Revelation of the Pyramids - Documentary.

All I can say at the moment after the first vid,is,simply amazing.
As an elevator constructer ,we are lucky if the building is with in 3 in. Plumb for our elevator shafts at 100 ft.
I will watch the rest.
Goes to show you how much more the ancients knew,and what has been forgotten.

Heterogeneous,or blocks of different shapes and sizes.
I never knew that there was a name for it,but as a child ,I would do this with lego blocks.
I figured out that to make my walls stronger ,I would vary the different shapes and sizes.
I taught my son this when helping him with his legos.
Instead of the simple laying of blocks as you would like bricks,I layered short long pieces with tall short pieces,it looked weird,but it stood up better to moving around the piece I had made.
So.if a child could figure this out,why do we not do it today??
My house,which was built in 1960,is built this way with bedford limestone.
Simple techniques by observing and studying how things work without an outside influence telling me that ,that is not how you do it, I did it in a way that was different.Thinking outside the box.
Not alien technology.
Ok,going to watch more.

So,let's put this into perspective.
Lets compare,say,Mt. Rushmore.




How did they start craving the huge granite rock?

Did You Know? Over 90% of Mount Rushmore was carved using dynamite. Dynamite blasts removed approximately 450,000 tons of rock from the mountain.

Do you think the Egyptians had dynamite?
www.nps.gov...

Originally posted by SLAYER69
reply to post by Blue Shift

 

Don't you mean when the possible "Restoration" during Khufu's life was carried out? His workmen cutting and placing the restoration blocks on the outside couldn't match the quality of the blocks from the "original" construction from a much much earlier ancient period not to mention the perfection of the inner blocks...

Just a theory some have.

Carry on.

edit on 1-9-2011 by SLAYER69 because: (no reason given)

Restoration theory is totally unsupported in my opinion.
Additionally you realise there is dedications to Khufu on the inner foundation rocks of the Pyramid, and the dedication is cut off by the layer of rocks placed over it as a part of the building supportive structure.. Now unless they un-built the whole pyramid how did they get the inscription on the inner foundation rocks. It is a myth there is no inscriptions in the pyramid.

The most important part to note, the deforestation of Egypt during this period the largest In Egypts' history and supports totally the vast work force required to build, not restore this structure.

Also the bake houses carbon date and the wood matches the wooden beams inside the structure of the pyramid, structural again, not refurb.

The debris from the ramp used to build the pyramid, (another myth is that we dont know if one was used, it was used, as were slipways that were watered to move rocks the whole way from quarry, they exist as scars to this day) has pottery shards with Khufus inscription in the debris used to 'pack' the ramp. The ramp was needed for building, not refurbing.

Remember the stones were not needed to be perfect, as the pyramid was clad in limestone to give a smooth appearance, as we see it today, is not how it appeared back then.
.The Lime stone quarry is a stones throw form the pyramid and it matches in excavated limestone the exact cubic metres required to cover the pyramid.

I watched them, but nothing new if you are familiar with Carl Munck

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Haha, yeah it was the same exact guy. He had his own TV show on the History channel I think.

Originally posted by zazzafrazz

Good points Zazzafrazz

Just to add a few other comments as to why the consensus supports an Egyptian Old Kingdom construction of the pyramids:

The Pyramids were built in Egypt (that may sound silly but it's important) all existing evidence of prior culture before, during and after the pyramid is - oddly enough Egyptian, no sign of any other culture around the time before the Egyptian culture evolved out of the earlier neolithic ones. This one fact tends to cast doubt on any theory that says someone else built them - so why did they leave nothing behind? There is a great deal of material for the AE and their neolithic forebears and none for anybody else.

Goyon and Ginsells builders mark

Rubble from the pyramids was put back into the quarries near the pyramids - when excavated they contained OK material-so where is the rubble from the alleged 'earlier' building?

Before building the pyramids the AE built mastabas and used a symbol for the mastaba to mean 'tomb', after the old kingdom ended the symbol for tomb became a pyramid for elite burials...

Technology the pyramids were built using very (to our eyes) crude technology, using hammer stones, fire and water, bronze saw driven grit saws, etc. No sign of "high" technology but technology appropriate to their culture at that time and clearly linked to developments in the neolithic.

List of all ancient writers who spoke of the pyramids:

Ancient writers on the pyramids

Originally posted by malcr

Also: how come these ancients built these structures to warn us of a catastrophe that they suffered....so when did they build the warning? Cannot be afterwards it had to be before. In which case they knew what was going to happen. In which case why build a building that can withstand the catastrophe and yet you still allow the rest of your civilization to be destroyed. Sorry illogical. At the very least there should be a hidden cache of art, artifacts and technology. Even the plastic goo left over ! Or even better, the hidden vault has the technology inscribed on the stone work.

From the research I have done I am convinced that the pyramids weren't built for the purpose of warning us. They may have had some significant message.. but I don't think that was their primary purpose. My personal belief is their primary purpose was to transmute elements to make somekind of fuel. Bob Lazar said the "aliens" had element 115.. but that humans could NEVER make this on Earth. You know what tehy say about disinfo.. the best disinfo mixes truth with lies. I think the element 115 was real but aliens didn't make it and it CAN be made on Earth and was.

I think this site was close to the mark but insert element 115 or something similar in place of nuclear material.

(the site isn't working at the moment. hopefully this cached page shows up)
webcache.googleusercontent.com...:zj11czSeaxIJ:nuclearpyramid.com/energy_solution.php+gregg+wilson+nuclear+pyramid&cd=2&hl=en&ct=cl nk&gl=us

My theory is that the Atlanteans, who were located in the area around the Canary Islands were this mystery advanced race. They detected an oncoming catastrophe and made plans to leave Earth before the event. They made the pyramids to make this fuel to leave the planet.. possibly going to Cygnus or Orion.. OR Orion was a binary star system and this is what the pyramids were referencing.. that we are a part of a binary system and this is what causes the catasrophe.

When they left I suspect some of their people remained.. after the cataclysm they were still found around the Canary islands and many were still around the pyramids location and may have had some affect on the "Egyptians" who came later. Both he inhabitants of the Canary islands and around the pyramids mummified their dead.

Also, we may be under the false assumption that this history was lost. This history may have been known all along.. it's just that few were privy to it and even if we heard it we wouldn't believe it. It would likely just sound like some other BS myth from history after being passed down generation to generation. Same with any technology left behind.

I actually think the great pyramid used some type of electrogravitics and was a particle accelerator. This is how they transmuted the elements in the "King's chamber". High energy particles were sent through the grand gallery and struck the stones above the kings chamber AND the "sarcophagus"/box in the King's chamber. Because this granite sarcophagus and the stones above the chamber are piezoelectric, when struck by these high energy particles they produce electricity. Because the stone is also dielectric they seal out the charges which produces a gravity potential... electrogravitics - antigravity. To add evidence of this note that in the area above the kings chamber they found insect shells.. the material insect shells is made of is also a dielectric.

The fuel that was produced - this element 115 like material is for producing antimatter on demand. Space ship fuel...

Originally posted by Hanslune

Originally posted by zazzafrazz

Technology the pyramids were built using very (to our eyes) crude technology, using hammer stones, fire and water, bronze saw driven grit saws, etc. No sign of "high" technology but technology appropriate to their culture at that time and clearly linked to developments in the neolithic.

As Chistopher Dunne has pointed out,
www.theglobaleducationproject.org...
there are pyramid granite blocks that have large, deep, drilled holes with narrow spiral grooves cut in them that CLEARLY indicate the ancient Egyptians used a form of drilling with drill bits that could cut through granite. Making them would be a challenge even to current technology. Read his study of the evidence. Then perhaps you won't make statements that are totally uninformed. Copper chisels simply does not cut it!

One comment I have seen is "why would the builders of the pyramids use all different size stones to make the pyramid?"... This is viewed as a sign of lack of sophistication and inefficient.. but what if this is like everything else about the Pyramid - there was a very specific purpose for this.. even if it took extra time... and it is more than just heterogenous construction...

It's about resonance..

www.goldennumber.net...

Phi gives superior acoustics in speaker wire design

Cardas Audio uses a patented design (U.S. Patent Number 4,628,151) for speaker wires that is based on the golden section. Each strand is in a phi proportion to the others.

According to Cardas:

"Alternating current can shake a wire like a guitar string. The signal's cyclic effect causes all the wire in the system to vibrate and ring to the resonance of the alternating current. Each and every strand in a cable has its own note or beat. Two or more wires of the same mass and tension have common resonating points and share the same note.

There is only one way to eliminate the harmonic or resonant effect produced by the conductor itself. Create a multiple strand conductor, where the individual strands share no common mathematical node or resonant point and in effect absorb or cancel the noise they each create.

The infinitely indivisible progression known as the golden section is the key to resonance control. No other cable geometry, no other conductor design, can create the listening magic of Golden Section Stranding. In Golden Section Stranding, strands are arranged so that every strand is coupled to another, whose note is irrational with its own dissipating conductor resonance. This creates a silenced conductor, allowing Cardas cable to produce the purest possible audio signal. No other cable geometry, no other conductor design, can create the listening magic of Golden Section Stranding."

There are many different possible reasons for this.. I wonder if it could be built into their buildings for symbolic reasons? I feel their entire technology may have been based on this. To understand more on this you need to read -

Christopher Dunn's book - Giza Powerplant
Check out Dr. Judy Wood's site on the Twin Towers being brought down

pearlsofwar.blogspot.com...

It is said that the egyptians used some of their temples and pyramids for medical experiments using sound waves. Did you know that cats heal themselves with that sound they make (purr).www.altmeds.com...

We all know that egyptians loved cats. maybe they were inspired by that and tried to replicate it.

Sound Healing in ancient times.

One other thing related to the acoustics is that they might have used vibrations for ultrasonic levitation devices to lift heavy blocks. I think the acoustics are an important feature of the pyramids.
www.humanresonance.org...

Howdy Micpsi

Originally posted by micpsi

As Chistopher Dunne has pointed out,
there are pyramid granite blocks that have large, deep, drilled holes with narrow spiral grooves cut in them that CLEARLY indicate the ancient Egyptians used a form of drilling with drill bits that could cut through granite. Making them would be a challenge even to current technology. Read his study of the evidence. Then perhaps you won't make statements that are totally uninformed. Copper chisels simply does not cut it!

Mr. Dunne is sadly mistaken and is not considered an authority on AE tool techniques due to his habit of making stuff up. The AE used drill tubes with quartz sand to cut plugs. Copper tools work very well on limestone. Our present technology has no problem cutting thru granite. I would suggest not blindly believing in every fringe claim without researching yourself.

Study of how AE may have used drills

The above link does a extensive look at these questions (with images)

The following are more general looks at AE tools and techniques

AE Tools

More AE tools and techniques

Ideas on sound being used. This is a new age idea to givea 'rational' basis to the concept of the AE using magic. The easiest way to deal with this idea is to ask the believers in this to explain the evidence from the stone themselves that show how they were created, shaped and moved.....to counter that gentleman and ladies you'll need to reproduce this alleged AE power....good luck

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I agree 100%. I dno't know why this isn't being explored more. Check out a device called a Repulsine by Viktor Schauberger.

Also.. I think something related to this was used in 9-11 as well. The Twin Towers were huge tuning forks. they were designed based on the Giza pyrmaids. I think this may be the secret society related to Giza builders.

reply to post by Hanslune


How do you propose those cuts were made in those black stones around the pyramid? The ones that look like they were cut with modern saw blades?

Originally posted by 8311-XHT
reply to post by Hanslune

 

How do you propose those cuts were made in those black stones around the pyramid? The ones that look like they were cut with modern saw blades?

Howdy

Do you mean the remnants of the paving stone stones in temple areas or something else? Or are you referring to the scraps of diorite found in the waste?

If you look at the links I provided above you'll see a detailed description how they cleaved it for straight lines using percussion or more commonly using wooden wedges to split the stone. You can see evidence of this technique in the AE quarries. If you talking about a softer stone they used 'saws' with quartz grit.




Is the image above what you are referring to?

reply to post by Hanslune


Hello

I am not sure of the location. They did appear to be paving stones. They were in the section of the docuemntary showing the side by side cuts with modern cut stone. Thin deep lines.

Are you famiiar with Puma Punku (sp)

They had even more incredible lines in these stones that appear to be far too prcise to be done by hand on such large stones. It is possible these people had some incredible sotne working abilties developed over time but I find this less plausible than past advanced civilizations.

Originally posted by 8311-XHT
reply to post by Hanslune

 

Hello

I am not sure of the location. They did appear to be paving stones. They were in the section of the docuemntary showing the side by side cuts with modern cut stone. Thin deep lines.

Are you famiiar with Puma Punku (sp)

They had even more incredible lines in these stones that appear to be far too prcise to be done by hand on such large stones. It is possible these people had some incredible sotne working abilties developed over time but I find this less plausible than past advanced civilizations.

I added an image to the reply above which may have been after you posted this message.

Saw with quartz grit, there are a number of places on the pyramids and lots more in the rest of AE where they cut to far and left such marks.

Yes I'm familar with PP

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But see those deep extra cuts are evidence to me that they had some kind of adavance tech. Because you wouldn't make so many haphazard deep cuts if you were doing this with man power. Those deep precise cuts seem to show it was easy work for them. Effortless. The entire pyramids and all the stone work indicate this.

This is going to sond crazy and I don't jave the info I researched that allowed me to come to this conclusion hadny.. but I am convinced these people had some method that allowed them to "soften" stone somehow. I don't know ff it involved resonance or accoustics or what but this is what i think we see indications of.

Originally posted by micpsi
As Chistopher Dunne has pointed out,
www.theglobaleducationproject.org...
there are pyramid granite blocks that have large, deep, drilled holes with narrow spiral grooves cut in them that CLEARLY indicate the ancient Egyptians used a form of drilling with drill bits that could cut through granite. Making them would be a challenge even to current technology. Read his study of the evidence. Then perhaps you won't make statements that are totally uninformed. Copper chisels simply does not cut it!

An extremely odd statement given that we all watcvhed Dunn drill a nice hole in granite himself using nothing but a copper hole saw and some sand on the show "Ancient Aliens."

Harte

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That was his proof it WASN'T done that way... because the grooves on the cut were completely different.