Official: Iran to send warships near U.S. coast

Always remember people: If the US does it, it's not terrorism.

i was going to link to a thread on ats that had some amazing images of iran showing what an amazing place it is but for some reason every link i try the images are no longer there . i shall post them here anyway. Am a bit concerned that the images for SOME reason are no longer available

www.abovetopsecret.com...

however i did find this link but the images are different to the ones i remember from the above link

www.abovetopsecret.com...

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I wanna comment but I'm so confused right know.
I see 3 nuclear countries that are about to stop the aggressive monster. Iran, China, N. Korea.
I wish I was anywhere except America right know. By a A.F.B traing base on america/mexico border. I'm like a sitten duck on opening day of hunting season.
Honestly we need a worldwide prayer circle going, everyone pray to their god or dirty. Seriously this is bad.
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Iran plans to send military ships near the Atlantic coast of the United States, but offered no timeline or details on the “powerful presence” its naval head promised would be deployed.

List of ships in the Iranian Navy

What could this "powerful presence" consist of??

Well it has 3 SSK Kilo subs, all reasonably modern built in the early 1990's, with a range of 7500 miles, and 1 Nahang class sub built by themselves in 2006 for which it claims "sonar evading capability" - dunno what sort of range it has.

And some 1960-70's vintage ex US & UK destroyers, frigates & corvettes, and a couple of post 2000 domestic built frigates in the 1400 ton range.

The republican guard (Navy of the Army of the Guardians of the Islamic Revolution) has only small ships.

I dont think the US is going to worry about it too much - perhaps they'll get some good practice tracking SSK's out of it!

Relax people, this is purely for sightseeing purposes. Mainly so they know what it (the US coastline) looks like and where to aim, next time....

On a slightly more serious note, I'm sure they are as nervous as everyone else is. Then again, I guess they ain't called International Waters for nothing. Warships or merchant ships, its still just a ship going about its shiplike business.

I mean, imagine if you lived in Korea. Both sides have this border constantly manned with alert, fit, armed, trigger-unhappy forces. They can see the whites of each others eyes, literally. Iran are just the newest members of The Club but the news didn't quite filter down to us yet, all the more kudos to ATS that they are so quick.

Now back on deck men, I believe an Alien Attack or other similar catastrophic event is imminent...

Whoa this is big......www.youtube.com...

It does not matter if Iran does not have a real fleet to station near US coasts. It is enough to have 1 platform ready to launch missiles. Iran knows the 'fleet' would be no threat to the entire US. But imagine it getting off even one missile at a major US city armed with a WMD. Does not even have to be nuclear - chemical would do nicely.

The only problem I see for Iran is that they must get off the first shot. If US wants to start trouble with Iran, they are smart enough to take out this missile platform before Iranians have a chance to launch. So this ship or fleet can only be a first-strike weapon. When Iran feels that escalation is probable, it will launch.

Originally posted by CountDrac

The difference is that the U.S is not run by Muslim fanatics who still stone there women to death for adultery and treat their own people like animals.

Oh what a American Christian man doesn't come home from work to find his wife in bed with another man and then stabs her to death???? Adulty brings out the best in all races and religions right?

As for treating people like animal's,what are your police doing to your own citizens in Wall St as we speak?

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You're right we just bomb countries and kill citizens, anyone have a death toll on the innocence who have been killed due to the war in Iraq? or Afghan?

Originally posted by SeleneLux

Originally posted by CountDrac
reply to post by shadowcorp

 

Such a shame that iran will suffer the might of the US army because of their stupidity...

You mean like the type of stupidity that makes us patrol Iran's shores with our fleet?

Uh I think we drew first.

Whats wrong with them doing it back?

Beause it is suicide!

We do not want to see them get hurt.

Like telling a baby not to touch the hot oven only to watch
in fear when they defy your order and touch that stove and get burnt.

Must love seeing people die, the statement made was ignorant.

Iran is not dumb enough to send a missile into the U.S.
You do know that would be an act of war and the U.S military would
have to nuke them. Good by Iran.
Like RON PAUL said let them do something
stupid, then it will give us the reason to finally get rid of the hitler of our time
AHMADINIJAD

I'd be more worried about what the 'real' motive here is.
Is this just a case of an Iranian navy showing their bravado, or is this exercise something more sinister?

A distraction maybe..

Originally posted by wlord
Iran has war ships??

Yup there like $10 and they come in a bottle

Originally posted by Alphard
It does not matter if Iran does not have a real fleet to station near US coasts. It is enough to have 1 platform ready to launch missiles. Iran knows the 'fleet' would be no threat to the entire US. But imagine it getting off even one missile at a major US city armed with a WMD. Does not even have to be nuclear - chemical would do nicely.

The only problem I see for Iran is that they must get off the first shot. If US wants to start trouble with Iran, they are smart enough to take out this missile platform before Iranians have a chance to launch. So this ship or fleet can only be a first-strike weapon. When Iran feels that escalation is probable, it will launch.

We have missiles built for intercepting missiles now, and faster ships.

Also, aircraft can shoot down missiles.

Originally posted by Nobama
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You're right we just bomb countries and kill citizens, anyone have a death toll on the innocence who have been killed due to the war in Iraq? or Afghan?

I'm glad you mentioned that. There are, believe it or not, organisations that do monitor that kind of "statistic", It goes roughly something like this though...

Take official army war casualties, add a zero or two to that number. Then, maybe, add another one or two zeros. Thats how many. In any case, way too many. War is futile. Lucrative, politically motivated and usually short lived? That too, but still... Viva la Rivoluzione!

Originally posted by nutzmctaffy
That would be hard going across the ocean in paddleboats

Correct.

The iranian "navy" is quite incapable of the kind of force projection necessary to station their "ships" near the U.S. coast. Where are iran's fuel tankers and air support?

Only way they could even pretend to do this would be to return to a cuban port often for refueling and re-supply. Would cuba really want to get involved with something like this? Maybe venezuela would, but their ports are a lot farther away, making the iranian's on-station time even shorter.

I wouldn't be surprised if someone even created "an app for that", so the world could laugh while tracking the iranian "fleet's" actions.

Even funnier, I read recently where the iranians have numbered their "fleets" to make it look like they're tough. I think each "fleet" only had 3 or 4 ships in it ...

Originally posted by lbndhr
I see 3 nuclear countries that are about to stop the aggressive monster. Iran, China, N. Korea.
I wish I was anywhere except America right know. ..

I think that you should move. I would encourage it.

Personally, (and if I were you) I would move to Iran, or China or even North Korea. For these three nations are bastions of free speech and tolerance and acceptance of human rights. Don’t worry you won’t be missed because there are literally millions of Iranians, Chinese and North Koreans who have fled these nations and others who would (if allowed) flee at the drop of a hat for your vacated space.

Only by getting off your bottom can you really appreciate what you have. Life is easy staring at a computer screen and complaining that you are hard done by.

Regards

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They aren't that stupid, they often make these bold threats to please the Ayatollah, and the rather large religious following they have in Iran, and in the Muslim world.

They've also foolishly fallen for the claim that (false) larger allies of Iran will back them up in the event of hostilities from the USA... But that will not happen, Iran is a sacrificial lamb, in that regard... The USA would be wise to NOT be provoked.

Ask yourself one question... Who has the most to gain from provoking a confrontation between the USA and Iran?

Also... Who wants Iran destroyed by war the most?

If you've answered those questions correctly... Then you should know, nothing will come of this.

Originally posted by centurion1211

Originally posted by nutzmctaffy
That would be hard going across the ocean in paddleboats

Correct.

The iranian "navy" is quite incapable of the kind of force projection necessary to station their "ships" near the U.S. coast. Where are iran's fuel tankers and air support?

Only way they could even pretend to do this would be to return to a cuban port often for refueling and re-supply. Would cuba really want to get involved with something like this? Maybe venezuela would, but their ports are a lot farther away, making the iranian's on-station time even shorter.

I wouldn't be surprised if someone even created "an app for that", so the world could laugh while tracking the iranian "fleet's" actions.

Even funnier, I read recently where the iranians have numbered their "fleets" to make it look like they're tough. I think each "fleet" only had 3 or 4 ships in it ...

Come on GET REAL, get with the PROGRAM BUDDY!!

You forgot about the LATE GREAT FAKE PHOTOSHOPPED Iranian MISSILE LAUNCH!!

It really is stupidity. Iran is flexing tiny muscles in the face of a heavy weight monster. Even if Ahmadinejad is just trying to prove a point about American arrogance, he is putting the lives and well-being of his whole country at risk!

Not to say that he should back down to imperialist threats, but by openly threatening the country that is currently foaming at the mouth, looking for an excuse to bite down, he is inviting in destruction. He knows his military is no match against American might. Realistically they have no chance in a ground war, so why try to bait one?

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Iran has nothing to fear from the US. There's an enemy far more devious hiding behind the curtains: Germany. I have posted the following on one or two related threads, but it is pertinent to your comment too:

Germany wants to attack Iran. Germany has a shopping list to achieve a surprise attack:

- European economic unity through an engineered Euro crisis, with EU members handing over their sovereignty
- This will pave the way for a huge European Defense Force with a new HQ somewhere in Europe by the end of this year if you believe Catherine Ashton
- a German/Saudi led military coalition of a group of Arab nations
- EDF (and/or UN) military presence at strategic positions in the Middle East
- nukes on the ready: French, British, Pakistani nukes borrowed by the Saudis, whatever they can get their hands on.

Unfortunately, Germany can only get all parties on board if the Palestinians get their West Bank and East Jerusalem. Israel would never have that, because the land belongs to God and they can't give away God's land, as they see it. But the Israelis are in a mighty pickle: surrounded by enemies and not enough protection. So they will agree to a swap: land to the Palestinians in return for German led European protection. Their chiefs of staff have already cozied up together and made strong joint statements to warn off Iran.

Will Angela Merkel pull it off? After all, she promised us two things by this autumn: 1. economic unity in Europe, and 2. a Comprehensive Middle East Peace Agreement. Her very own words. Spoken earlier this year.

(This post was originally intended for the thread about a scheduled NASA news conference and an ESA seminar on the 29th of September) I find the ESA seminar far more ominous than the NASA news conference. ESA = European high tech defense. All decision makers together in one handy place on the day the German Bundestag votes on economic unity through some cleverly crafted 'rescue' package, and who knows, will the UN Security Council have finished their back room negotiations on the same day and be ready to vote on Palestinian independence, the lynch pin of the deceptive Comprehensive Middle East Peace Agreement, which is nothing more but a huge military alliance to attack Iran?

The date: 29th of September. Or to be more precise: in the dark of night after sunset.

Dare to think the unthinkable. Inspired by Peter Woolford's book The Genesis Grid, which predicts something major happening in the night of the 29th of September. A headline grabbing event which will involve power, the end of an empire and the beginning of a new one, and fraud & deception and finance. A major power will be cut down, through fraud, deception and hidden powers.

Watch the night after the 29th of September. Watch the Bundestag's vote. Watch the UN vote in New York. Because I think the delegates to the ESA seminar will.

I have all the links pertaining to Merkel's statements, the joint Israeli-German chiefs of staff, the Saudis borrowing Pakistani nukes, even the German/Saudi trade officals joking about the idea of calling this military alliance a 'peace agreement', but I am writing this way after my bedtime. So please check these aspects for yourself: don't believe me, believe Google! (Peter Woolford explains his book in great detail in his regular radio interviews at X-Zone radio. It's all archived on their website)