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posted on Sep, 11 2011 @ 01:32 PM
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That's because we're trying to win hearts and minds.
Personally, I'm all for carpet bombing. Then send flowers and a letter of apology.
But that's just me.


"win hearts and minds"???? Yeah, right.
The carpet bombing bit didn't work once... wont work again.



posted on Sep, 11 2011 @ 01:36 PM
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Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
reply to post by beezzer
 




That's because we're trying to win hearts and minds.
Personally, I'm all for carpet bombing. Then send flowers and a letter of apology.
But that's just me.


"win hearts and minds"???? Yeah, right.
The carpet bombing bit didn't work once... wont work again.


We just need bigger carpets.



posted on Sep, 11 2011 @ 01:40 PM
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The carpet bombing bit didn't work once


Go ask those guys who are now partying with their 72 virgins.

They might tell you otherwise.



posted on Sep, 11 2011 @ 01:40 PM
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Meanwhile, back at the ranch...




You're normally part of the crowd that cheers when there IS a "Confirmed kill of US/NATO" troops.

Play both sides of the fence much when it suites your pathetically veiled agenda?



posted on Sep, 11 2011 @ 01:42 PM
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It's an occupation. We came and helped the Afghan Northern Alliance kick them to the curb and never looked back.


And the Northern Alliance, that you "helped" are doing a FANTASTIC job of transforming that country into what the US government wants it to be, aren't they?



posted on Sep, 11 2011 @ 01:47 PM
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Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
And the Northern Alliance, that you "helped" are doing a FANTASTIC job of transforming that country into what the US government wants it to be, aren't they?


I wouldn't say FANTASTIC but I'm glad you admitted it's doing better than when it was under Taliban rule.

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posted on Sep, 11 2011 @ 01:48 PM
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Go ask those guys who are now partying with their 72 virgins.
They might tell you otherwise.


Nobody recognizes an American victory in Afghanistan. Not even the American government.
Now go and tell that to the families of dead US troops.

America has become the new Soviet Union.



posted on Sep, 11 2011 @ 01:48 PM
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Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
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Go ask those guys who are now partying with their 72 virgins.
They might tell you otherwise.


Nobody recognizes an American victory in Afghanistan. Not even the American government.
Now go and tell that to the families of dead US troops.

America has become the new Soviet Union.



You forgot about the idiots celebrating our victory in this thread.

Justice = Just Us, because you killed everyone else.
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posted on Sep, 11 2011 @ 01:50 PM
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Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
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People seem to forget one thing. If the Taliban had given up Bin Laden, we may (I know, key word) not have gone in at all.

But we'll never know.


Actually the Taliban offered to hand over Osama Bin Laden. But George W. Bush rejected the offer and continued with the war.


www.guardian.co.uk...


Fail to read your own link before posting it?

That's not an offer to hand bin Laden over to the US, it's an offer to discuss handing him over to a third party IF the Taliban's demands were met.

Unfortunately, they were not in the position to be making any demands at all by that point.

When negotiating from a position of strength, it's best to have the ass in place to back your "strengths" up. Otherwise, your position of "strength" is seen for what it is - bluster.



posted on Sep, 11 2011 @ 01:50 PM
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I did not admit anything.
Ive been following this "war" ever since it began....and its pretty clear that the taliban are stopping the US war machine in its tracks.



posted on Sep, 11 2011 @ 01:54 PM
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Originally posted by MasterGemini


Justice = Just Us, because you killed everyone else.


Works for me!



posted on Sep, 11 2011 @ 01:55 PM
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Ive been following this "war" ever since it began....and its pretty clear that the taliban are stopping the US war machine in its tracks


Guess you ain't following it close enough. The only thing stopping the US war machine is the politicians in charge. If it wasn't for them you would see a different type of war.



posted on Sep, 11 2011 @ 01:56 PM
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That's not an offer to hand bin Laden over to the US, it's an offer to discuss handing him over to a third party IF the Taliban's demands were met.


The Taliban were willing to negotiate... its more than what anyone expected from them.
Bush, on the other hand, had his sights set on a war from the beginning.... a war that time showed could never be won. The Taliban are not responsible for the dead of the Americans... Bush is.



posted on Sep, 11 2011 @ 01:59 PM
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Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
reply to post by SLAYER69
 


I did not admit anything.
Ive been following this "war" ever since it began....and its pretty clear that the taliban are stopping the US war machine in its tracks.



I'm sorry but the rebuilding of their economy after years of Taliban rule still continues.. I haven't seen anybody mention the reconstruction effort presently taking place...
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US Soldier guarding School reconstruction
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Australian Troops rebuilding bridge
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Or modern Kabul 2011
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Kabul Shopping Mall
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A site near a famous shrine in Kandahar that is now beautifully constructed. Hundreds of people visit the shrine every day and then come here for a relaxation.
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I remember what the Taliban did to another Shrine...
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Now women in Afghanistan can work and get an education again...
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Kabul Broadcasting...
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Hey...
Football is being played at the Football stadium again instead of being used to execute women.
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posted on Sep, 11 2011 @ 02:00 PM
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The only thing stopping the US war machine is the politicians in charge. If it wasn't for them you would see a different type of war.


Glad you've found a scapegoat in the politicians, friend. If that provides relief from losing to a bunch of guys in turbans and 10 year old AKs.... so be it.



posted on Sep, 11 2011 @ 02:03 PM
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All thats lovely.

But tell me... how well do you think the US has performed.... in terms of defeating the Taliban?
Despite 10 years of fighting?



posted on Sep, 11 2011 @ 02:03 PM
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Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
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I did not admit anything.
Ive been following this "war" ever since it began....and its pretty clear that the taliban are stopping the US war machine in its tracks.

Actually, it's the weak-kneed sissies in D.C. that are stopping the "war machine".

Left to just the commanders on the ground, we'd have this thing wrapped up in no time.



posted on Sep, 11 2011 @ 02:08 PM
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Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
reply to post by SLAYER69
 


All thats lovely.

But tell me... how well do you think the US has performed.... in terms of defeating the Taliban?
Despite 10 years of fighting?



It's an occupation...

Do you understand the meaning of the term and all it's ramifications? I'll give you a clue. They can fight us and they can kill some but they cant make us leave until we choose to do so. Unlike the Soviets who lost 5 times as many in a much shorter amount of time who were shown the door and given a very lovely parting gift.



posted on Sep, 11 2011 @ 02:10 PM
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Actually, it's the weak-kneed sissies in D.C. that are stopping the "war machine".
Left to just the commanders on the ground, we'd have this thing wrapped up in no time.


This is not the first time Im hearing people blame the sissies in D.C (the ones who started this useless war) for the armies failure to defeat the taliban.

As if the commanders on the ground are being ordered to restrain their men from killing the enemy.
If they can drone-bomb villagers from the skies, they can bloody well fight the talibs on the ground.



posted on Sep, 11 2011 @ 02:11 PM
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Glad you've found a scapegoat in the politicians, friend. If that provides relief from losing to a bunch of guys in turbans and 10 year old AKs.


Tell the politicians to take the gloves off so you can witness what our military is Really capable of doing.

Then you can start a thread about how ruthless we can be.



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