Did Irene Just Divide in TWO?

Everything you ever wanted to know about Hurricane Edna (1954) as a Storm to compare to Hurricane Irene
(Aug. 26, 2011 in terms of a ' Split Eye '.

docs.lib.noaa.gov...

Low intensity early developing tropical cyclones can produce multiple cyclonic fields wherein eventually the
strongest one will prevail. As for myself, I have a real hard time thinking a full blown Hurricane can do so.

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C'mon people. Get it together. There's a dangerous storm out there, and peoples' lives are likely to be lost. Let's quit quibbling.

The new eye wall is trying to form but will likely make the hurricane weaker.Still looks like they are gonna get a tone of rain and water from it.

Originally posted by Q2IN2Y
If this hurricane turns out to be nothing but a strong tropical storm, I will resign from ATS.

Do you want your final wages in cash or by cheque?

Originally posted by exo87

Originally posted by My.mind.is.mine
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I'm not fear mongering, I'm HOPING!!

NO MORE JERSEY SHORE!
NO MORE JERSEY SHORE!
NO MORE JERSEY SHORE!
NO MORE JERSEY SHORE!

That's very understandable lol!

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FYI: Almost all the members of Jersey Shore are from the NYC metro area.

Which is getting hit as well. Keep the beach itself, just let Snookie, the Situation and the rest of them get blown away with Irene.

On the note of a second eye forming - it would only be a second eye if a calm center (yellow) was observed.

I mean, it may reduce damage to have it split into two...Or just damage a wider area...

The part that people are identifying as a second eye tends to be the most intense area of a hurricane as far as wind speeds are concerned.

I love how they are putting a dollar amount on the potential damage... I wonder if all the top level executives from the big insurance agencies have bets going on how much damage actually occurs and how much they can screw their customers out of claims. I'm sure there must be some secret incentitive for the office or group that sucessfully denies the most claims.

Originally posted by SeekerDave007
Everything you ever wanted to know about Hurricane Edna (1954) as a Storm to compare to Hurricane Irene
(Aug. 26, 2011 in terms of a ' Split Eye '.

docs.lib.noaa.gov...

Thank you for this document...

It is very interesting.

Here you go guys. Play with the settings to get all types of cool views of this hurricane.
Naval Satellite Service

The main storm is some 400 miles wide

Originally posted by evolv
Here you go guys. Play with the settings to get all types of cool views of this hurricane.
Naval Satellite Service

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If that photo is legitimate than it does appear to be a rather weak tropical storm.

The eye isn't even clear? It's totally filled in with visible cloud activity.

I am not an expert with this type of satellite imagery technique, so is it an optical illusion that the 'eye' section is actually cloud covered?

I google'd "Hurricane photo space" and got a list of pics all having open eyes with very little cloud activity visible within that eye.

I then google'd "Tropical storm photo space" and it listed photographs of hurricane shaped storms but with the eye section filled in with cloud activity which was clearly visible.

Am I wrong here?

Originally posted by exo87
No It did not! It could be wind sheer affecting the upper body of the hurricane giving the effect it is splitting in 2. Hurricanes and cyclones do not split in 2 like cells lol.

Maybe it doesn't perform mitosis but this particular hurricane is asexual........cause for all I care, it can go F*** itself.

Originally posted by muzzleflash

Originally posted by evolv
Here you go guys. Play with the settings to get all types of cool views of this hurricane.
Naval Satellite Service

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If that photo is legitimate than it does appear to be a rather weak tropical storm.

The eye isn't even clear? It's totally filled in with visible cloud activity.

I am not an expert with this type of satellite imagery technique, so is it an optical illusion that the 'eye' section is actually cloud covered?

I google'd "Hurricane photo space" and got a list of pics all having open eyes with very little cloud activity visible within that eye.

I then google'd "Tropical storm photo space" and it listed photographs of hurricane shaped storms but with the eye section filled in with cloud activity which was clearly visible.

Am I wrong here?

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Here is what Wikipedia states:

In strong tropical cyclones, the eye is characterized by light winds and clear skies, surrounded on all sides by a towering, symmetric eyewall. In weaker tropical cyclones, the eye is less well-defined, and can be covered by the central dense overcast, which is an area of high, thick clouds that show up brightly on satellite imagery. Weaker or disorganized storms may also feature an eyewall that does not completely encircle the eye, or have an eye that features heavy rain. In all storms, however, the eye is the location of the storm's minimum barometric pressure: the area where the atmospheric pressure at sea level is the lowest. (Wikipedia)

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Thank you, so according to our prior data this is a weaker tropical storm at this point.

That puts everything into context.

I feel bad that I couldn't have wiki'd it myself. Doh.

As a person who has experienced quite a lot of hurricanes in my past, been in FL for a LOONG time, I can tell you that Irene is nothing out of the ordinary and no there isn't a second storm eye... really guys, a second storm eye? What's next? "The guvament made da big swirlies!"?

As we speak, the rotating front described as your "Second eye!" is slamming into the north east coast and looks NOTHING like a secondary formation of anything, other than brute hurricane force.

I'm all for a weather phenomena, but cmon', don't go titling a thread something you're not even sure about.

OP, you get no flag, no star for the following reasons:

- Fear mongering inadvertently without just cause.
- Creating a 'too simple' thread with only a selective image to suggest the fear mongering
- Placing a title on a thread that suggests something when posting that you know nothing of it.

And to anyone who supported the fear mongering:

Shame on you...

Originally posted by seenavv

Small eyes—those less than 10 nmi (19 km, 12 mi) across—often trigger eyewall replacement cycles, where a new eyewall begins to form outside the original eyewall. This can take place anywhere from ten to a few hundred miles (fifteen to hundreds of kilometers) outside the inner eye.The storm then develops two concentric eyewalls, or an "eye within an eye". In most cases, the outer eyewall begins to contract soon after its formation, which chokes off the inner eye and leaves a much larger but more stable eye.While the replacement cycle tends to weaken storms as it occurs, the new eyewall can contract fairly quickly after the old eyewall dissipates, allowing the storm to re-strengthen. This may trigger another cycle of eyewall replacement.[8]

ACCORDING TO WIKI

en.wikipedia.org...(cyclone)

My interpretation of this is an eye within an eye. Like a bullseye and not like O O a pair situated as such. Either way, someone just posted a link to a case of it happening. Still, I'm not sure that this is what the wiki snippet here is referring to.

Originally posted by graceunderpressure
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C'mon people. Get it together. There's a dangerous storm out there, and peoples' lives are likely to be lost. Let's quit quibbling.

Great idea, we should listen to these words and heed them. Lives will be lost, there can be no question about that. We must do all we can to save lives!

And um, True American, I just want to say, I have noticed your contributions to the movement and I appriciate them very much. Thank you for your efforts, in this, the final chapter. We need more human beings like you with heart and soul.

I live in new jersey and most of my family has to be evacuated so im stocking up on supplies because in our neighborhood we loose power whenever it rains. since my family is leaving they have to come to my house for a few days. If the hurricane split in 2 maybe half will miss new jersey and half will hit it so only half as bad right?

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As a person who has experienced quite a lot of hurricanes in my past, been in FL for a LOONG time, I can tell you that Irene is nothing out of the ordinary and no there isn't a second storm eye... really guys, a second storm eye? What's next? "The guvament made da big swirlies!"?

So in your opinion this is all a none event?......seriously, I live in a country that never experiences these sort of events, so I'm interested to hear from people that have.

Why do you think that your president is making this out to be so serious?

Do you really consider this Hurricane to be a normal event, considering where it is forecasted to hit?

Originally posted by buskey
Well, well......ain't weather manipulation a bitch? It's not nice to fool with mother nature.....

not nice to fool mother nature.....or batman