Satanists are not evil - neither is Satan (the conspiracy of the Churches)

reply to post by ADMX101


Thank you. I was so inspired by being here that I added a new article to my blog. LINK God knows how to turn our hearts toward truth when he knows our hearts are close to His love. Hope your suffering produces reward.

One more thing that I know about the direction suffering takes. Reward follows suffering no matter how it is produced. Even when we suffer from taking reward, God knows how to correct our path and set us on the straight and narrow way to the pillars of stability in life. God Bless.

The most amusing part of the OP is its incoherence. The word "Satan" comes from the Hebrew bible and means "accuser" as a noun and became a proper name during the intertestamental period for a rebel angel opposed to God and humanity. To argue against the Bible is to undermine the very source of the term. You have no reason to believe in Satan if you deny the Bible, you cut off the branch of the tree you were sitting on.

my own research has shown me Christianity is not "2,000 years old" as they try to claim it is. From what I personally believe, Christianity arrived with The Inquisition.

This is hilarious. We have Christian documents 1000s of them dated from the second century AD. Your "research" is no research at all. Look up Justyn Martyr, Irenaeus, Clement of Rome, Polycarp etc etc.

Better yet read what Justin says about Satan: www.ccel.org...

reply to post by PapaEmeritus


With the Vikings vs. the Christians, The Christians were trying to convert the Vikings away from their own beliefs.
Beliefs that the Vikings didn't want to have any part in. In that time the Christians were trying to convert all Pagans. It was either convert - or die. The Anglo-Saxons would have rather died.
My point is that it was converting by the sword. So the Vikings fought back.

I look at the bible like this.... It must have bad parts in it, otherwise it would be a lie... as we can see from the day we live in, nothing is always peaceful and everyone does not live in harmony. So to say the bible condones murder and other atrocities is a load of garbage. Bad things have happened in the past and will also happen again in the future.

How do you know that these people were not fighting for their lives and are just telling there story to the best of their knowledge or in a way we cannot comprehend, as time goes by, things also seem to get muddled up. If everything was good and peaceful in the bible would you also believe it? No, It doesn't matter what is written in there, people will not believe it anyway. Whether murder, stonings or any other bad issue arise, take a look at today and see how very much in common we have with the bible. Remember most or all of it is based in the middle east, has much changed it that part of the world today? No.....

The same things are happening and also the bad ones in the countries we dont seem to get along with. I believe that the bible may be correct, this world is never completely peaceful and the bible is stating that also.

Originally posted by NZkraw
reply to post by PapaEmeritus

 

With the Vikings vs. the Christians, The Christians were trying to convert the Vikings away from their own beliefs.
Beliefs that the Vikings didn't want to have any part in. In that time the Christians were trying to convert all Pagans. It was either convert - or die. The Anglo-Saxons would have rather died.
My point is that it was converting by the sword. So the Vikings fought back.

Not really... You are confusing Charlemagne's empire building with missions. The missionaries didn't harm the Saxons but the French army did. Also the Vikings raided the Christians unprovoked. For instance the Vikings invaded Ireland in the eight century and attacked the Northumbrian monasteries in England in AD 793.

reply to post by Redevilfan09


You have a very mature and well thought out view. The Bible reports what did happen, not necessarily what God wanted to happen. God does not like wars but evil makes them necessary some times. Most of the laws he gave to the Israelites were in response to sins. Do not kill, Do not steal, etc etc. The Bible reports all sorts of evil events because it is presenting the truth that man is fallen and sinful. In fact, it accounts for the existence of evil better any other worldview.

People say that jesus is all that's good? Really? Read this...
The Nazarene was slothful, indolent and lazy.
He never worked like everyone else.
He freeloaded and lived off the work and labors of others.
He was a rude and unappreciative guest who often insulted his hosts.
He STOLE and ordered others to do so.
He condoned and advocated MURDER.
He is one of the worst hypocrites who ever existed.

Wow, I'd like to know where you got all this information from? A thread like this, should be moved to the "Rant" forum.

I'd like to know when Jesus insulted his hosts...When he stole, etc.

It'd be a good time to insert Bible references right about now.

reply to post by lonewolf19792000


Your posts are good, and to the point.
But, when you mention sacrificing babies, and rape e.c.t, e.c.t. There are so few cases where that has actually happened in Satanism - true Satanism (extremist to me). There are numerous more examples of those doings in the holy bible.

Originally posted by SmoKeyHaZe

People say that jesus is all that's good? Really? Read this...
The Nazarene was slothful, indolent and lazy.
He never worked like everyone else.
He freeloaded and lived off the work and labors of others.
He was a rude and unappreciative guest who often insulted his hosts.
He STOLE and ordered others to do so.
He condoned and advocated MURDER.
He is one of the worst hypocrites who ever existed.

Wow, I'd like to know where you got all this information from? A thread like this, should be moved to the "Rant" forum.

I'd like to know when Jesus insulted his hosts...When he stole, etc.

It'd be a good time to insert Bible references right about now.

There are no references for what hes claiming...

And the ones he attempted to give on page one were invalid.

reply to post by SmoKeyHaZe


My information on the quote "worst hypocrites who ever existed" is from when i was reading the bible myself.
If you have a bible in your house, here are the passages.

He LIED...
John 5: 31
31 (If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true).

He STOLE...
Luke 19: 29-35
Luke 6: 1-5

He ADVOCATED and ENCOURAGED MURDER...
Luke 19: 27

One of the worst hypocrites that ever lived...
Matthew 5: 19
19 (Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven).

Matthew 10: 34-36
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father and the daughter against her mother and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

Preaching of self mutilation...
Matthew 19: 12
12 For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it. (A Eunuch is a castrated male)

CRUELTY TO ANIMALS:
Matthew 8: 30-32
30 And there was a good way off from them an herd of many swine feeding.
31 So the devils besought him, saying, If thou cast us out, suffer us to go away into the herd of swine.
32 And he said unto them, Go. And when they were come out, they went into the herd of swine: and, behold, the whole herd of swine ran violently down a steep place into the sea, and perished in the waters.

No individual in history has been provided with more excuses. Twisting, warping, distorting and outright lying of what this entity taught and did is commonplace among those who are deluded, sympathetic and/or just plain stupid.

Many argue that this entity never existed and/or is unimportant. People who maintain these opinions are as deluded and foolish as those who believe the nazarene was a righteous individual. The effects this creature had upon humanity has permeated every aspect of the society in which most of us live. There are millions and millions who worship this creature and promote him at every level relentlessly. The impact this entity has had upon humanity is horrendous. Nearly every war there has been has been fought for RHP religious purposes. Millions and millions have severe psychological disorders and hangups which prevent them from living a healthy normal life.

Those who take a stand for personal liberty and freedom are incessantly battling christians in the courts as they relentlessly and obsessively work to deprive every last man, woman and child of their freedom and their lives.

reply to post by Akragon


"There are no references for what hes claiming"
Im a She...

Originally posted by NZkraw
reply to post by Akragon

 

"There are no references for what hes claiming"
Im a She...

Alright, there are no references for what devil lady is claiming...

Happy?

Delete please

reply to post by Akragon


Well that's better then being called a he
Have you heard of evilbible.com ?
www.evilbible.com...

Originally posted by NZkraw
reply to post by Akragon

 

Well that's better then being called a he

Have you heard of evilbible.com ?
www.evilbible.com...

Sorry about the double post...

Yes actually i've read over that site many times. Most of it is probably true, though the references are about the men that wrote the bible not God, and certainly not Jesus.

Every reference you'll find on that site about him is taken completely out of context. Though i won't deny some of the references to what has happened to people because of what is written in the bible.

i really, really can't wait for humans to give up belief sytems in favour of knowledge !! This thread merely increase my desire for an end to religion and belief systems and lowers my expectations for humanity.

Originally posted by Hopeforeveryone
i really, really can't wait for humans to give up belief sytems in favour of knowledge !! This thread merely increase my desire for an end to religion and belief systems and lowers my expectations for humanity.

you'll be waiting for a long time my friend...

That is something that will never happen... Similar to the idea of world peace...

Just a dream

reply to post by Akragon


So true, Maybe evolution will help us out here and in a million years or so a genuinely intelligent primate will show up. Untill then lets all speculate about crazy stuff

reply to post by Akragon


Thats ok, i dont mind the double post.
That is true that there are references to god. But, it is true to the sinful nature of humans. I dont doubt that most of it was really in context. If it was god that they believed in, and if they knew that what they were doing was wrong, would they have refrained from doing it?
I also take the perception that the men that interpreted the dead sea scrolls might not of got the right interpretations, that can lead to it either seeming good; or seeming bad. Just another dilemma of life?

reply to post by Bigwhammy


answers.yahoo.com...
The best answer post is by a European History researcher