Whats with these arrogant people who think aliens are demons?

Originally posted by ka119They could be extra terrestrial chipmunks for all we know.

Please. No Squeakuel.

Originally posted by Zeer0
reply to post by Raivan31

 

Religions have been proven wrong over and over again and will continued to be proven false. But people still believe in such silly stories and even try to give them Logic when there is none.

And things "proven" to be wrong have turned out being right, too. So, this is pointless.

Originally posted by petrus4
Constant appeals to guilt and fear were the primary reason why I renounced formal Christianity in 2007. When people call themselves Christian, yet spend far more of their time focusing on and talking about Satan and demons, not to mention Thelemite spiritual pornography, what does that say about what they really believe?

I honestly don't see the point in giving another creature that much power over my life. But I never had to give up Christianity to avoid that.

Originally posted by petrus4

Originally posted by MasterGemini
Sorry, how am I fear mongering?

Claiming that literally any form of extraterrestrial life, cannot be anything other than Hell spawned demons, is not fearmongering?

Where's the evidence that demons are hell spawned? That statement has never made sense.

I have seen the mental state of Christians who spend all of their time preoccupied with demons. I used to be one such myself. They live in a constant state of terror and near hysteria, despite their claims to the contrary.

Not 100% true, but reliable enough to carry some weight. I read up on "true" demon posessions whenever I can get the book cheaply. The only time I live in irrational fear is when I'm trying to go to sleep and my mind INSISTS on playing the "what if?" game. In reality, demons real or fake have NO AUTHORITY over me, so real fear will never develop for them. But yes, most people fear the things they obsess over.

As I have said before, it was a battle to get the church to concede that the Earth rotated around the Sun. If Christianity has been wrong, and refused to accept the truth about other characteristics of outer space, then I have no difficulty whatsoever, in believing that logically, they are also wrong about this subject as well.

Well, at least we're not insisting that Christians believed that the Earth is flat, no?

Originally posted by Zeer0
reply to post by Diplomat

 

The only thing was similar was the big head. The eyes were not big and black and sightings of Greys do not depict these beings wearing Cloths. You were close but not spot on


Your quote sums up what im saying. We used to call them Angles/Demons but now we know they were ET's that were misinterpreted for the Divine.

Considering that we've not really STUDIED these creatures, we can't tell which way is more accruate. It just fits in with the assumption that things get better with time to believe that they are ETs.

Originally posted by Diplomat
How could a race of extremely advanced benevolent space aliens come to our planet and not do anything to help?

How can a Hindu watch his children starve when there's a cow rigbt outside eating the family's garden plot? How can Pro Choice advocate belive ending a life is beneficial? It happens all the time in Humanity. While an Alien doesn't have to think like we do, their "prime directive" may interfere with compassion.

But it does start to make sense when you realize that THERE ARE NO BENEVOLENT SPACE ALIENS HERE. We would ALL KNOW. They would be all over our cities helping and teaching everyone, they would have taken over everything easily because obviously if they are advanced enough to travel here they are far more superior than any Earth military or government.

Only evils skulks in the shadows?

Originally posted by Raivan31

Originally posted by rumor21

Originally posted by Caioneach

There are religions that existed at one point that said aliens not only were not demons but actually helped humans in development. Many of them were curiously enough destroyed and nearly erased forever by christianity.

Where is your proof of this?

Mayan beliefs seem to suggest help from powerful beings from the sky, Quetzecotyl (or however you spell it)

They were told that the powerful sky beings would be pale and have fiery hair. Spainards are either Moorish (mostly Southern) or they were pale with this gorgeous dark red that would make an Irish Lass Jealous. Knew a guy from Spain when I was a kid. His hair was a shade darker than the redhead's in Grimlins II.

But anyway. Prophecy says Redheaded God, and Spain is the cause of the Aztec's fall. How appropriate.

Originally posted by HazyChestNutz
reply to post by Diplomat

 

Their not demons. It's aliens. Even humans like me can astral project and have a lucid dream. Im a demon? Wtf, No. Get your mind right.

Which brings up the point of: if a human can, and is just learning to, what can another entity do?

Originally posted by HazyChestNutz
God can't be called God when there is a opposing force (Satan) against him. How hard is that for people like you to understand? Logic.

1. Logic is not required to oppose the all powerful. If Satan is an illogically thinking being, he can oppose anything he wants, including God, without ever having the benefit of winning against God. You see this all the time in humanity. People illogically oppose those things that have the power to destroy them and have the audacity to act like they're going to win all the time. Occasionally they do, but most the time they don't.

2 For your statement to even remotely have a chance, you'd have to have the 2 on an equal playing field, and in scripture, they're not. Go read Job. Satan PETITIONS God for the right to provoke Job. Having equal in nature oppositon to God makes a Pantheon, while having a revolting subject still keeps all the power in 1 being's hand.

3 Generally speaking, the word translated as perfect would better be translated as Mature. Think, the tree of "knowlege of good and evil" is not the tree of "mastery of good and evil". The difference in a Creator God and the rest is that this being is supposed to have mastered Good and Evil. I'm not remotely saying that God practices evil, but that evil can be bound to serve a good purpose. The reason we fail at this is becauew we're not mature.

So, don't believe in a God, that's fine but quit assuming you've got a handle on what is logical and what is not.

Originally posted by wonderworld
reply to post by CynicalDrivel

 

No one on here is trying to convince you ofan after-life. You may think after death it's over and nothing else occurs to the spirt and i feel bad for all that think this. Is it worth it to gamble with your soul?? Just "What If" there is a Heaven and Hell. That is a serious gamble.

What in the world did I post that merited this reaction? Seriously, I don't know what you're responding to.

Originally posted by bigrex
what's with the arrogant people who believe aliens are gods?

Now, THAT'S proof that people cannot live without a higher power.

reply to post by Caioneach


At OP, what an idiot... Seriously? Someone believes something different then you and their the arrogant ones?
You don't know what the hell aliens are just as much as the rest of us. So why is your theory any better then anyone elses?

Know what I'm tired of? Idiot ALIEN HUGGERS who are willing bend over and take the probe in the ass (figuratively). Can aliens be good? Possibly. Do you know 100%? NO YOU DON'T. So stop bashing people who believe something other then yourself. Open YOUR mind, and stop belittling your own people. Aliens can be just as evil as us, only they have more firepower.

So until you prove their friendly, don't drop your guard, and run out to them with open arms. Cause who knows if you'll be running back.

Originally posted by impaired
I absolutely agree...

So for all of the trillions upon trillions of possible intelligent life out there - they're all demons. - Even a planet of Avatar-like people, huh?

Give me a break. The Universe doesn't revolve around Christianity.

Hope to see this thread on the front page of ATS by tomorrow.

I had the priviledge to watch a DVD called "The Priviledged Planet"; video by Institute for Creation Research
Review Copyright 2005 epicidiot.com.

The Priviledged Planet

I too once thought that since there is so many stars and planets, that there was probably an abundance of life almost everywhere, until I saw this DVD and the scientists explain just how rare our life is due to the criteria and circumstances that must be met to have life, let alone a species of higher intelligence.

For example: Just take our planet alone. How many millions of species of life inhabit our Earth? An untold amount including the smallest of microbials to man himself. I find it odd that out of all these millions (if not billions) of species, there is only ONE species of life on Earth that is intellegent in the way we are to invent and create (skyscrapers, computers, electricity). We are the only ones that terraformed our planet in such a way, that it looks unnatural from above. So even if there was life on another planet, which I am not saying there isn't, just not as prevalent as we think, what are the odds it would be intellegent; using our Earth as an example of those probabilities.


But that is not it, now lets look at the chances and circumstances needed just to have life period. Some of the circumstances include:

- Being in the correct location in the galaxy

- Being the correct distance from the sun

- Having Giant Planets as neighbors to protect us from rogue space debris (remember Shoemaker-Levy and Jupiter grabbing the attention so to speak?)

- That we are orbiting the right kind of star. Our type is G2 yellow star. (the type is indicative to surface temps)

- The importance of us having a large moon in relation to Earth's size (to help Earth stabalize its axis, also tides)

- Being that our Earth is a terrestrial planet

- Being earth has a crust just thick enough to maintain plate tectonic activity

- It has enough heat in its interior that its still circulating its iron core so it can produce a magnetic feild to protect us from solar winds, cosmic rays, and any other threats of that nature

- Being it has an Oxygen-rich Atmosphere to allow for complex organisms to survive.

- It has liquid water and enough continents to allow for a diversity of life to keep the eco system in check

- and more


All these factors have to be met at one place and time in order to have the complexity of life in which we do.

Also, think about a solar eclipse. when a solar eclipse happens, no matter where in the world you witness it, the moon blocks the sun SO PERFECTLY that all you see is the coronal portion of the sun. That means not only are the Sun, Earth, and Moon the perfect sizes for this to occur, but also the exact distances from each other, while still the correct sizes and distances to support life. It's Amazing! How can one not beleive in a Creator? Not to mention what our Creator did with us and the complexity of the body and all its functions, hormones releasing at just the right moments in order to have feelings of happiness, or sadness and the other million emotions.
Something to think about when someone tells you that a bunch of rocks got together and just made it happen.

As for "Even a planet of Avatar-like people, huh? Give me a break. The Universe doesn't revolve around Christianity."


Give me a break. The Universe doesn't revolve around Hollywood !!

~ Noah

This thread is in the wrong forum. The OP'er believes aliens are demons, well it belongs in the conspiracy in religion forum.
Talk about clutter!!

Alien= eli-an , (eli, eli, lama sabactani)!!!!...from bible..BIBLE=in other languages means BALBAI= speaking handicape-stutterer...bible-babilon!!?--bible=the beast??....babilon =the place where the elohims start to confused the human language....why??...i know why! do you?...
Alien=alienate, brain wash,
demons=daimon (greeks provenience)-superior intelligence!?!?........i can go on and on like that and put your mind in a stage of alienation, but for what??!?!............so before we have any evidence of existing or non existig of god(gods) [aliens, etc], we can not stop the human opinions , I dont belive in nothing,but i accept all belivers and non belivers because our unimportantcy in this call universe is evidence......so stay sharp, focus on target , and choose right if you can ha-ha-ha...YES WE CAN = yehweh-an..?!?!..what you say about that?...
S=H C=H so we have YEHWH and this is no bull# CIA and othe security services do this alllll the time!!!!

Originally posted by Diplomat
Most of you don't even seem to know what you're talking about.

You blast "Christianity" while the exact same demons/extradimensional entities are mentioned in the Quran and many other ancient texts.

It's not just "Christianity," we are dealing with some sort of extradimensional phenomenon on this planet... and that is not to say that actual space aliens don't exist elsewhere in the Universe.

Oh look, Christian brainwashees strike back.

Why don't you stay in your religious forums there and Moderators since you are too kind to remove posts when this has clearly no place in Alien/UFOs forum why dont you also take the time and move this to the Bible/whatever forum and there they can talk aliens are demons all they want? I don't even look at that other forum, so at least I am not trolling like someone from there coming here forcing their religious obsessions.

And also why didn't you just remove the first paragraph? I will write it one more time though for those for whom it was aimed read it so it's all good.

I'd rather trust my own instincts/intuition than believe a bunch of paid government shills lying about all of the alien races who have visited Earth... (disclosure project anyone?)

What a coincidence Diplomat? Why did you return to Alien/UFO section? Here is my version:

I'd rather trust my own instincts/intuition than believe a bunch of religious nutheads still trying to force their religious beliefs

Don't you understand you with your religion have lost it! Several times! First time when you burned people for being 'evil witches' 'demons' 'possessed' !! Second time when you killed scientists for their scientific discoveries.

Comments? That retarded is religion. Third time: When you create sects and force people in your religion BULLCRAP to everyone. Fourth time: When you go as crazy as saying Aliens are Demons.

I posted, Rendlesham forst - one of the most real unproven and undebunked cases. The witnesses saw an object, on one of the nights as it happened twice, they saw a craft with symbols on it, symbols that suggest alien, not from here, NOT EVIL RITUALs. Are these demons riding HELL HORSES?

And even Abductions are 10 times more plausible than your Aliens are Demons nonsense. The descriptions of Betty and Barney Hill that were investigated unlike the false claims Aliens are Demons of some nutheads on TV who are like all these DDAY sayers, just as crazy people, these crazy people are the ones you get Aliens are demons bs right? But for aliens and UFOs there are lot's of SANE people. So back to the Hill case - they describe technology, they describe alien craft, they show star system near the constellation Reticulum.

And these are demons? What? So creatures that look ugly, control ships, fly with high tech aircrafts are demons? If you were sane and think about it, lot's of unexplained things were called DEMONS, WITCHES, and that's all in the silly uneducated heads of all there in the past who were to obsessed with religion.

If there are really any other beings in caves or on other planets, you would call them Demons?

Someone who speaks of DEMONS hasn't gone to school or was brainwashed later - Fact. I imagine you as those families who are like with a time machine from the 16th to the 21st century and PRAY before dinner. PRAY PRAY.

O sancta simplicitas!
Holy Simplicity. Unenlightened, Uneducated, Trying to Regain Lost Cause after Being Compromented By Your Actions! Demons... please.

And if a moderator deletes the whole post this time, im going to report that moderator's action to higher instance. Because my post had also information that I am pretty much reposting and you could filter it.

Originally posted by Erno86
reply to post by Haxsaw

 

How can I be racist against my Gaod, when my ET Gaod or Gaod's that I worship, are peaceful and caring of the human race? They fill me with the hope and promise, that they will save the human race from the downgrading of our civilization, by the lack of energy sources and the lack of basic faith that the human race will survive thru this turmoil. What does that have to do about anything with racism?

edit on 6-9-2011 by Erno86 because: typo

lol, you are the one who said you "equate demonology with racism", you're all over the place.

Of course your demons(ET's to you) fill you with hope, it seems you've bought everything they've told you hook, line, and sinker, nothing new there, hundreds(maybe thoughsands) of civilizations have been ignorant enough to call them their gods regardless of what image/form they've chosen to take to their adherents. As I said they prey on ones vulnerabilites, and those without faith in a ONE TRUE UNSEEN GOD are very susceptible to their cunning treacherous ways, they hold them in awe due to their advanced technology and interdimensial travel, and their ego thrives off their visitations, regardless of the phony message they bring. Basically it comes down to those who have impatience and who want to see here and now results will continue to be easily mislead by these gods/aliens/demons "magic" and display of technology.

And I guess it's also common knowledge that aliens go around tricking humans, giving them gifts and have them sign pacts to sell their soul...

Originally posted by Imtor
SNIP...

The OP asks whats with people who think aliens are demons, then the person you are referring to who believes aliens are in fact demons comes along to present his point of view and you tell him to go back to the religous threads. Talk about trolling. Thes rest of what you've said really just points to what little you know about the abrahamic religions and their view towards demons.

Originally posted by Chrysalis
And I guess it's also common knowledge that aliens go around tricking humans, giving them gifts and have them sign pacts to sell their soul...

Again, another one who thinks the Abrahamic religions think that all demons have come from hell, or all demons must present themselves with horns, or all demons must present a formal contract in which the participant officially sells his soul, or that demons couldnt take the form of aliens, or that all demons give gifts, etc, etc,....seriously, what the?...you've all been watching to many hollywood movies to differentiate between Abrahamic religions and fictional movies written by occultists/ape'eists/etc, the more you guys talk the clearer it becomes just how little you know.

Let me say it again, Demons dont all(if any) come from hell, demons more than often dont show their true form, demons dont just deal with people who've sold their soul, demons dont all give gifts, demons can take the form of aliens and humans, demons can travel inter/extra-dimensionally, demons do have advanced technology compared to our standards, demons dont all spread the same message, demons will spin whatever web that falls in line with thier sympathizers vulnerabilites, demons dont tell ONLY lies....if a demon tells you 1+1=2 is he lying? in fact demons make a point of mixing many truths with lies as they are not stupid enough to think that many will follow ALL lies. Demons main goal is to misguide man from the worship of the ONE TRUE UNSEEN GOD, and yes that is EXACTLY what aliens seem to do, so stop trying to belittle the followers of Abrahamic religions because all you've done so far is show your lack of comprehension.

Now I ask those ignorant folk referred to above, why cant aliens be demons? Is it because you dont even believe in demons in the first place? If so then you're off topic and in the wrong thread as the OP hasnt directed any questions at you whatsoever.

I don't belittle followers of abrahamic faiths, just the little portion of them that can't keep their rants in the religion / supernatural forums.
The ones that think the words "believe in aliens" is blashpemy.
You have offered no proof. Just a wide statement saying demons could make us believe whatever they want.
That statement is so broad it could apply to anything, Even the moon could just be a giant demon in the sky.
And that is what your distorted abrahamic perception has done to you.
Keep looking for an outside source for your failures.
Some people think aliens are real, just deal with it.

Because they have been told all their lives (movies, medias etc...) that aliens were the enemy when in fact they are our creators. The goverment continue to make you believe the aliens are the enemy when in fact , the goverment is the ENEMY. They don't want to loose control, they don't want people to awake... they want to continue ruling, controlling etc...

Open your eyes guys... Elenin is the messiah... the goverment are hiding elenin from the medias because they know something. Look when hailey passed by... it was the story of the month, but Elenin only comes close every 13 000 years so that is not rare at all, there is nothing there. It is only a simple comet (goverments).

One thing, do not worry about Elenin, welcome Elenin instead. remove that fear they incrusted in you.

Namaste

reply to post by Caioneach

Originally posted by Chrysalis
I don't belittle followers of abrahamic faiths, just the little portion of them that can't keep their rants in the religion / supernatural forums.
The ones that think the words "believe in aliens" is blashpemy.
You have offered no proof. Just a wide statement saying demons could make us believe whatever they want.
That statement is so broad it could apply to anything, Even the moon could just be a giant demon in the sky.
And that is what your distorted abrahamic perception has done to you.
Keep looking for an outside source for your failures.
Some people think aliens are real, just deal with it.

One would need to make proof fo demons and aliens fullstop before making any proof of any statements, so dont delude yourself. Calling aliens real does not negate the fact that they may well be demons in another form or even in their true form, not all demons look alike.

So dont get too ahead of yourself, you have yourself offered NO evidence to even prove that aliens even exist let alone evidence that they dont fall in line of what Abrahamic religions call demons. All you have shown so far is very little understanding of the argument you are trying to make.

Originally posted by Blinded
Because they have been told all their lives (movies, medias etc...) that aliens were the enemy when in fact they are our creators. The goverment continue to make you believe the aliens are the enemy when in fact , the goverment is the ENEMY. They don't want to loose control, they don't want people to awake... they want to continue ruling, controlling etc...

Open your eyes guys... Elenin is the messiah... the goverment are hiding elenin from the medias because they know something. Look when hailey passed by... it was the story of the month, but Elenin only comes close every 13 000 years so that is not rare at all, there is nothing there. It is only a simple comet (goverments).

One thing, do not worry about Elenin, welcome Elenin instead. remove that fear they incrusted in you.

Namaste

reply to post by Caioneach

 

Dont make us laugh, your rehashing exactly what many a civilization has fallen for before, that is that they arent just aliens, they are in fact our "gods", again falling exaclty in-line of what a typical demon would say, "worship me not the Abrahamic GOD", poor little demons suffering from a massive inferiortiy complex. WHy not ask yourself the question, who created your "gods"(aliens)? or do they have the qualites of the Abrahmic GOD now too do they, like the "FIRST AND LAST"?

Your gods/demons are nothing other than part of the creation, they live and die, GOD does not, they are worthy of NO worship whatsoever, in fact they a worthy of ridicule for their lies and manipulation.