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reply to post by Saltarello
What terrorists? Those 19 of wich half are still alive? They say they had no clue, condy stated no one could envision that, yet there is that report with the towers and a plane, not to mention the 9/11 drills. You were not attacked, at least not by external forces. And no, YOU did not allow it to happen.
Originally posted by Gando702
1. The building was hit by a plane far larger than the original design when the towers were engineered and constructed. To say that they shouldn't have fallen because they were designed to withstand a hit from any plane is a bit ridiculous.
Originally posted by Calex1987
but yet there are tons of engineers who will look at you and go the fire wasnt hot enough to explain the molten steel pouring out of the side of the building jet fuel alone and office supplies do NOT burn hot enough to do what your saying its been proven....and they are the first steel structure's to actually "collapse" because of fire...please if your so inclined tell me why a building that burned for 18hours straight stayed standing...it must of went threw way more hell Considering it burnt for 18hours over what 54 mins? you say your wife is an architect.....well then even she could tell you she didnt know for a fact it would come down...or the fact she really thought it would since a fire has NEVER taken a steel structure down..... i would love to argue every point of your new found belief but it would be pointless...edit on 20-9-2011 by Calex1987 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Human0815
I share some Points with the Op. because the Inner-Core of the WTC was very, very small
compare to the Building.
(which wasn't big in the Basement either, only high!)
The Plane cut through the Building in a easy manner (because there was not much Resistance)
and destabilized everything,
the damaged and de-stablized Inner-Core get heated up with expansion of the Steel
and loosed the Stability, finally the Pancake-Effect happened!
But than it + WTC 7.got blown up because of Security Matters
S.& F. because of having Eggs in the Pantsu!edit on 20-9-2011 by Human0815 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by wardk28
reply to post by MrWendal
Here is a question; how many controlled demolitions do you know of where the rubble burned for months afterwards? Controlled demolitions are used to remove old buildings and for the most part build a new one where the old ones stood. Builders don't want to wait months to start working on a new building for the fires to go out.
These towers were designed to survive the impact of planes even bigger than the ones that hit them. And to think that fire from paper burning was enough hot to weaken the beams to cause the collapse is laughable at best. And you can't include jet fuel because even that doesn't get hot enough and all of it went up in the fireball when the planes hit.
Originally posted by MrWendal
Originally posted by wardk28
reply to post by MrWendal
Here is a question; how many controlled demolitions do you know of where the rubble burned for months afterwards? Controlled demolitions are used to remove old buildings and for the most part build a new one where the old ones stood. Builders don't want to wait months to start working on a new building for the fires to go out.
I agree..which now begs the question, why did the pile continue to burn for months? Jet fuel does not burn for months either.
Houston we have a problem.
2. A 1000 degree Fahrenheit fire is not intense enough to weaken steel. Even if the impact zone steel was weakened, it's hard to imagine a giant fire ball racing down the elevator shaft with enough heat to weaken the entire steel of the building.