New ATS Member Claiming To Have Important Warning/Information. You Be The Judge...

reply to post by crazydaisy


Questions are how we learn!!

Just ask Puterman, I have harrassed him for a couple of years now.

reply to post by westcoast


So, you're the reason he's always grumpy.

reply to post by CLPrime


I don't know,he gets really grumpy when I link and post something like this......please be gentle.

A major geomagnetic storm which began at about 15:00 UT today was associated with a major change in the Hp strength of the global geomagnetic field which oscillated strongly for the next five hours. This was accompanied by strong changes in electron flux at ionospheric levels. Several hours after the storm reached its maximum, a strong earthquake of M 6.4 hit the Vancouver Island region of British Columbia just south of eastern Alaska. The earthquake in Vancouver occurred within an hour of local solar noon, (the quake was at 19:41 UT, local solar noon is 20:25 UT) the time of maximum likely triggering from solar-geophysical events on seismicity. This had been anticipated in our summary yesterday in the "GEOMAGNETIC" section where we issued a seismic watch in response to this anticipated storm with the maximum area of likelihood for a major event in eastern Alaska and vicinity. Our watch which has been on this summary for the past three days stated in full:

www.earthquakesummary.info...

reply to post by kdog1982


Wow, geomagnetic storm then an
earthquake. I knew about the storm
but didn't think about it when I heard
of the quake. I have been reading
articles regarding the possible
connection. Very interesting - and
it just happened.

Originally posted by crazydaisy
reply to post by kdog1982

 

Wow, geomagnetic storm then an
earthquake. I knew about the storm
but didn't think about it when I heard
of the quake. I have been reading
articles regarding the possible
connection. Very interesting - and
it just happened.

It is interesting,but I don't know how credible it is.
Just one other thing I keep an eye on.
Sometimes I have too many irons in the fire ,you might say.
Today I have my earthquake prediction hat on,tomorrow it might be the radiation threat from Japan,the next,solar flares,comet elenin,ufo's.Hurricane's are my most favorite.Been through a few,and I like to keep people informed on what might come their way..

reply to post by kdog1982


I hear you, today its been my
earthquake and terror alert hat.


I have been thru hurricanes as well,
I wear my weather hat all the time.

I've got a friend of mine that has some training in psychology taking a closer look at tmiddlebrook's posts for a preliminary assessment.

He's a busy person, both IRL and here on the forums so it may be a bit before we hear anything, but rest assured when we do it should provide at least a modicum of insight as to the honesty of our mystery poster.

Huge thanks to everyone participating in this and the other related threads.

As has been seen time and again within these forums, the members of ATS really are some of the sharpest and keen minds on the Internet.

reply to post by jadedANDcynical


Looking forward to that assessment,and thank you for putting the puzzle together and helping us help you.
We share ideas and knowledge,some good ,some not.
But for the most part,it is all for a common good.
In the long run,if it turns out to be just a bunch of crap,we have learned a lot.

I really loathe cloak and dagger behavior, so I've been agonizing over posting anything abou this at all but I di want to let those interested in this thread know (as I see that several of you are online presently) that I have gotten the initial assessment from the friend I asked to have a look into this.

For reasons I don't want go into presently (the main one being I'm not certain I fully understand the implications of the assessment and I'm doing my own research to make sure I do) I won't be sharing the entire assement "in the open" but I will share this tidbit:

So : it's probably mostly real , but the truth behind it is ...immense, but uncertain

Please know that WC is fully aware of the content of the assessment and I am working with her on this, so hopefully soon will be able to share more. I have also asked for a bit of clarification on some of the things I think I've gleaned from the assessment to make sure I'm not too dense on the matter.

So : it's probably mostly real , but the truth behind it is ...immense, but uncertain

That would be my impression as well...as I have stated continuously (though, usually not in so few words).

I hope you guys can get the rest sorted out, to feel comfortable posting it. I'm very interested in what he had to say.

Just wanted to post this real quick before I run out.
In reference to the M8 algorithm prediction and keeping predictions secret.

www.mitp.ru...

I have a few other things,I will post when I get back.

Thinking more about the specifics of tmiddlebrook's posts and the phrase:

we're moving in the wrong direction.

And an earlier post says:

We all knew this would happen....

Now which "we" is beig referred to? And does tmiddlebrook consider themselves as part of this community (ATS) or is this a much larger "we" as in humanity as a whole? Are these two "we"s referring to the same collective or are they distinct?

The second almost wants to sound like someone who knows more than tmiddlebrook is saying they do.

The repeated "stay alert" and "be prepared" consistently in each post make sense within the subject matter and possible implications if this turns out to be legit and add quite a bit to the idea of this beig a concerned person wanting to "get the message out" as it were. Of course that could also be the contrivance of a very clever troll.

Which as time goes on, I find myself really hoping for because as the larger issues suggested begin to loom in my mind, the scale of what it leads to is a bit more than a little frightening.

Ok,I'm back and here is what I got.
They predicted the quake for Japan,but called it off in January 2011.

The premature termination of TIP in the 2011a Update of the Global Test of M8-MSc predictions happen to be due to the function Z1 (an inverse of the Zhurkov criterion, which is linear concentration of ruptures) anomaly threshold change from 2407 to 2440 bringing the voting scores from the required (and factual in the 2010b Update) 4:6/4:6 down to 4:6/4:5... A reasonable man would not even notice this change in one of the seven graphs involved in TIP diagnosis, while the prefixed in 1992 "black box" version of the M8 algorithm does.

www.mitp.ru...

Abbreviation: TIP, time of increased probability of a strong earthquake (an alarm).

Although the M8-MSc predictions are intermediate-term middle-range and by no means imply any "red alert", some colleagues have expressed a legitimate concern about maintaining necessary confidentiality. Therefore, the up-to-date predictions are not easily accessed, although available on the web-pages of restricted access provided to about 150 members of the Mailing List.

They may know something,but are not to alert the public.

And notice this link where access is restricted

www.mitp.ru...



Now,I have downloaded this power point presentation on how all this works,trying to figure out how to upload it.
I got it from this link.
www.lmd.ens.fr...

the file is [email protected]. It goes into great detail and how the have had alot of success predicting earthquake.

reply to post by kdog1982

Wow, The M8 detail in Tmiddlebrook's post has a much more clear meaning with this M8 algo for predictions, a reality.

You can see there is/are predictions for Cal/Nevada, on that site but it is restricted. Also for Italy, but no other areas.

More fuel to this fire.

reply to post by kdog1982


Anyone speak Russian? They have a phone list and email list. I know it is restricted and I am not suggesting we harass them but it would be interesting to see if they would share any information.

Good find, We are learning new stuff everyday aren't we.

I would guess since the "emails" were in english that the Russians must have alerted JPL somehow. Notice it says California and Nevada under predictions. Not Washington or Alaska, strange?

reply to post by Doodle19815

There is a mirror site at the University of Alberta,Canada,but I can't access anything on it.
And if it's in russian,google can translate it for you.
I thought I linked the english version.

reply to post by kdog1982


You linked english but I think if we were to email anyone it would have to be in Russian.

Thank you for doing the digging and finding this info. This could be priceless.
People List


Click people and go to alphabet listing.

I do wish Tmiddlebrook would check in
again, its been some time now since the
first message and the last.

Originally posted by crazydaisy
I do wish Tmiddlebrook would check in
again, its been some time now since the
first message and the last.

Being that only 150 people are privey to this stuff,if he is associated with any of them,I think they could have found out who it was.

reply to post by kdog1982


I didn't think ATS allowed conversations about banned members to take place. So we couldn't discuss ahem, but we can discuss this guy? Does ATS distribute a post-ban discussion guide?