The Sum of all Fears : What if Elenin is Nibiru?

reply to post by Theophoros


This paper has been discussed ad nauseum on here and its scientific credibility has been found lacking. To touch on all the errors contained within it one would need to write a paper just as long. While I'm sure all of the errors haven't be discussed yet, this thread did a good job of touching on the most glaring ones.

Saturn rocking back and forth?? What if CW Leonis were really Nibiru? Link inside.

reply to post by Theophoros

Because, more people read this section then the other ones.

No they don't.....but that is irrelevant, if you had the proof you claim to have, which you don't, then it does not matter where you posted, posting that proof, if it were legit, would have seen your thread on the front page.

reply to post by Pilot

Not really a link but you can check the numbers yourself. The orbital diagram is a poor tool. The "alignment" occurs on September 27th at about 04:00 UTC.

Here is the ephemeris for Elenin at that time, showing where the comet (or what's left of it) will appear in the sky by Right Ascension and Declination:
2011-Sep-27 04:00, 12 13 01.75, -01 24 39.8

Here is the ephemeris for the Sun at that time:
2011-Sep-27 04:00, 12 13 08.50, +00 44 36.3

Note that the R.A. (in hours, minutes, seconds) is only about 7 seconds off. Note that the Declination (in degrees, minutes, seconds) is off by a bit more than 2º. That doesn't sound like much but when you consider that the Sun is about 1/2º across it is clear that Elenin will not transit the Sun. It would not even "touch" the Sun unless were more than 2 million miles in diameter. From our point of view it will pass more than 1 million miles "above" the Sun.

You can get the ephemerides from the JPL website.

When you are driving down the road, and a moth is in the other lane, does the moth's gravity pull your car into the other lane? Elenin will have as much gravitational influence on the Earth as a mosquito does on an ocean liner. Actually a mosquito would probably have more influence on Earth than a mountain sized rock several million miles away.

Originally posted by Theophoros

Originally posted by syrinx high priest
isn't nibiru planet x ? the thing that was supposed to collide with earth in 2003 ?

Yeah - Nibiru is Planet X - you know, the planet that they sent Pioneer X to investigate back in the 80's.

That's the spacecraft that they put the picture of the man and woman on with directions back to earth.

Now, why would NASA do such a thing?

Were they expecting to make contact with Planet X?

from what I can tell, pioneer 10 was launched in the 1972 and has never left the solar system (yet). if there really was a planet sized object in our solar system, we could detect it by it's gravitational influence on the other planets.

it seems to me the elenin/nibiru/planet x is really just a hodge podge of bad astronomy

Nibiru is not due in our vicinity for another 1600 years

Originally posted by bottleslingguy
Nibiru is not due in our vicinity for another 1600 years

Well thats comforting news! I won't be here...................I'm transitioning into the 4th dimension on Oct 28 2011

Originally posted by Theophoros

Originally posted by roughycannon
Well thats all geat but elenin disintegrated earlier this month as it came too close to the sun, being made of rock and ice it fell apart...

Find me a video of that, if you could please...

Comet elenin break up

google

reply to post by Theophoros

The choice for the title was because the Insiders Fear - what keeps them up all night - is if the people in mass start fearing something more then they fear the Insiders themselves - at that point the Insiders lose the ability to control the masses.

Sometimes, it really doesn't pay to invest yourself in a comment here that doesn't stop at the door.

reply to post by Bex33


I would rather sleep than listen to someone who's whole theory rest on you tube video's and GLP as reference material. I am all for theories...sometimes theories produce great moments in science but wild speculation is not even close to a good movie. This one would wind up on the cutting room floor.

Someone else posted this in a elenin thread.
Its was pretty good to me.

Originally posted by RoswellCityLimits
You got Elenin in my Nibiru!!!

You got Nibiru in my Elenin!!!

Two great fakes that fake great together!!!

First off Nibiru isnt fake as more planets are been discovered in our solar system as for Elenin well that one is sure a strange comet i will give you that much.

Can't wait till October / November when this all ends, one way or another.

Originally posted by favouriteslave


E L E N I N

Extinction
Level
Event
Near
Impact
Nibiru

I think the code is supposed to be

Extinction
Level
Event
Nibiru
In
November

Remember "Leonid Elenin" includes the "Leonids" meteor shower which peaks in November of each year. So, the date is in his first name. Also "Leo" is lion or king, and "Ele" is Lord, so "LEO ELE" is "KING LORD" i.e. the King of the Lords, i.e. Jesus returns in November ! He cometh with clouds...And every eye shall see him....hmmm..

Originally posted by rigel4
Omg ...............
omg
omg

Whats wrong with you op?

It's just a little comet , nothing special about it, by comet sizes it's just a small weener
with no special thrusting techniques.
Now that we've cleared that up.............

Carry on

I wouldn't call a ball of rock and ice that would IF IT WERE to hit earth, leave a 4000sqrkm Killzone and a 40km crater a Weener....terminology is just as bad as Nasa's "wimpy"

lol sorry pet hate .... Meteor Crater, study it...and that in the Nasa-esc style of terminology is a "ikle bikle wan" 50mtr

reply to post by DRAZIW


Let's also not forget that Leonid was also the first name of Soviet Premier Leonid Brezhnev and that Jelenin is a town in Poland. So, if we put it all together, Jesus is going to return in November in a town in Poland and he's a Communist.

Originally posted by Phage
Since Nibiru does not exist

edit on 9/13/2011 by Phage because: (no reason given)

How do you or any of us know for sure it doesn't exist?

Science has proven that brown dwarfs exist in our galaxy, what if Nibiru was a known brown dwarf and the 3600 year cycle thing was just a myth or legend created in association with just a regular comet or a planet such as Jupiter by mistake?

Sort of like an ancient seeing today's planes might call it a steel bird or something.

Also....

Which Phage are you? Did the all too serious guy typing under that account take a coffee break or something?

reply to post by Theophoros


Just read the hopi prophecy about the blue kachinga and the red pacifier, its interresting.
Might give you some info. But in the end you have to conquor your own fear. if you have no fear then it dosn't matter what happens.