Horror Of Horrors!!

Can't watch these types of videos. I don't know why, but even regular "humane" slaughterhouse videos are rough for me to watch. Don't get me wrong though I like to eat meat, I love bacon, and eggs, and steak and turkey. Depending on how it's prepared, sometimes though for some unknown reason I do have trouble eating meat. It's a strange feeling I get every so often and I start to get grossed out, it usually happens with chicken, or with deli sliced turkey of all things, don't know why.

It's wierd I have an easier time watching humans get beheaded or shot, that watching people clubbing seals. Maybe because in my heart I know all humans are sinners at heart. I'm not religious at all, but for some reason I see animals as "innocent" and even the nicest human being isn't perfectly "innocent" like a baby seal is. Wierd I know but I just cannot watch animals being abused by people.

If it's NatGeo and they're showing lions killing and eating a baby gazelle alive or what have you, it doesn't really bother me. It's all so hypocritical of me I know I don't understand it myself.

Originally posted by gentledissident
Wow, it had the opposite effect on me. I just figured that's why cows are so beefy. They go straight to the protein source, vegetation. So, everyone else that stops eating meat becomes fragile?

That's because we do not have a four compartments stomach, like cows do, and only one of those four compartments works as our own stomachs, all other compartments are needed to change the plants they eat into digestable food that goes into the stomach that works as the human stomach.

As we do not have that "pre-processing" we cannot get all the nutrients cows (and other herbivores) get.

We are just not made for that.

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I thank you for bringing this kind of abuse to our attention. It seems situations such as this, which are as they said "standard", arise and are tossed aside for the next issue. Now, I'm not saying I'm going to stop eating chicken. However, I cannot stand idly by knowing full well the kind of abuse we put animals through just because we want more food on the table. It's not even about need anymore. I'm an American, and I can tell you for a fact there are starving people here. There are also people who consistently make 3x the amount of food they need for every meal. I don't even want to get started on the fast food industry (recently took a manager position at a popular fast food joint). There is a tremendous amount of food wasted every day. If we all just cut back and stopped being such fatties we wouldn't have to produce food at the rate we currently are. Of course, this doesn't mean the industries which are performing this abuse are going to stop. Alas, in the words of John Lennon "...You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one..."

Originally posted by nyk537
I suppose some may wonder....what's the point of treating them "kindly" and "gently" if they are still going to meet the same fate?

One (selfish) reason is that the meat is better if the animal is not stressed in any way, the other is that I don't see any reason not to be kind with any living creature.

Will the chicks feel better about being killed and eaten if they are not handled "roughly"?

No, but they would taste better, and that's what most people want.

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Yes, there are better ways, in the EU the animals should be unconscious when they are killed.

Originally posted by fbipeeperjr
The do-do bird would not be instinct if we found it great in duck sause.

The Dodo bird wouldn't be extinct if we didn't kill them over and over again until there was no more to kill. They had no predators in their natural habitat. We brought the predators to them, plundered their nests and ate them. Also, any written accounts of the Dodo's meat will show you it wasn't that good at all.

Originally posted by ArMaP
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Yes, there are better ways, in the EU the animals should be unconscious when they are killed.

But why should they be killed at all? Their lives are worth more than mere food stuff. It's human arrogance to the point of delusion.

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sorry. not watching the movie
can't bare it

s&f tho

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That's why we have our own chickens. They get treats for breakfast, lunch and dinner and in return, we always have fresh eggs. They free range once in a while, but it's limited because usually we have a hawk in the area. They get closed in their coop nightly, but have a nice shady yard in daytime. We have happy chickens.

Originally posted by Anunaki2012
Its time for Mankind to leave this planet, i mean serious..we all have to die..we are not worth it to live.

I dont need to watch the ops vid, your response says it all really. Shame on us.

Originally posted by McGinty
Why is it wrong for Nazis to treat other races this way, but seen as ok to do it to helpless animals?

It's not the same thing, humans and chicken are different species and humans eat chicken, the Nazis did what they did to other members of the same species, and not for food, so while both things are wrong, doing it to the same species and without any real reason is worse than killing other species for food, at least in my opinion.

Originally posted by rexusdiablos
But why should they be killed at all? Their lives are worth more than mere food stuff. It's human arrogance to the point of delusion.

It's not human arrogance, we need food.

Although humans are not really carnivores, we are not herbivores either, we are omnivores.

Is a worm's live worth more than mere food stuff for the chicken?

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha... nice compilation.
I just saw this, this week on "how it's made". Although you or the animal rights group, put in some parts that wasn't in that show. Maybe, "How it's made" took some parts out? I am curious though to find out what they do with the ground up baby chicks, feathers and all. Is that profitable? Wouldn't they make more money if they , oh I don't know... let them grow and become dinner chickens or egg production. Perhaps there are countrys that prefer baby chick with feather ground meat. I'm just not used to it. More info on this would be great like, do they taste like kittens?

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I've been a vegetarian for 20 years. In that time, I've put on muscle weight and my body has grown. I'm now 6'1' 240lbs and shoe size 12. The wii says I'm obese, but I don't look it, as it's muscle weight. Before I became a vegetarian in my 20's, I was 6' 180lbs and shoe size 11. I have what I think is amazing strength and stamina. I barely need sleep, and my mind functions well enough to handle demanding tasks and learn. Are you saying that this is only temporary, and I'm about to suffer the repercussions of becoming a vegetarian?

Came across these articles about how humans are omnivores and even archeology proves we've always have been eating meat. The biological proofs are also discussed in the articles.

www.biology-online.org...

www.straightdope.com...

Originally posted by ArMaP

Originally posted by McGinty
Why is it wrong for Nazis to treat other races this way, but seen as ok to do it to helpless animals?

It's not the same thing, humans and chicken are different species and humans eat chicken, the Nazis did what they did to other members of the same species, and not for food, so while both things are wrong, doing it to the same species and without any real reason is worse than killing other species for food, at least in my opinion.

I agree they are different, but i'm attempting the comparison to get through the 'we eat chicken so we can't complain' knee jerk reaction. Does being another species really mean it is less wrong

'wrong' is surely subjective, so you are really saying that you personally don't think this as wrong killing humans - subjectification of this 'dumb' creature is being used to say inter species killing is worse than cross species killing. IMO no can make that judgement. I'd rather say this is wrong and indefensible under any comparison, than use comparison to homicide to say 'well, at least this ain't as wrong as that', so i can feel slightly better about.

I don't see how being a vegetarian makes one more compassionate. Hitler was a vegetarian and he mass slaughtered people. See you cant use weak arguments to get people to convert to your crazy fundamentalist vegetarian/vegan ways. Humans have always eaten meat and always will. Give it a rest and stop acting like you're better than everyone else because you don't eat animals.

Originally posted by IlluminatusOculus33
I don't see how being a vegetarian makes one more compassionate. Hitler was a vegetarian and he mass slaughtered people.....

No, being a vegetarian doesn't excuse genocide !!

But it does mean that you're not contributing to the mass suffering shown in the video, unlike we chicken-eaters...

Originally posted by gentledissident
Are you saying that this is only temporary, and I'm about to suffer the repercussions of becoming a vegetarian?

I don't know, from what I have seen it depends on the person, some people's organism appear to be more adaptable to a vegetarian diet than others.

My sister has a friend that had to stop being a vegetarian because his body was not getting all the things it needed to keep healthy, if I remember it well he even started to lose hair, and that stopped when he returned to a omnivorous diet.

Edit: there was a post somewhere on this thread that talked about vitamin B; the problem is vitamin B12, which only exists in animals or bacteria.

It's a suprise they survive through this movement device. And i dont see the purpose in moving them like that through this device. Almost seems like they are making things harder. Why wouldnt a simple conveyor belt work?