Man Faces Life In Jail For Recording Police

I hate my country, I hate what it's become, I hate this growing police state, I hate that my rights are being stripped away from me....... I live about a hour away from where this story is taking place, when they are in court next I'll make sure I'm one of the people standing outside of that court room protesting this BS we are seeing.... I'm slowly getting to my breaking point with this crap, and I dont think I'm alone.......

reply to post by hawkiye


Oh there is no way he will get anything near that.... Cruel and unusual punishment anyone? If any judge is stupid enough to try and screw up the case that bad, he would be able to appeal really easily....

Are cops this stupid?

Sad.

And this comes just as we find a police officer on duty having sex with a woman on his vehicle, recorded by a local security camera?

Is this the kind of thing the police don't want us to record?

Surely, police are human too, and subject to scrutinizing just as we are.

Officer found having sex on patrol car
www.abovetopsecret.com...

What has this country come to, when it's a crime to catch an officer doing something illegal?

Originally posted by jhn7537
I hate my country, I hate what it's become, I hate this growing police state, I hate that my rights are being stripped away from me....... I live about a hour away from where this story is taking place, when they are in court next I'll make sure I'm one of the people standing outside of that court room protesting this BS we are seeing.... I'm slowly getting to my breaking point with this crap, and I dont think I'm alone.......

edit on 1-9-2011 by jhn7537 because: (no reason given)

It would be a great statement to make if you and as many of your friends you can round up would have their video cameras there recording the proceedings.

give me a few to find the actual Illinois statute...there are things that can be recorded for certain reasons...as I mention there are stipulations I just don't have them all memorized cause stuff like this comes up once a year if that. But it is Audio not video man...ive been a cop for 5 years...I promise...im not saying I agree with it..im just saying thats what it is.....in the county Im in I have only seen it done one time, and it was because a young college student was asked several times move out of an area while recording....he didn't move and was arrested for obstructing a peace officer because he was interfering with the investigation...later they added the felony charge of audio recording...probably cause of reasons such as he was going to plead not guilty to the obstructing charge. This stuff happens all the time....were S/A's D/A's add on every charge they can in attempt to get them to plead guilty to drop all the other bs charges. ILl find the actual statute though...brb haha

Originally posted by whaaa

Originally posted by jhn7537
I hate my country, I hate what it's become, I hate this growing police state, I hate that my rights are being stripped away from me....... I live about a hour away from where this story is taking place, when they are in court next I'll make sure I'm one of the people standing outside of that court room protesting this BS we are seeing.... I'm slowly getting to my breaking point with this crap, and I dont think I'm alone.......

edit on 1-9-2011 by jhn7537 because: (no reason given)

It would be a great statement to make if you and as many of your friends you can round up would have their video cameras there recording the proceedings.

I'm curious what they would do, or could do, if I pointed a camera at them with it not recording.... Are they allowed to just assume I'm recording them? Cause I'll bring a camera just out of principlal, or even better, I'll make a big Halloween Costume of me as a giant recording device, I wonder if they would arrest me?

I can't even believe this crap :|.

To make it worse, it's in he state where I call home and let me tell you something ATS - the cops here are very arrogant. I haven't heard anything in the local news about this either :/ - granted I don't reallly watch much of that as it's alll bs anyway .

law.justia.com...


Here is about everything I can find at the moment in one link of the Illinois laws on audio recording....read them..and you will understand whats going on. I really think this law was established for other reasons, however it exists.

Let me explain something else about IL, if you get into a bar fight...that is felony aggravated battery charge. Did you know that? However cops and S/A's or D/A's rarely charge the felony route often just making it a battery. However the law is there as a tool to be used certain ways in certain situations. For whatever reason they are hitting this guy hard..and I have a feeling there is more going on here than what we know...they are hitting him with the max for a reason...idk why.

Originally posted by jhn7537

Originally posted by whaaa

Originally posted by jhn7537
I hate my country, I hate what it's become, I hate this growing police state, I hate that my rights are being stripped away from me....... I live about a hour away from where this story is taking place, when they are in court next I'll make sure I'm one of the people standing outside of that court room protesting this BS we are seeing.... I'm slowly getting to my breaking point with this crap, and I dont think I'm alone.......

edit on 1-9-2011 by jhn7537 because: (no reason given)

It would be a great statement to make if you and as many of your friends you can round up would have their video cameras there recording the proceedings.

I'm curious what they would do, or could do, if I pointed a camera at them with it not recording.... Are they allowed to just assume I'm recording them? Cause I'll bring a camera just out of principlal, or even better, I'll make a big Halloweed Costume of me as a giant recording device, I wonder if they would arrest me?

It would give the officer reasonable suspicion to detain you to investigate if you were recording...most likely the officer would just tell you to make sure its off. You don't see cases like this often cause most cops really don't push the issue. Honestly, the camera has saved more cops asses than took them. Im all about it...if we had a camera everywhere we'd solve almost every crime and weed out the #head cops ....i dont care either way

reply to post by cosmicexplorer


As I said most of them are arrogant people from all my time interacting with them. It wouldn't shock me at alll if they just wanted to make an example out of him.

Originally posted by TheWorldSpins
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As I said most of them are arrogant people from all my time interacting with them. It wouldn't shock me at alll if they just wanted to make an example out of him.

edit on 1-9-2011 by TheWorldSpins because: Spelling

Right that is very possible...but if they are its usually a reason for it and its not just cause he broke the law...this law has been in effect since Ive been a cop and ive never heard of it being an issue until recently....that tells me most S/A's really don't prosecute it much. But either way...it is the law....I mean I think wearing a seat belt is insane as the law goes...it should be my choice...but it is a law.

When - not If, the country goes cowboys and indians, there is going to be so much killing for the first few days that it is going to smell so entirely bad and be so extremely messy that my only advise is going to be stay low, stay very very low.

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from numerious sources in the thread he is being defended pro bono by a local representative of the aclu

Originally posted by areyouserious2010
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Not true. The vast majority of police do their jobs properly everyday, hundreds of thousands of times over, you just only hear about the incidents that go wrong or are suspected police corruption.

Untrue.
There are corrupt cops, and cops who ignore the corrupt cops.

There is not a police force in this country without a crooked cop. everyone who works with him knows he's dirty, but allows it to happen..

allowing someone to commit a crime, with your knowledge, and not reporting it immediately makes you an accomplice and guilty of conspiracy to commit the said crime.
Just as dirty as the crooked cop.
you don't get to hide behind the badge.

Police are no different than citizens, they just like to think they are.
The dutiful service and protection LEO's once provided and swore to uphold, are at best a second priority to dept policy.

They know better.. and continue to act as long as they are protected from within.

This is gang mentality... not the mentality of protectors of the people.


anther FYI:

99% of the cops out there have a less than rudimentary grasp of the laws they are paid to uphold.
How can you realistically enforce laws you don't even know or understand without violating innocent peoples rights?

Cops are undereducated, untertrained and, underpaid. This makes some of them a dangerous liability IMHO.

I say pay all cops 100K a year to start.. but require them to pass a watered down version of their state's bar exam first.

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reply to post by cosmicexplorer


yes they are often arrested but currently no one has been convicted of the wiretapping charges in question they all either took deals or had charges dropped and several sources in this short threat can confirm that for you,in addtion several other high profile cases of people filming police have all ended with charges being dopped and in some cases sucessfull lawsuits against departments

reply to post by AnonymousFem


last update from op said that the case is going to go to trial one way or another as the defendant is refusing to take a deal he wants to figtht this is court and get a verdict if hes guilty it will go upstairs to supreme court and rightfully be over turned of hes voted innocent the case will be used to reppeal the shady wiretapping laws etc of illinois or at least a step in the right direction

reply to post by hawkiye


That is pretty messed up. I feel obligated to check the 'laws' of my own state and country.

Maybe its about time we create our own 'Little Brother' system and make use of all of our social networking and various computer tech to protect ourselves from the 'protectors'
To protect (themselves) And serve (Capatlist and goverment intrests)
WTF is happening in america when the average citizen lives in fear of both the goverment/law enforcement AND the many and varied enemies that it has managed to make around the world?
Dont tread on me??? who is that directed at nowdays? the average joe can't even protect themselves and their families from the local #stabulary!
No offence but the average American is pretty much fair game in a 12 month hunting season.
It's gotta get messy. Use your personal protection while you have it. You have numbers, the armament and the desire but lack the organization.

reply to post by cosmicexplorer


thats the good thats gonan come out of thsi case it will be ruled illegal and unconstitutional by this mans brave stand and hopefully when he is victorious stuff like this will be illegal for cops to hide behind illegal and unjust laws

reply to post by cosmicexplorer


you are correct its the audio thats the main thing in question but the problem is he was denied a court reporter to document his court case so he decided to record the court procedings becuase none were provided for him that is the "officer he was filming" was a prosecutor,and in refrence to some one elses point on this page in the op's video journalists are exempt from this law as long as they are at a public hearing or in the course of doing there job (from op's video)

reply to post by hawkiye

By refusing the plea deal, the guy is an absolute HERO!

Get in there Americans and picket the court proceeding!!! Ensure that it has a media focus and impact.. teeheehee!