knew how fast and dangerous it could become from hard experience of my friends and other family members with their cats. Sometimes, not always, they will start peeing frequently or strain at it without anything coming out. Sometimes they quit use of the litterbox or avoid it, associating it with pain. They may tear around the house because it hurts to have this condition. Thyroid problems can also make a cat act hyper, but that usually comes on over time and persists. Just pay extra close attention to your cat's use of the litter box while this odd behavior is going on. Make sure when he or she goes to pee, that pee actually comes out and isn't a dribble.

I'm sorry if it's a lot of advice you don't need. I'm not there to see how your cat is acting so I thought just in case, I'd mention this on the off chance it is a health problem.

For what it's worth my cats seem only to react to seismic activity that I also can feel. My dog and my frog were better at giving predictive behaviors. Unfortunately, the frog has passed away.