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Aliens are not intergalactic they are demonic.

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posted on Sep, 13 2011 @ 06:09 AM
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isn't it insane that this guy has a belief that earth is the only thing that is good that god created and everything else is EVIL! or DEMONIC! hahahahhaa ......why would your GOD create only a small blue planet of goodness and create everything else to be DEMONIC? it doesn't make sense?



posted on Sep, 13 2011 @ 06:11 AM
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and by the way this is just based on my knowings and awakening ..... do not believe a word i say.



posted on Sep, 13 2011 @ 06:21 AM
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Originally posted by gortex

Originally posted by Haxsaw
WOW, 16 pages of people trying to bash the OP, looks like they are preaching harder than the OP himself.

Not really , looks to me like they're bored with this growing Aliens are demonic trend , this is the second thread by the OP on this same subject .

And many are bored with some peoples faith in evolution in it's entirity too, and?


Originally posted by gortex

Originally posted by Haxsaw
He's just presenting a couple of videos from people who have studied the phenomena

But if those video's feature a less than credible source , ie Chuck Missler ( google his name and false prophet )
then surely that debases the argument .

If a liar says 2+2=4, does it mean he's lying? obviously not, so in answer to "surely this debasses the argument"; no it does not.


Originally posted by gortex

Originally posted by Haxsaw
and then you say the religous folk are trapped in a box. Hypocrite much.

Aren't they ? , surly this is a prime example , seeing other life in the Universe through the prism of biblical teachings would seem to back up that assumption .

I think pretty much everyone here would fall under that category one way or another. That is to say that even seing other life in the Universe through the prism of faith in evolution(which most definitely requires faith to believe in its entirity) also backs up that assumption, everyone has got some pre-conceived idea of whats what that makes them biased, whether they admit it or not.

As I said all I see is people trying to shoot down the theory and then giving us their point of view which is based on no evidence at all. Pretty lame if you ask me, it also makes them come across as blind preachers, which is exaclty what they are accusing the OP of.

Considering, one would have to prove aliens and demons even exist before proving that aliens are actually demons, I have to have a huge LOL @ the imbeciles spamming this thread with comments like, "hahahah, yeah right aliens are demons, it's obvious they're not"....seriously...what a complete and utter fail.

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posted on Sep, 13 2011 @ 06:24 AM
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This thread shows some serious arrogance.

Please consider that you are human, and have little to no idea what the Universe and all that dwell therein are 'about.'

You and Christians in general have this idea that there is not only some way for all of God's thoughts to be contained in a two thousand year old, heavily edited book, but that you are equipped with the ability to fully understand His divine will for all things.

Get over yourself, and realize that you truly understanding God's will is like an ant understanding from which company your tennis shoes came from.



posted on Sep, 13 2011 @ 06:32 AM
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So our proof is a religious sermon...?

So the point of the thread really is aimed at the already religious, the secondary point is to eliminate the idea of extra terrestrials and install a fear of them as demons.

Pardon me but can religion take a day off and allow science and sensible thinking in for once, you know you want to...

Surely god has a bingo game to go to?

FACT: logic dictates there's life out there, the odds suggest it could be more evolved than us or less, depending on your choice we COULD be visited or have been visited by this other life.

FANTASY: Some being called god created the world in 7 days and sent his son to us for to be killed and resurrected, in between doing wonderful miracles and getting his mates to part the waves etc etc etc

All this without a shred of proof bar scripture of various sources cobbled together to form 1 of many versions of the 'bible'.

All this in an age of story telling.

Also science disproves the creation claims.

So, for me anyways, we have an OP trying to convince his fellow worshippers that ET is Demon based wholly on a ranting minister doing shows.

Its not as if these ministers don't profit from this, maybe he does a bit of healing on the side for when times are tough.

Sorry OP, all you have done is prove to me that many are rabid Christians, willing to sway anything into a godly item, sort of a Godly 'One size fits all' way. Good luck with your belief but I feel you are the victim of religious fraud.
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posted on Sep, 13 2011 @ 06:43 AM
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Ohh Joy Another Aliens are Demons Thread




1 ) Demons are Fallen Angels! out of the thousand apoun thousand Angels the One's you Don't hear About
The Unknown

2 ) Angels are Aliens ! Elyon Too the Sumerians it called ( which to me all Mediterranean North African religion is pattern based on) the Anunnaki Those from Heaven to earth came !

Alien Elyon hmm .... What a Coincidence

ELYON
en.wikipedia.org...

3 ) We have that Alien Angel Demon in US too ! its in the DNA that 3 to 4 Percent Unknown Difference that Apes Nor any Other Species on this Planet has !

Well isnt the Biggest Demon of them ALL Satan also Known as Lucifer
Gods Highest Angel that Stood Beside the Hebrew GOD ! well thats until Lucifer Rebelled ! Against this Hebrew God and Lucifer/Satan had a Holy Angelic War with God ..




A Sumerian Babylonian Angel ANUNNAKI
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/53054cda2732.jpg[/atsimg]

ohh Look he has Horns ! Well a Horned like Helmet ! and Holding a Pine Cone he must be a Demon

well there is a Big Pine Cone in the Vatican

THe Sumerian Bird reptilian Head Demon or is it an Angel!

The Dilumn Sounds like Demon

Dilmun was allegedly the name of a bird headed creational god - Sumerian gods who allegedly came to Earth from the planetoid Nibiru


So what the Heck is this a Angel or Demon! from this Sumerian Cylinder Roll Out !

I say Angel ! !! !!




Dliumn God & Alien Connection
www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

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posted on Sep, 13 2011 @ 06:43 AM
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Originally posted by Haxsaw

As I said all I see is people trying to shoot down the theory and then giving us their point of view which is based on no evidence at all. Pretty lame if you ask me, it also makes them come across as blind preachers, which is exaclty what they are accusing the OP of.

Considering, one would have to prove aliens and demons even exist before proving that aliens are actually demons, I have to have a huge LOL @ the imbeciles spamming this thread with comments like, "hahahah, yeah right aliens are demons, it's obvious they're not"....seriously...what a complete and utter fail.

edit on 13-9-2011 by Haxsaw because: (no reason given)


I like to think that If the universe can create a species that can figure out how to leave its planet once, it will do it again to an infinite amount.

I can prove that you exist, therefore the universe creates sentient beings. What I can't prove is souls, devils, demons,gods,angels all that religious mythology.

What seems like an utter fail is taking a supposedly physical/dimensional entity and claim they are evil evil demons from a far away land, and when they come we should act like scared monkeys and get guns to try and fight the demon spawn IN THE NAME OF JEEEEEZUZ.



posted on Sep, 13 2011 @ 06:52 AM
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Originally posted by Wolfenz

Angels are Aliens ! Elyon Too the Sumerians it called ( which to me all Mediterranean North African religion is pattern based on) the Anunnaki Those from Heaven to earth came !


yeah, exactly. i wonder what kind of threads the future generations of mankind will open in online forums when they discover ancient dvd's and books of the lord of the rings. "ohh lookies! the mighty gods have pointed ears, we were right dammit!"



posted on Sep, 13 2011 @ 06:56 AM
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All of this is very interesting.

Mind you, it's all something I've heard before.

Aliens could be Demons, yes, but it's all based on belief. Christian Scholars and Scientists (what better way to be hypocritical) will do and say anything to keep their slowly fading Religion alive.

The Generation of Humans that are at this moment young and full of beans, bow down to a different God, Technology and Entertainment.

Religion is taking a back-seat to Entertainment, and really, why shouldn't it?

Free will is, after all, a given, according to the Christian faith.



I am interested, though, in what you think about your own Messiah, Jesus Christ?

Some have said that he is an Alien.


In fact, he could even be the Devil, the liar spoken of in the Old Testament.

Think about it, what better way to fool the world than pretending to be the Son of God?



Don't think that I'm trying to fan a Trolling-Flame, but one plus one isn't always two for everybody..



posted on Sep, 13 2011 @ 07:00 AM
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Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
If you are denying demonic possession then you are ether in denial or not very well educated.


People are evil. Period. Learn to deal with it, without bringing fictional forces into it. Some people are evil for a reason, usually material one. Some are just sick, ab-normal, and commit atrocities, without understanding what are they doing.

There are people out there, great deal of them, which would kill you for your shoes. Are they possessed? Nope, theyre just mindless, emotionless deviants.

Besides, it's in best vatican's interest to spread rumours about exorcisms, quietly of course.

I know there's no point whatsoever in discussing this with you, logic is one thing religion never will be comfortable around.
Let me ask you a question.
Who created devil? Who created demons? What can oppose true will of god? There you have it.



posted on Sep, 13 2011 @ 07:13 AM
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As we are our mixing aliens and demons.

the Qur'an mentions the Jinn as being made by God from Fire, and humans made of earth. Mohammad Asad's 'The meaning of the Qur'an' has an appendix which explains the Jinn as used in the Quran: Extract Below:

see underlined text

On The Term And Concept Of Jinn (appendix III)
In the usage of the Qur'an, which is certainly different from the usage of primitive folklore, the
term jinn has several distinct meanings. The most commonly encountered is that of spiritual
forces or beings which, precisely because they have no corporeal existence, are beyond the
perception of our corporeal senses: a connotation which includes "satans" and "satanic forces"
as well as "angels" and "angelic forces", since all of them are "concealed from our senses".
In order to make it quite evident that these invisible manifestations are not of a corporeal nature,
the Qur'an states parabolically that the jinn were created out of "the fire of scorching winds"
....
The term jinn is also applied to a wide range of phenomena which, according to most of the
classical commentators, indicate certain sentient organisms of so fine a nature and of a
physiological composition so different from our own that they are not normally accessible to our
sense-perception. We know, of course, very little as to what can and what cannot play the role of
a living organism; moreover, our inability to discern and observe such phenomena is by no
means a sufficient justification for a denial of their existence. The Qur'an refers often to "the
realm which is beyond the reach of human perception" (al-ghayb), while God is frequently
spoken of as "the Sustainer of all the worlds" (rabb al-alamin): and the use of the plural clearly
indicates that side by side with the "world" open to our observation there are other "worlds" as
well - and, therefore, other forms of life, different from ours and presumably from one another,
and yet subtly interacting and perhaps even permeating one another in a manner beyond our ken.

And if we assume, as we must, that there are living organisms whose biological premises are
entirely different from our own, it is only logical to assume that our physical senses can
establish contact with them only under very exceptional circumstances: hence the description of
them as "invisible beings". Now that occasional, very rare crossing of paths between their life-
mode and ours may well give rise to strange - because unexplainable - manifestations, which
man's primitive fantasy has subsequently interpreted as ghosts, demons and other such
"supernatural" apparitions.

aliens could fit with the last sentence and the other worlds?
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posted on Sep, 13 2011 @ 07:17 AM
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Playing into their hands? Let me see... If I were illuminati who would I rather have as my slave? A pesky conspiracy theorist who questions everything and denies ignorance or a good little "Christian" who believe blindly and without question in fairy tales and nonsense? Hmmm... Such a hard decision....



posted on Sep, 13 2011 @ 07:22 AM
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Often aliens and demons are the same thing, though at times they are two different things.



posted on Sep, 13 2011 @ 07:22 AM
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Originally posted by SilverStarGazer
reply to post by RevelationGeneration
 


Playing into their hands? Let me see... If I were illuminati who would I rather have as my slave? A pesky conspiracy theorist who questions everything and denies ignorance or a good little "Christian" who believe blindly and without question in fairy tales and nonsense? Hmmm... Such a hard decision....

illuminati play both sides

why only profit from demons
when you can profit from both?



posted on Sep, 13 2011 @ 07:31 AM
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I hate to post the same question but it seems like everyone ignored my post about "Childhoods End" Somebody out there has to understand what I am talking about, right? I think Arthur C. Clarke understood EXACTLY what all this demons/aliens talk is all about...



posted on Sep, 13 2011 @ 07:46 AM
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This kind of theory only says that,there are some people who still thinks we are some special beings in the Universe,and the Earth is the center of Universe.


Give me a break.
I still can't believe the OP got this much of flags stars for nothing!
This thread is nonsense.



posted on Sep, 13 2011 @ 07:46 AM
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I so have to agree. Every few days there is another new thread claiming all aliens are demons, with no proof at all that any of this is true. Why do they keep it up? one wonders, when there are so many ETs and ET/Human hybrids living on the planet right now, perhaps eve next door to the good bible thumper. Little would they know. Little also would they know that demons were mostly made up by the Church, for obvious reasons, and that 90% of the demonic books were authored by the Priests.
But, sadly, you cannot tell a Christian anything, they know it all already. I guess God must have told them.



posted on Sep, 13 2011 @ 07:47 AM
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Originally posted by adamjagger11
isn't it insane that this guy has a belief that earth is the only thing that is good that god created and everything else is EVIL! or DEMONIC! hahahahhaa ......why would your GOD create only a small blue planet of goodness and create everything else to be DEMONIC? it doesn't make sense?


God created everything perfect and Good, according to Genesis. He created beings that had free will, and some of them chose to bring evil into the world. If you wish to argue "sense" you need to educate yourself on what you are arguing. If you choose not to believe anything in the Bible that's your free will choice, but don't try to pick and choose arguments from what you have not studied.


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Why is it underlining everything?
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posted on Sep, 13 2011 @ 07:51 AM
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I know man , i was just saying it as an example because the person said earth is the only place where good is and everything else is demonic. I know it's all about free will. I agree with you.



posted on Sep, 13 2011 @ 07:53 AM
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If you look at the evidence the demon theory must be considered.
1. The abduction syndrome goes against any notion of free will and includes the forcible removal of persons from their homes, the forcible removal of genetic material and the forcible insertion of radio frequency producing devices.
2. Lack of direct disclosure to citizenry of earth in spite of thousands of sightings and very advanced tech. I assume the tech available to galactics would offer them the ability to use television, radio, etc to contact individuals in their own language and circumvent politicians who prove to not have citizens best interests at heart nor moral highground to represent us.
3. One of the largest groups advocating the "aliens are our friends" theory is the Galactic Federation of Light" who disseminate their information not through open traditional modes of two-way conversation but instead veiled "channeling" preventing the receiver from using all of their faculties of logic and discernment.

Furthermore, one of the most widely read sources, Salusa of Sirius, states the GFL is about to remove the "corrupt" leaders of the world and replace them with new leaders chosen not by the citizens of the world but by "ascended masters" including St. Germaine, an entity who was never canonically sainted but described as a magician able to conger spirits. Alliester Crowley focused many of his public sessions attempting to communicate with the same St Germaine.

The problem with the entire debate is the lack of empirical evidence. Everything is rumor, innuendo and hearsay. Until they land and speak openly, everything is debatable.



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