Wow... England Needs A Revolution...

Lol....only Brits could start a discussion about revolution and wind up talking about the ever so helpful tax man and the nice lady at the buroo.

reply to post by thoughtsfull


From an avowed Agnostic I say Amen to that my friend.

reply to post by christina-66


Haha totally true
We're all hobbits at heart!

If only it were still acceptable to go off to the colonies and trick the natives out of their wealth, always appealed to me has that!
Although these days I like the idea of moving to Kabul and opening an arcade! No fruit machines, just good honest 16 bit computer games, can't think of many places in the world which would be impressed by them, but I think Afghanistan's missed enough of the last 20 years to be impressed

Originally posted by thoughtsfull
reply to post by Freeborn

 

I know I say otherwise but deep down I honestly hope the legend is true... and even knowing the myth has probably been created to legitimise the church, the once and future king has not lost his shine in my eyes

besides meanings can be re-written, like Blakes poem giving us "Jerusalem" or Fauksian masks now representing dissent and freedom instead of treachery.. We certainly can re-write our own narrative and perhaps, find the bridge to reunite the aspects that keep us divided.

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I think the Arthur legend is a very real part of the fabric that makes up this islands soul.

Even now the mention of Arthur evokes reverence and a longing of the new Camelot/Jerusalem.

I have often daydreamed about Arthur and his knights laying asleep in a cave waiting for that call to arms in Englands darkest hour but the reality is that the spirit of this legend has come true many times as men from all walks of life heeded the call and protected this land over and again.

reply to post by EvanB


You know, it would the reduce the bickering in the US if the cons and the libs get their own countries. Same with your island.

reply to post by EvanB


I always think of Arthur as being more of a Welsh thing personally. Have you ever read any of the stories of the Mabinogion? en.wikipedia.org...
All the stuff you think of as Arthurian actually appears in there WAY before the death of Arthur is written (And you get to read of the kings before like Llud), but it doesn't get any attention because for whatever reason people don't think that Britain had a culture before it was imported/written up by other people.

reply to post by MaxSteiner


I am sadly planning on leaving - in reality. Not just spouting on here. I've been up against the system (via the courts) for more than a decade now. The only place left to go is the House of Lords. No intention of doing that - I want to participate in the human world again - as opposed to the lawyers wacky wonderland.

The cabal up here is frightening. We have corrupt officials and professionals operating in rings and supporting each other - at the heart of it all is a thing called the 'master insurance policy' for solicitors' negligence - the English Law Society has the probs...there are just greater numbers so your old boy network isn't quite as tight. In fact it's an international racket of the legal fraternity.

Long story short - the insurance companies have our legal and political classes in their pockets for an absolute song. A large portion of our mp's start out as lawyers - no wonder we keep getting so many new laws. It's they know how to do.

Anyhow - I've got my eye on North Africa - give it a year or so imo and that will be a very exciting place to be.

Originally posted by DaveNorris
so if most of the country feels the same as we do why does nobody do anything about it, and what could they do anyway?

So you think you can dance? That is the cheesiest dance contest show I've ever seen in my life.

reply to post by eldard


There's not that much of a divide between the parties over here really, Parliment does it's job, which is leading the country down the middle road of the two parties.

The danger is, the parties are drifting more and more towards the center, so there's not much to seperate them any more, and the path between their two views is getting narrower and narrower.

The UK is more like a family, with feuds, it's black sheep, angry words and rivalry. But we're still a family, and I think even the most angry of us realise that from time to time.

reply to post by christina-66


Do you know theres actually 2 places on the planet which noone owns? I've always thought that might be the place for me! Admitadly one of them is in the artic, and the other is a spot of Africa so bad that noone wants to claim it, but the thought of starting a new country always appeals

I'm somewhat limited by where I can go though, my body can't cope with temps above 30 degrees, and I never seem to get used to it.

reply to post by MaxSteiner


Greek islands - going cheap.

Bloody bankers!

reply to post by christina-66


Haha I hadn't thought of that actually.
Portugal and Spain are quite cheap now too!

That's one benefit of all this. Harsh as it is over here, its worse pretty much everywhere else, and our money is still worth quite a bit
(I wonder how much an island is, a group purchase would be an awesome way to opt out of the system!).

My long term plan is getting a business which I can operate abroad whilst still earning a UK wage, seems like the best of both worlds really.

(Infact I always think thats what the world is heading towards, places like France Germany and UK are where young people work, and the old folk retire to the poor countries, in a constant cycle, seems fairest on everyone really)

reply to post by MaxSteiner


You can purchase the occasional hunk of barren rock in Scotland for about million. I'd prefer the climate of the Greek islands any day.

Anyhow - you had the same thought as me - a group purchase - and then a declaration of independence Hell it would be way cheaper than your average mortgage if you got 500 people together...it could be a co-op country.

reply to post by stumason


see i can tell by your venacular that you live a somewhat pompous, middle-class lifestyle, or pertain to so it surprises me not one bit that you haven't encountered the things I've seen. Went to use a public phone once only to find the mouthpiece covered in human excrement.

do yourself a favour and get out of your culdesac once in a while and you'll see

reply to post by christina-66


I can go one better than that though
Conquor an existing microstate!

The nearest one is Seaworld, a disused seafort which declaired independance in the 70's. As far as I know it ended up ebing sold to a corperation who didn't want to pay tax anymore around 7 years ago, and never gets mentioned anymore....
But as far as invasions go, its a valid target, and you could charge the corperation tax at around 1% of their earnings and they'd probably pay it!

All you'd need is a couple of swords and a helicopter to take it as well...

reply to post by nexusferox


At least it had a mouth piece! Most of the ones round my area have been smashed lol.

reply to post by MaxSteiner


Wow!!! It was up for sale

The courntry is measured in square meters
January 14, 2007

One of the world's smallest countries is up for sale. Only one family and some employees live there and all of them have homes elsewhere so this is more like buying an expensive (very expensive in that the sellers would like an eight figure amount – we are talking ten to ninety-nine million dollars here) home than a country.

Despite its small size, the country is not over crowded. Most of it is flat with living and accommodations consisting of two towers, one at either end of the nation, each having eight rooms. All rooms have an unobstructed view of the surrounding sea.

Source

I'm sure we could get a Greek island for much less than that.

Originally posted by christina-66
reply to post by MaxSteiner

 

You can purchase the occasional hunk of barren rock in Scotland for about million. I'd prefer the climate of the Greek islands any day.

Anyhow - you had the same thought as me - a group purchase - and then a declaration of independence

Hell it would be way cheaper than your average mortgage if you got 500 people together...it could be a co-op country.

So why can't you do that here?

There are at least 3 (within 15 miles of me) towns/villages that already do declare themselves independent of the rest of the Country..

The independent state of Cuckfield declared their "universal declaration of independence" in 1965 and have their own stamps, passports and currency (granted it is called the cuckoo) and just up the road from me is the Independent Kingdom of Cliffe.. tho am not sure why they call themselves a Kingdom since they hold presidential elections *shakes head* but Lewes has the Lewisian pound as it's currency.

But then again it might simply be the mentality of the people around here... a part of Hastings declared independence in the 1820s.. well actually they went a bit further than that by running up the stars and stripes and declared themselves the 24th state of the American Union and it took the Crown Inquisition 7 years to reclaim that land

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reply to post by sapien82


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Wish you much luck my friend, you won't regret feeding that creative animal.

Originally posted by christina-66
Lol....only Brits could start a discussion about revolution and wind up talking about the ever so helpful tax man and the nice lady at the buroo.

edit on 1-9-2011 by christina-66 because: (no reason given)

Yeah lol

But are taxmen not people too?

Maybe not hey?