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Taco Bell and KFC want your food stamps
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Originally posted by OptimusSubprime
reply to post by muzzleflash
Or better yet, imagine if the government would stop stealing private property by way of the tax code from its citizens, and all of that money was left in the private sector for people to do with as they saw fit. That would also help poor people, and the government would have nothing to do with it.
If there were no more tax thefts, than we wouldn't have that many poor people left would we?
So instead of paying half my $ in tax, then having to apply for "welfare" to get my 50% of my money back, they could just cut all the red tape and stop taking the $ in the first place.
Than I wouldn't be poor and wouldn't feel the need to beg the govt for my money I earned back in the first place anyways.
You are 100% correct about that one.
I doubt we would really even have a poverty epidemic in the first place if we were free and not enslaved into a system of credit with huge interest % to make up for our lost tax $.
reply to post by muzzleflash
You said exactly what I wanted to say. I was kinda in rant mode and typing on my phone. The government and their stealing from us is what makes us poor. Not the people on foodstamps buying freakin TACO HELL or chips or soda.
What really gets me is these people who think they should decide what people on foodstamps can purchase. If the card allows it its nobodys gd business. Like I said isn't this the exact thing this web site is about besides "deny ignorance" we don't wanna be watched and told what to do. I mean there are rules for foodstamp recipients to follow they don't need your holier than thou ass standing there yelling at them because YOU don't like what they buy.
If I had foodstamps and some ass tried to say something to me about what I was buying I would flatten their ass for sure. God you people that act like this are really remarkable.
You said exactly what I wanted to say. I was kinda in rant mode and typing on my phone. The government and their stealing from us is what makes us poor. Not the people on foodstamps buying freakin TACO HELL or chips or soda.
What really gets me is these people who think they should decide what people on foodstamps can purchase. If the card allows it its nobodys gd business. Like I said isn't this the exact thing this web site is about besides "deny ignorance" we don't wanna be watched and told what to do. I mean there are rules for foodstamp recipients to follow they don't need your holier than thou ass standing there yelling at them because YOU don't like what they buy.
If I had foodstamps and some ass tried to say something to me about what I was buying I would flatten their ass for sure. God you people that act like this are really remarkable.
reply to post by acmpnsfal
I'm not sure if you meant to type the word 'make" before pizza and cheesesteaks.. but I do not think that pizza is an unhealthy food. A pizza with veggies,tomato sauce ,cheese.. is as healthy as roast beef and mashed potatoes...or lasagna.
I would be surprised by this if there werent already taking advantage of food stamps. There are a couple in my neighborhood who make pizza, cheesesteaks, and other unhealthy food. How do they get around the prepared food thing? One has a motto on their take out menus 'You buy it raw we cook it for free' its genius but sad.
I'm not sure if you meant to type the word 'make" before pizza and cheesesteaks.. but I do not think that pizza is an unhealthy food. A pizza with veggies,tomato sauce ,cheese.. is as healthy as roast beef and mashed potatoes...or lasagna.
edit on 7-9-2011 by gabby2011 because: (no reason given)
This is bring the government bailout to a whole new meaning well it will not really, really be bailout, because is just food stamps been used,
right? hell our private food sector is really cashing up on the corruption of Americas system.
They want a piece of the tax payer bailout pie.
They want a piece of the tax payer bailout pie.
Just imagine it now...
In order to create a 'social utopia' and eliminate poverty, we created a government bureaucracy to tax us and then give us back our money through welfare so that we would be richer.
But the problem occurred when we had to pay overhead costs $$ on our social project so that we may tax ourselves then grant ourselves food stamps so that we could all have some Taco Hell for dinner tonight.
So then after we paid for the paperwork fees, fuel, salaries, etc etc, we only had 80% of our wealth value left to be taxed, and then started anew with more tax programs to increase more revenue but ended up just blowing another 20% of overhead costs alone.
Wash, rinse, repeat for about 100 years and then the entire freaking population is poor as heck, has barely any buying power left, living according to their credit scores, just trying to make this months bill payments on time...
All our wealth went into overhead costs $. The funniest part is that the same folks who support legislation that enacts taxation all over the place, are also the most likely type to find a tax haven like the Cayman's to stash their loot. Strange coincidence that is.
In order to create a 'social utopia' and eliminate poverty, we created a government bureaucracy to tax us and then give us back our money through welfare so that we would be richer.
But the problem occurred when we had to pay overhead costs $$ on our social project so that we may tax ourselves then grant ourselves food stamps so that we could all have some Taco Hell for dinner tonight.
So then after we paid for the paperwork fees, fuel, salaries, etc etc, we only had 80% of our wealth value left to be taxed, and then started anew with more tax programs to increase more revenue but ended up just blowing another 20% of overhead costs alone.
Wash, rinse, repeat for about 100 years and then the entire freaking population is poor as heck, has barely any buying power left, living according to their credit scores, just trying to make this months bill payments on time...
All our wealth went into overhead costs $. The funniest part is that the same folks who support legislation that enacts taxation all over the place, are also the most likely type to find a tax haven like the Cayman's to stash their loot. Strange coincidence that is.
reply to post by muzzleflash
I tell you what, we are truly turning into nothing but a welfare run state, use tax payer money to recycle debt, but then at the end who is going to pay for anything if everybody is on welfare and minimum wage jobs.
I don't get it.
I tell you what, we are truly turning into nothing but a welfare run state, use tax payer money to recycle debt, but then at the end who is going to pay for anything if everybody is on welfare and minimum wage jobs.
I don't get it.
Originally posted by marg6043
reply to post by muzzleflash
I tell you what, we are truly turning into nothing but a welfare run state, use tax payer money to recycle debt, but then at the end who is going to pay for anything if everybody is on welfare and minimum wage jobs.
I don't get it.
God, Jesus, and the Aliens.
Now we should just forget all of this and go watch some good TV.
And make sure by all means, no one look at that guy behind the curtain printing all of that electronic credit to constantly fill the black hole. It won't hurt us if no one realizes that the inflation and deflation rates are manipulated, it's for our own good.
The zombie apocalypse already happened folks. Welcome to the twilight zone.
reply to post by Domo1
that's fine if you have light and gas, what about the ones that do not have them, some no gas, others no lights, and a few that have neither.
Some of us are frugal and keep the gas off only when needed, keep the light's to one bulb cook one time a day.
edit on 7-9-2011 by bekod because: editting
swiss devaluing frank
Ok so, the Swiss Frank is overvalued. Interesting...
What?? So it's worth even more now?
Even though they are trying to inflate it so it will be devalued?
Where do you expect gold prices are heading now that even Swiss gets to the business of devaluing its currency? $1,800 an ounce?
The measures taken thus far by the Swiss National Bank (SNB) against the strength of the Swiss franc are having an impact. Nevertheless, the Swiss franc remains massively overvalued. The SNB has therefore decided to expand again significantly the supply of liquidity to the Swiss franc money market. In so doing, it is increasing the downward pressure on money market interest rates with a view to further weakening the Swiss franc exchange rate. With immediate effect, it aims to expand banks' sight deposits at the SNB further, from CHF 120 billion to CHF 200 billion. In order to achieve this new target level as quickly as possible, it will continue to repurchase outstanding SNB Bills and to employ foreign exchange swaps. Furthermore, the SNB reiterates that it will, if necessary, take further measures against the strength of the Swiss franc.
Ok so, the Swiss Frank is overvalued. Interesting...
Swiss franc in fact rose against dollar and euro immediately after this announcement!
What?? So it's worth even more now?
Even though they are trying to inflate it so it will be devalued?
edit on 7-9-2011 by muzzleflash because: (no reason given)
I can use my food stamps at any convenience store. While I will say the quality of Taco Bell and KFC aren't leaps and bounds above 7-11,still, you
really cannot get real food at a convenience store. I can buy a freaking snickers with food stamps, for Pete's sake!
So I can go out in the hellish heat looking for work all day, busting my butt to try and get a job that's not there, and at the end of a grueling day of being rejected and yelled at for even attempting to ask for a application, when I'm hungry, tired and miles from home I can't go in and get a couple of tacos?
Control freaks, the whole lot of you. What ever happened to this concept of freedom? Who the hell are you guys to tell me what to do with my life? You think I WANT to be on food stamps in the first place? If only I could get a job but that's futile.
Now, I will say this, If TB or KFC can take them, who is to say some restaurant that is much more expensive gets in on the act. Should food stamps be used for a steak and lobster at a fine restaurant?
A bit of a slippery slope it is. I'm not sure where I stand on the whole thing, really. Convenience stores are full of junk yet it's usable there, not at fast food, where I could get, oh, say, a salad. Not too terribly bad for ya, right? Then there is Stevia, which is classified a supplement(or whatever the term is) and I cannot use food stamps to buy that but I CAN buy crap sugar(which I don't want nor use). So I can buy a sweetener that is for all intents and purposes bad for me yet I can't buy a sweetener that is good for me?
The rules don't make much sense, but the people who make the rules are fools. Proven fact for those with the logic gene.
You know what? I would gladly grow my own food, if I could, but I live in the desert and it's hard to do without start-up money and I have none. I could grow quite a bit on the bit of land I have here and would even give it away, doing something that is useful for myself and humanity. See, though, I'd probably get arrested for violating interstate commerce laws by doing that.
So I can go out in the hellish heat looking for work all day, busting my butt to try and get a job that's not there, and at the end of a grueling day of being rejected and yelled at for even attempting to ask for a application, when I'm hungry, tired and miles from home I can't go in and get a couple of tacos?
Control freaks, the whole lot of you. What ever happened to this concept of freedom? Who the hell are you guys to tell me what to do with my life? You think I WANT to be on food stamps in the first place? If only I could get a job but that's futile.
Now, I will say this, If TB or KFC can take them, who is to say some restaurant that is much more expensive gets in on the act. Should food stamps be used for a steak and lobster at a fine restaurant?
A bit of a slippery slope it is. I'm not sure where I stand on the whole thing, really. Convenience stores are full of junk yet it's usable there, not at fast food, where I could get, oh, say, a salad. Not too terribly bad for ya, right? Then there is Stevia, which is classified a supplement(or whatever the term is) and I cannot use food stamps to buy that but I CAN buy crap sugar(which I don't want nor use). So I can buy a sweetener that is for all intents and purposes bad for me yet I can't buy a sweetener that is good for me?
The rules don't make much sense, but the people who make the rules are fools. Proven fact for those with the logic gene.
You know what? I would gladly grow my own food, if I could, but I live in the desert and it's hard to do without start-up money and I have none. I could grow quite a bit on the bit of land I have here and would even give it away, doing something that is useful for myself and humanity. See, though, I'd probably get arrested for violating interstate commerce laws by doing that.
edit on 9/7/2011 by TheLoony because: (no reason given)
reply to post by TheLoony
Sorry that you have such a hard life, in our nation the motto of living the American dream is nothing but an "oxymoron" to justify illegal immigration.
Still the reason tax payers can tell those on welfare what to do (or at least attempt) is because the welfare system falls on the working tax payer class that do not receive or qualify for assistance, they work pay taxes but see nothing in return.
So don't feel bad about this is you are one of the few that has fallen on hardships and at least look for a job.
Sorry that you have such a hard life, in our nation the motto of living the American dream is nothing but an "oxymoron" to justify illegal immigration.
Still the reason tax payers can tell those on welfare what to do (or at least attempt) is because the welfare system falls on the working tax payer class that do not receive or qualify for assistance, they work pay taxes but see nothing in return.
So don't feel bad about this is you are one of the few that has fallen on hardships and at least look for a job.
reply to post by marg6043
To be totally honest Marg, I gave up on trying to get a job from a corporation and am now in the process of "creating" a job, so to speak. All I have left are my meager musical talents and I've been back in town long enough to meet some people and get something a going.
Since, you know, I'm obviously not capable of delivering pizzas in my hometown of over forty years.
In other words, I'm going about it unconventionally but it's all I have left. Corporations won't hire me as I have bad credit(thanks in most part to the international banking cartel), I haven't worked in almost two years - strike two - and I'm over forty and not moldable - STEEEEEERIKE THREEEEEEE - YER OUTTA HERE!
But whatever, the control freaks know better than I do about my particular situation, just like they know all the particulars of every single person out there who is on food stamps and must be evil, therefore must be controlled. Told what to do by those who know what's best for us. Since they have it all figured out I should just go back to sleep now.
To be totally honest Marg, I gave up on trying to get a job from a corporation and am now in the process of "creating" a job, so to speak. All I have left are my meager musical talents and I've been back in town long enough to meet some people and get something a going.
Since, you know, I'm obviously not capable of delivering pizzas in my hometown of over forty years.
In other words, I'm going about it unconventionally but it's all I have left. Corporations won't hire me as I have bad credit(thanks in most part to the international banking cartel), I haven't worked in almost two years - strike two - and I'm over forty and not moldable - STEEEEEERIKE THREEEEEEE - YER OUTTA HERE!
But whatever, the control freaks know better than I do about my particular situation, just like they know all the particulars of every single person out there who is on food stamps and must be evil, therefore must be controlled. Told what to do by those who know what's best for us. Since they have it all figured out I should just go back to sleep now.
reply to post by TheLoony
You brought up some very valid points with your post.. and someone who has been hoofing it all day long.. looking for a job..is very tired ..should be able to stop and get a 99 cent taco or two with food stamps...considering they can get a couple of candy bars or bags of chips with that same card.
You brought up some very valid points with your post.. and someone who has been hoofing it all day long.. looking for a job..is very tired ..should be able to stop and get a 99 cent taco or two with food stamps...considering they can get a couple of candy bars or bags of chips with that same card.
I agree with this one. Using foodstamps at a restaurant is garbage. They're meant to supplement nutrition. Places like KFC and Taco Bell don't
really do that.
Originally posted by irsuccubus
Coalition for the Homeless said that for people who don't live near a grocery store and can't afford a restaurant, "This would allow people to get a reduced price meal at a small deli or a restaurant, and that does include fast-food restaurants."
Now for those who don't live near a grocery store... how are they getting food now? That's definetly not a good reason to extend benefits to fast food restaurants! And the program is supposed to be nutritional...
Papa Murphy's (a pizza spot that prepares your pizzas fresh, and you take them home and bake them) accepts food stamps (doesn't give any discounts), and Subway used to.... It was convenient (when I used food stamps) for something quick to make, but I am SO AGAINST fast food!
I get tired of seeing people stating that "our tax dollars" are being abused/wasted by welfare recipients... I'm on welfare from time to time, and those are MY tax dollars as well... I work and pay my taxes as well, so it's not like I'm getting free money from those not on welfare....
This made me laugh though... Highly doubt it'll pass... But hey, that's just me.... Those I know who do get food stamps would love for that to happen.
reply to post by TheLoony
At least you are honest, I hope things go well for you in your next venture.
Hey if Hindus can come to this nation and milk the system while taking over gas stations and Asians opening nail places you should be able to get assistance to have our own business too.
Sadly "entrepreneur" immigrants seems to be doing better at getting grants and loans and I wonder why.
At least you are honest, I hope things go well for you in your next venture.
Hey if Hindus can come to this nation and milk the system while taking over gas stations and Asians opening nail places you should be able to get assistance to have our own business too.
Sadly "entrepreneur" immigrants seems to be doing better at getting grants and loans and I wonder why.
Originally posted by AnIntellectualRedneck
I agree with this one. Using foodstamps at a restaurant is garbage. They're meant to supplement nutrition. Places like KFC and Taco Bell don't really do that.
Just curious as to why? Is the chicken you buy in the stores healthier than the chicken at KFC? Is their coleslaw or potato salad any less healthy than the stuff you buy at a super market?
If your concerned about people buying healthy food with their stamps..why is it ok to buy pop, candy and chips?
I can't believe that people are getting all in a huff about food stamps being used to buy a 99 cent taco at Taco Bell.
By the way..unless you're buying your vegetables from an organic grower (legit one) the vegetables at a big supermarket could be just as unhealthy for you.
Originally posted by muzzleflash
Originally posted by OptimusSubprime
reply to post by muzzleflash
Or better yet, imagine if the government would stop stealing private property by way of the tax code from its citizens, and all of that money was left in the private sector for people to do with as they saw fit. That would also help poor people, and the government would have nothing to do with it.
If there were no more tax thefts, than we wouldn't have that many poor people left would we?
So instead of paying half my $ in tax, then having to apply for "welfare" to get my 50% of my money back, they could just cut all the red tape and stop taking the $ in the first place.
Than I wouldn't be poor and wouldn't feel the need to beg the govt for my money I earned back in the first place anyways.
You are 100% correct about that one.
I doubt we would really even have a poverty epidemic in the first place if we were free and not enslaved into a system of credit with huge interest % to make up for our lost tax $.
Very good point! Ugh, gotta love the system...
I'm seeing a double standard in many people's opinions on this. Its common for people who participate in charity to help a homeless person by
cooking them a meal. In fact, they have things called "soup kitchens" where that happens all the time. Yet, when the government does this for
people, its suddenly a bad thing to take the step of preparing the food for them.
In addition, people are not seeing the full picture. There are some circumstances where people such as job hunters find them self without access to food while on the road. I know such a person. What they normally do is buy prepared sandwiches from a grocery store using food stamps. Well guess what, those things always cost MORE than using the dollar menu at Taco bell to get the $2 meal they offer. Therefore, the person I have in mind would be able to *save* money on food in certain circumstances by shopping at Taco Bell rather than a grocery store.
And there is one final thing people are not thinking of. Food stamp benefits are fixed benefits. You get $x per month to spend when on food. Therefore, you don't save taxpayers any money by controlling which foods the person buying food spends their food stamps on. Therefore, these food stamp controls are just that... a control thing where people coax people into the personal habit they think are best for others. I disagree that kind of control will change anybody's eating habits. If you want to control someone's eating habits, then offer them the information they need to make the choices best for them, and allow them the freedom to chose the habits that work best for them.
I will admit that in some circumstances people waste their money on fast food and junk food using food stamps. However, that simply isn't always the case, and I don't trust the government to be able to figure out what foods are better for people. If it was entirely up to the government which foods people ate then Monsanto would probably be the sole place that people on food stamps can buy their food from. Therefore, I'd much rather see as much flexibility as possible with the food stamp program.
In addition, people are not seeing the full picture. There are some circumstances where people such as job hunters find them self without access to food while on the road. I know such a person. What they normally do is buy prepared sandwiches from a grocery store using food stamps. Well guess what, those things always cost MORE than using the dollar menu at Taco bell to get the $2 meal they offer. Therefore, the person I have in mind would be able to *save* money on food in certain circumstances by shopping at Taco Bell rather than a grocery store.
And there is one final thing people are not thinking of. Food stamp benefits are fixed benefits. You get $x per month to spend when on food. Therefore, you don't save taxpayers any money by controlling which foods the person buying food spends their food stamps on. Therefore, these food stamp controls are just that... a control thing where people coax people into the personal habit they think are best for others. I disagree that kind of control will change anybody's eating habits. If you want to control someone's eating habits, then offer them the information they need to make the choices best for them, and allow them the freedom to chose the habits that work best for them.
I will admit that in some circumstances people waste their money on fast food and junk food using food stamps. However, that simply isn't always the case, and I don't trust the government to be able to figure out what foods are better for people. If it was entirely up to the government which foods people ate then Monsanto would probably be the sole place that people on food stamps can buy their food from. Therefore, I'd much rather see as much flexibility as possible with the food stamp program.
Man, I already fight these welfare people off at the store for the last bag of Oreos, now I might have to fight them off at Taco bell!? Ug!
Has anyone else ever noticed on the first of every month the stores are packed with people, all of whom are filling their carts with junk food? I can't believe I pay for these people to get fat. I wish the government would pay me to go to the gym. It's expensive!
Has anyone else ever noticed on the first of every month the stores are packed with people, all of whom are filling their carts with junk food? I can't believe I pay for these people to get fat. I wish the government would pay me to go to the gym. It's expensive!