Are Homophobics Gay?

Originally posted by Corruption Exposed
reply to post by newcovenant

 

Are Homophobics Gay?

No, they are not.

Maybe they just like to express their opinion.

One time I was at a party, and a gay man kept hitting on me. It was rather awkward but I laughed it off at first and just ignored it. Eventually I had to politely tell him to stop because it was making me uncomfortable because this was a work function and he was acting inappropriately.

He reacted by calling me a homophobe and secretly being a homo sexual. I am not saying all homo sexuals act like this, but this is an example of the twisted logic your thread title promotes. Does this mean I am homophobic or I am gay? LOL no, it does not.

edit on 3-9-2011 by Corruption Exposed because: (no reason given)

You might be the exception and again...I am not saying this.
A study that hooked people up to electrodes and showed them sexual images said this, gauging by participants levels of excitement and arousal. Don't shoot the messenger!

It of course, allowed that there are other reasons people are homophobic, as you say they might just like to express their opinion.... but that underlying homosexuality or at least bi-sexuality was indeed one of the more pronounced reasons we see homophobia in our society today..

reply to post by JaxonRoberts
Generalizations.
Are some gays, homophobes?
Yes.
Are all homophobes gay?
Nope.
The ones that aren't are just stupid.

Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by newcovenant

 

Are athiests secretly religious?
Are people who use the race card bigots?

Little broad in the brush, aren't we?

Originally posted by Exuberant1
I find it fascinating how logic goes out the window when this topic comes up.

You wouldn't say an anti-communist fears communism because of his own communist thoughts, or that a libertarian is a closet tax-lover would you?

I find it fascinating how you two didn't read the post at all, because if you did, you would see there's a key difference between the thread title and your outrageous comparisons-the thread title is backed up by a study.

Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by JaxonRoberts

 

Generalizations.
Are some gays, homophobes?
Yes.
Are all homophobes gay?
Nope.
The ones that aren't are just stupid.

Didn't you already say this pretty much in an earlier post?
Are you sticking around just to re-educate those who might come long and be hopelessly misinformed by this information?

Don't you worry.

I got them.

But you also have those few non homophobes that still got aroused, but claimed straightness. In short, the study was too small. Also you'd think a real homophobe would close/avert his eyes when gay porn came on. I consider myself a homophobe, but for one reason:

Being gay is plain wrong. If everyone turned gay, our race would die. Gays are detrimental to society.

reply to post by newcovenant

Are all scientific studies accurate?
There is no built-in bias with this?

Come back and talk if it can be repeated.
*yawn*

Originally posted by 200457
Also you'd think a real homophobe would close/avert his eyes when gay porn came on

Not if the supposition is true. They were in a room ALL ALONE!

I see that the communist homosexual agenda is hitting it hard here on ATS today. Just because someone believes that homosexuality is a perversion does not make them gay, please show us where it says that being "gay" is normal behavior? Just because a group of angry Marxist homosexuals demands that society accept them, does not mean that we are required to do so. Deal with it.

Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by JaxonRoberts

 

Generalizations.
Are some gays, homophobes?
Yes.
Are all homophobes gay?
Nope.
The ones that aren't are just stupid.

You seem to KEEP missing the point, which tells me that you intentionally skipped the research material provided in the OP... Gays are not homophobes. Those of us who are gay have accepted who and what we are. Homophobes have not. The way you order your terminology is VERY important.

Now are all homophobes closeted homosexuals? No... But MOST are, as the studies mentioned showed. The minority of those who showed no arousal most likely have other self-hatred issues that are manifesting themselves in homophobia due to societal acceptance of a dislike of people and things homosexual. Does your continued posting here against the supposition of the OP while clearly ignorant of the facts posted in the OP say something about you? Yes, but it is unclear as to what... SO FAR...

Just because a person becomes aroused does not mean that they are gay. Some crackpot study to show the world we are all gay is not proving anything.

reply to post by newcovenant


Fantastic psuedo science. These kinds of studies, regardless of the subject matter are rife with bias and mean nothing. They could conduct the same study funded by some group of religious zealots and come up with exactly the opposite answers.

There is a reason that these things come under the unbrella of "soft science". At some point the level of intrepretation required to make the analysis makes a mockery of the study, as do the definitions, such as what is a homophobe. What is a homophobe?

That folks take this kind of trash seriously is comical.

By the way, who cares?

Originally posted by discharged77
I see that the communist homosexual agenda is hitting it hard here on ATS today. Just because someone believes that homosexuality is a perversion does not make them gay, please show us where it says that being "gay" is normal behavior? Just because a group of angry Marxist homosexuals demands that society accept them, does not mean that we are required to do so. Deal with it.

You are aware that you are the minority in society, right? Most of society DOES NOT agree with you... But it's nice to see the angry Fascist Anti-homosexuals present and accounted for in this discussion!

Originally posted by dolphinfan
reply to post by newcovenant

 

By the way, who cares?

Apparently you do, or else you wouldn't be here trying so hard to debunk it...

reply to post by JaxonRoberts

*facepalm*
If this "study" can be repeated, then I might agree with the study.

But this knee-jerk reaction to ONE STUDY, does not sell it for me. Sorry.

It's like me posting that Nirubu is going to crash into earth because ONE STUDY said it would, then ME mocking YOU because you didn't believe it.

Insinuations aside, I don't blindly accept ANY study that comes out. You may, if it fits in your personal paradigm, but I will remain sceptical.

As usually happens in conversations like these, a relatively reasonable question has been overly analyzed and all sense of decorum has gone out the window.

Are all homophobes gay? No. Some of them are strict religious advocates...

Are many homophobes gay? Define many

Are some homophobes gay? Yes, absolutely. We have proof of that in the world of American politics where anti-gay vitriol is slung by politicians who are hiring rent-a-boys or tappin toes in the bathroom.

As for the positioning of this thread, It should probably be in the social issues forum, but that's for the mods to work out.

reply to post by ignant

people tend to project hate toward others' behaviour based on what they don't like about themselves.

This is the bottom line and usually true. I try to remember it when I find myself being unduly critical of someone else for something. I look for that fault in myself to explain why I seem to GO OUT OF MY WAY to hate it in others. People don't analyze themselves critically enough. People don't know themselves. They think they are who people say they are. We are more than what is projected back off others. We are usually much greater than the sum of whatever society thinks we amount to. Society doesn't know Dick.

Originally posted by discharged77
I see that the communist homosexual agenda is hitting it hard here on ATS today. Just because someone believes that homosexuality is a perversion does not make them gay, please show us where it says that being "gay" is normal behavior? Just because a group of angry Marxist homosexuals demands that society accept them, does not mean that we are required to do so. Deal with it.

Homosexuals have a strong desire that their sexual leanings be accepted and approved by everyone, that's why they regularly have their 'Gay Pride' parades, fundraisers, petitions, etc. If you really don't care then you're called a homophobe, and I guess now by this thread you might be gay also. This BS is getting deep and stinky, and I have a feeling is going to start backfiring on them.

reply to post by JaxonRoberts


I could care less. What I do care about are these agenda driven "scientific" studies that folks bandie about to claim some ideological driven "truth", regardless of what the issue is. That folks spend time on them is one thing. That they are used to inform public policy is outrageous and if tax payer funds are used at any level on this kind of rubbish is criminal.

I feel the same way about studies that suggest that kids that come from heterosexual families are more well adjusted than those that come out of stable gay families. The very definition of "well adjusted" is ambiguous at best and by definition is one that conforms to social norms. Whos norms? Typically the norms identified by those who create the baseline of the study built predicated on a composite of behaviors or traits that they find desirable. They define "well adjusted". How exactly is that done? Whos to say that conformance to those traits and behaviors infers any thing other than that - conformance? Why would conformance be deemed positive? I certainly don't think it is.

All of this stuff is not worth the paper its written on.

Originally posted by Ferris.Bueller.II

Originally posted by discharged77
I see that the communist homosexual agenda is hitting it hard here on ATS today. Just because someone believes that homosexuality is a perversion does not make them gay, please show us where it says that being "gay" is normal behavior? Just because a group of angry Marxist homosexuals demands that society accept them, does not mean that we are required to do so. Deal with it.

Homosexuals have a strong desire that their sexual leanings be accepted and approved by everyone, that's why they regularly have their 'Gay Pride' parades, fundraisers, petitions, etc. If you really don't care then you're called a homophobe, and I guess now by this thread you might be gay also. This BS is getting deep and stinky, and I have a feeling is going to start backfiring on them.

edit on 9/3/11 by Ferris.Bueller.II because: (no reason given)

This is not from the gays trying to be accepted pride or parades.
It is a psychological study and the interesting results. I dare say reading between the lines here, you might be holding back on us as well. I accept you for who you are. I don't have to like you but I accept you just the same. I think you have a right to live in liberty and in freedom.

...64 people in this study... how they react to stimuli is indicative of a percentage of the population?... sure but 64 test subjects out of millions of people means purty much nothing... besides, they were measuring the guys winkies to gauge reaction and those are very sensitive little thangs that often errupt with no physical or visual stimulation... knowing that they were going to have their winkies measured couldve easily set off some... silly study, imo... makes me wonder how much grant money they got and who the grant(s) came from...