Aliens. Evil or not?

Originally posted by Required01

Originally posted by Nikola014

Originally posted by Required01

Originally posted by Nikola014

Originally posted by Required01

Originally posted by Nikola014
Wait people,just stop for one second.I don't think you realize how many civilizations exist beside ours.
Of course there are evil aliens,and of course there are a good ones.
They can't all be good or evil.

But we should be more focus on how to get Disclosure first.

edit on 24-8-2011 by Nikola014 because: (no reason given)

Good or Evil is an experience, they don't exist. People here live in duality, while this is not reality, we created it. There is no wright or wrong, good or evil, there all how you experience them.

There are people that could never kill a human being and see it as bad/wrong/evil, yet there are people that don't even have to think twice to kill a human, and see nothing bad/wrong/evil in it.

Indeed we have no clue how many civilizations are out there, nor how they view 'reality'. Experience is key.

Yea,right.
Do you really think they are so different then us?
I doubt that.

Yes i do, because if they are as 'destructive' and primitive minded as we are today, we would already have been 'invaded' countless of times if aliens where already here! We take what we want, any struggle and we use violence and war.

So yes they are way more advanced then us, i use this phrase a lot: Mankind did not advance, Technology did.

Do you think aliens have "democracy"?

They are abducting us,abducting our kids,killing animals and who knows what else..

Please show us ANY concrete proof that ALIENS no matter the race are behind ANY abductions or animal mutilations. Don't come on with 'whitness accounts' and 'stories' that is not proof.

And why would you say aliens have a 'democracy'? Could you elaborate that?

then show me proof they are not evil?

Originally posted by Nikola014

Originally posted by Required01

Originally posted by Nikola014

Originally posted by Required01

Originally posted by Nikola014

Originally posted by Required01

Originally posted by Nikola014
Wait people,just stop for one second.I don't think you realize how many civilizations exist beside ours.
Of course there are evil aliens,and of course there are a good ones.
They can't all be good or evil.

But we should be more focus on how to get Disclosure first.

edit on 24-8-2011 by Nikola014 because: (no reason given)

Good or Evil is an experience, they don't exist. People here live in duality, while this is not reality, we created it. There is no wright or wrong, good or evil, there all how you experience them.

There are people that could never kill a human being and see it as bad/wrong/evil, yet there are people that don't even have to think twice to kill a human, and see nothing bad/wrong/evil in it.

Indeed we have no clue how many civilizations are out there, nor how they view 'reality'. Experience is key.

Yea,right.
Do you really think they are so different then us?
I doubt that.

Yes i do, because if they are as 'destructive' and primitive minded as we are today, we would already have been 'invaded' countless of times if aliens where already here! We take what we want, any struggle and we use violence and war.

So yes they are way more advanced then us, i use this phrase a lot: Mankind did not advance, Technology did.

Do you think aliens have "democracy"?

They are abducting us,abducting our kids,killing animals and who knows what else..

Please show us ANY concrete proof that ALIENS no matter the race are behind ANY abductions or animal mutilations. Don't come on with 'whitness accounts' and 'stories' that is not proof.

And why would you say aliens have a 'democracy'? Could you elaborate that?

then show me proof they are not evil?

You claim they abduct and mutilate animals, so the burden of proof is on you.

I stated that good and evil is an EXPERIENCE, and not a REALITY. So if you experience something to be evil that does not make it evil to someone not experiencing it the same way you do.

But i explained that not 3 posts ago, so maybe read a bit more careful, then you might get what people are saying and not burden them with explaining something over and over again.

So again, please so me proof that aliens are behind mutilations and abductions.
Also why did you state aliens have a democracy?

Just like any life form, there is good and evil in everything. I would have to say their are both sides of the scale here. Now the question should be which group weight out the other. The saying goes the good always weight out the bad. Sorry that would have to go with populous of them, on which group has more population. But Aliens are both good and evil, to our standards.

Seing as though you've asked for peoples opinions let me share the islamic view point. That is Aliens are just one of the many forms that the jinn(genie) take, yes there are good jinn and bad jinn, but the good jinn dont really interact with us, one of the the jinns test in life is to stay out of our dimension, they are concealed from human eyes most of the time until they chose to come into our dimension. The evil jinn(shaytans/satans) want to steer us every way except to GOD, so basically whatever your(or the civilizations) vulnerablities are they will prey on them.

There are many types of jinns, some who can fly, some who cant, so as to what their true form is I cant say, do some look like aliens in their true form? maybe, although they may just have chosen to take that form in order to misguide mankind in whatever direction(eg..tell people: they are our star gods, our creators, more evolved than us, that you're an indigo child, etc, etc, etc). One thing is for certain and that is that they have better tehonology than us. Jinn have lead many an ancient and modern civilisation astray from worshipping the ONE TRUE UNSEEN GOD. There are countless narrations throughout Islamic teachings where the jinn are mentioned, they have many religions/sects just like humans, and as mentioned they undergo their own test in life, except a group of them(satans, with their leader called Iblis who has his throne on water) who know full well they are going to hell when they die and they are the ones who will devise any plan they can to stop us from worshipping the CREATOR in order to get praise from their leader Iblis and in an attempt to prove to themselves that they are better than man. Some of their cunning tricks talked about in Islamic teachings include:

-taking the form of a dead person, for instance they may do this in order to prey on a relatives vulnerabilities to re-unite with a lost one and go on to give them false/contradictive information which will lead them astray. One example is a civilisation who had a beloved king and when that king died the jinn hid the body and then took the form of this king and went on ruling over that civilsation until a prophet was sent to them.
-abduct humans into their dimension/realm for multiple reasons, an example is given within Islamic teachings of a particular abduction where a man was taken by the jinn but ended up being saved by the good jinn who returned him to his home
-have sex with humans and even attempt to form a relationship/marriage with a human
-posession, including at times leaving someone they may have possessed under an erroneously performed exorcism in order to give the one possessed(and the witnesses) faith in whatever false god the exorcist may have called on
-taking the form of man/women and walking around in our dimension as if they are one of us
-taking the form of animals at times
-attempting to get man to involve themself in magik rituals(which are all forbidden, in fact calling on the jinn at all is forbidden), where man actually believes they have power over the jinn when in reality the jinn has a cunning agenda behind doing anything for the magician/witch/soothsayer/fortune-teller/psychic/etc, the main agenda above all is to take the adherant away from worshipping the CREATOR, which can be seen by the more vile a magician/sorcerer/etc gets in their rituals the more powr the shaytans will give them(only to leave them destitute at some stage before the persons death). Aliester Crowley, would be an example here, along with the rest of the masonic/kabbalists/zionist-magi who have great pull in the world we live in at one stage or another.

Basically the jinn has hassled mankind since day one, whispering evil to some of the best of men. Another form of jinn is the one every human is prescribed from birth that is on his/her left shoulder that whipsers evil to mankind(ever get a thought that come to you that just dont seem to be from yourself?), we all also have an angel who whispers good that is on his/her right shoulder to counteract the jinn. The more one leans towards wrong-doing the stronger their jinn gets and the less the angel will intervene(whisper), the more one leans towards righteousness the weaker their jinn gets and the more the angel will whisper. Of course most of these whisperings(good and evil) we will assume are coming from ourselves, with the odd person who is considered a mad-man/women who will say that they hear voices in their head when the jinn is trying to drive them over the edge to suicide/complete-madness/etc.

Some of the many forms it appears that jinn have taken over time include - aliens/ghosts/ghouls/goblins/fairies/men/women/gnomes, and the list goes on. They will often prey on ones fears and if they think that wont work then they will pretend to be your friend in order to get you to adhere to whatever diatribe they chose to spin.

There is a huge amount of information about the jinn, this barely touches the surface of this topic and the bible also talks about almost every point that I've raised above but of course gives different titles to these jinns, like nephilim/etc.

To answer the OP's question directly, "aliens, evil or not?" YES, almost certainly in every case regardless of how they are perceived at the time.

Originally posted by Required01
...Good or Evil is an experience, they don't exist. People here live in duality, while this is not reality, we created it. There is no wright or wrong, good or evil, there all how you experience them...

If you, or a loved one, were to be kidnapped and tortured for no other reason than your tormentor enjoys your pain, I'm betting you might feel a little bit different about that. Just a guess though. Peace.

Originally posted by The GUT

Originally posted by Required01
...Good or Evil is an experience, they don't exist. People here live in duality, while this is not reality, we created it. There is no wright or wrong, good or evil, there all how you experience them...

If you, or a loved one, were to be kidnapped and tortured for no other reason than your tormentor enjoys your pain, I'm betting you might feel a little bit different about that. Just a guess though. Peace.

Totally agree, but I'm not sure you can even knock any sense into someone with that rationale, seriously this is the talk of a complete madman/madwomen, they're trying to say murder of innocent people is not evil, rape is not evil, sacrificing virgins to your gods is not evil, cannabilism is not evil, pedophilia is not evil, the list goes on. The devil has him/her by the balls, they are speaking like one of the many lost occultists out there, in fact to be precise they are just echoing masonic/satanic dogma.

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Most aliens that have mastered space travel are extremely intelligent. Given their intelligence, it would be most likely they have realized separation and segregation only limits their power as a collective and have learned to live in harmony with their people to fully utilize their potential in exploring space to their enjoyment and living a stress free life.

Given their intelligence they would also be able to understand a huge variety of emotions and though processes, thus they would understand what humanity is going through and the little game of drama we have collectively created on planet Earth for our own learning purposes. These brain giants would have realized throughout their evolution that they don't need materialism to enjoy themselves and can simply choose to experience what they want to and create their own preferred reality, emotions such as anger would serve no purpose. Thus they would have no reason to steal our resources.

This is just my speculation though and how I feel.

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Et/ good / can be viewed as Angels or angelic in their intents

Aliens/ bad / can be viewed as Demons or demonic in their intents


Any being from 1 location going to the next with positive intent Et/ good

Any being from 1 location going to the next with evol intent Alien / bad

From what 1 observed..

Be well

I think that if people are worried about meeting extraterrestrials, on the basis of comparing hypothetical ETs with our *own* nature, we should listen very closely to what is being said.

A very telling statement about what we really think of ourselves as a species is being made, there.

Since I can only answer your question based on my own concept of good and evil - Just based on my own personnel experiences with ET's, which are few and far between. I would say, that since the ET's never did any harm too me, my family, or my friends, would make me come to the conclusion that the ET's that have visited our Earth, are not evil, but good in mind, body and soul.

Cheers,

Erno86

Originally posted by vunkster
Most aliens that have mastered space travel are extremely intelligent. Given their intelligence, it would be most likely they have realized separation and segregation only limits their power as a collective and have learned to live in harmony with their people to fully utilize their potential in exploring space to their enjoyment and living a stress free life.

Given their intelligence they would also be able to understand a huge variety of emotions and though processes, thus they would understand what humanity is going through and the little game of drama we have collectively created on planet Earth for our own learning purposes. These brain giants would have realized throughout their evolution that they don't need materialism to enjoy themselves and can simply choose to experience what they want to and create their own preferred reality, emotions such as anger would serve no purpose. Thus they would have no reason to steal our resources.

This is just my speculation though and how I feel.

mastering space travel doesnt make a race intelligent.It just means they are utilizing technology already available.Look at all the morons driving cars and talking on phones.They didnt invent te technology,somebody handed it to them.

Does anyone have information on Hitler knowing about aliens?

I think a lot may have been staged, but some I do not think could be staged that well.

Originally posted by Required01

Originally posted by thedebater
I have been researching a lot about extraterrestrials and the origin of their existence, but I have not come to a conclusion yet on what their true meaning on this planet is. If somebody can give me some intake of this situation. I would love to hear everybody's opinion on the Aliens origin.

It's very hard to concider there 'origin' while we don't even have proof they exist. But the most common type of 'aliens' are the 'greys'. A lot of 'theories' involve about them, one of witch i find 'suiting' seeing there body structures and duration they seem to be on earth.

The theory i would go for about the Grey's is this:
There AI, whether there bodies are biological or mechanical they are AI. This because they don't 'contact' us, and only seem to do there 'tasks'. No interaction is ever documented other then abductions. Whether or not the abuctions are true or is a government fear mongering technique is a different subject. Maybe they where left/send here by the annunaki (ancient astronauts) to 'monitor' the situation on earth.

A lot of people seem to believe in anchient astronauts and Annunaki. Since the Annunaki date back to the 'sumarian' times, they are automaticly classified as Ancient Astronauts. And all the fuzz about 28, october 2011 and ELEnin, Nibiru, etc seem to pass and even a concidered date of the mayan calendar! Not to mention the 'crop circle' thread that is active here!

A lot seems that our DNA was altered and our 'evolution' was boosted. If the Annunaki did this i don't know, but again a lot of speculations and theories envolve this idea. We are 'manufactured' or 'altered' and put here on earth. This mainly because the skeleton 'gap' between homosapiens and us is big. They had big skulls (money like) and where way more 'strongly' build then us. And the next jump is straight to us! No in betweens, no nothing go from homosapiens to our skeleton structures we have now.

What if homosapiens where 'replaced' by us, in order to boost our evolution?

Normally you need to 'look' for things to tie up and connect, but this date and everything around it strangly seems to fall together without even trying to me.

This is 'my' toughts on where 'aliens' come from. Like i said there are so many theories out there to where they come from.

Other 'races' like reptilians and such i have no clue about. Honestly i never did any research into those. Grasping the theory above is crazy enough for now.

I've explained about the greys pretty well I think as to why them being A.I.s is probably way off. You're seeing the bots not the real greys. A real grey is incredibly shy and quite xenophobic. They rarely leave their ships and home areas. And they don't do bad things other than rather carelessly take a human every now and again to see how we are progressing genetically towards that goal of making full enlightenment.

And they were actually the 'gods' in the garden of eden that walked among us. They tweaked us into sentience, as a species, quite unintentionally while they were adjusting the human body to be an acceptable vessel to store their little grey souls that didn't want to reincarnate as greys. No evil master plan at all, sorry.

Plus across the ages, the greys 'modified' various groups of humans by using the DNA of the aliens they were in service to. That's where the blond hair and red hair, and blue and green eyes come from. It is Elven DNA. We served the Elves for a long time.

The greys also adapted humans to serve the star people over on the american continent, they adapted the humans for the far east to look as much like themselves as possible, plus a number of other alien groups who ended up living or visiting regularly here on earth.

The 'Annunaki' are a fake cover species created by the Jue-sah to make themselves look more 'glorious' from what I can see. The actual Jue-sah is darn ugly and also pretty short. They look like bipedal cats with a translucent skin that you can see all their mucles and internal organs thru. Plus they can't work with raw energy hardly at all, compared to most aliens.

And they also want to get people thinking the E-l*th never really existed, that it was really the annunaki (a grander version of themselves) so we would hopefully transfer our love for the elves on to the Annunaki, thinking that they were the real aliens we have spirit memories of, not the elves.

The Dracs were traveling thru Atlantis. A rather large group of them were seeking colony worlds in the next galaxy, thru the energy pathway in Atlantis that attached over there. When Atlantis went down, they lost a lot of their group, but being a colonizing group, they were able to repopulate here on this planet. We humans were terrified of them though. All those big sharp pointy teeth and razor like claws.. We humans always panicked when we saw them and tended to hunt them down and kill them if we could.

So when the Jue-sah offered to take them in and protect them, in return for their service, the Dracs readily agreed. Although one on one, a Drac could easily take any one human, a mob of humans could take them down, and all it often took was a couple arrows, which the humans discovered pretty early on in their dealings with the Dracs. So since then, the Dracs have been on the Jue-sahs payroll, doing mostly strong arm stuff and scaring humans away from sensitive areas, especially in the spirit realm.

Wow! I have to your stories are amazing. i love reading them, and since you said this is basically the truth about these things, you pretty much answered all my questions. This sounds like the stuff, ex air force and area 51 members say are the things poeple wouldn't want to hear also things you couldn't even imagine.

Originally posted by thedebater
Wow! I have to your stories are amazing. i love reading them, and since you said this is basically the truth about these things, you pretty much answered all my questions. This sounds like the stuff, ex air force and area 51 members say are the things poeple wouldn't want to hear also things you couldn't even imagine.

Thanks, thedebater! It's all so clear there in the racial unconscious, and disappointingly mundane to some of these people who want it to be more mysterious and unknowable and full of high entities better than us who'll lovingly guide us all to 'rightness' or whatever. But really, it is all just life, ordinary.

Like I said, the real trick to all of this 'understanding' stuff is to learn to hear what your higher self, via your connection to the racial unconscious affirms is 'true' as per your body's sense of knowingness, be it goose bumps, or a chill up the spine or a silent gonging or a sudden flush of warmth thru your torso, to name a few of the ways I've heard about. Oh yah, some people say they feel a 'click' like the tumblers of a lock falling into place.

And yah, for sure most people don't even want to know that the true powers behind TPTB are in fact aliens.

They don't want to have to question all the lies they've been brainwashed with their whole lives via the propaganda from the NWO Bunch in all forms of our media.

They're afraid to believe that the elder races were in fact real, and not just myths, as the Illuminati would have us believe. We loved most of the elder races.. they were our heros, especially the elves. And it irks the Jue-sah NO end that we absolutely won't love them like we loved the elves. Part of why they've belittled and insulted the memory of the elves by making them little workers in Santa's factory, eh?

And way many people don't want to believe about the many aliens who were here long before us and of the many that are still around even now.

Yah, people get resistant to a lot of this stuff, but none of them seem to be in touch with that sense of knowingness, that click, that awareness when they hear something that is true. More people need to develop that skill, for sure!

Of course all of what I discuss is my interpretation of what I see. I could be off on some things since I may have filters in place that organize information in ways that may put some of it in the wrong place. But I try to keep digging away if something doesn't feel right or I don't feel that gonging. Usually it does sort itself out though. But I am aware that others who access the racial unconscious may interpret things different.

Aliens might be evil by our standards... or they might not be. We cannot assume that aliens concept of evil/good matches ours. I guess all we can really do is speculate until we actually have an alien to attempt to communicate with.

Well i had this sense of "knowingness" It was just this feeling i had that sometime soon in this world everything would be much better between this world and people. idk how off i am, but it was a feeling i had, and i knew for a fact that aliens existed, there was no doubt in my mind. that was a "thing" idk what you call it, that i just knew was the truth. But what i didn't know was that there were evil ones, just like in the movies, and good ones as well, but that they weren't necessarily here to guide us through enlightenment.Please Let me know if i am off on anything.

Originally posted by thedebater

Well i had this sense of "knowingness" It was just this feeling i had that sometime soon in this world everything would be much better between this world and people. idk how off i am, but it was a feeling i had, and i knew for a fact that aliens existed, there was no doubt in my mind. that was a "thing" idk what you call it, that i just knew was the truth. But what i didn't know was that there were evil ones, just like in the movies, and good ones as well, but that they weren't necessarily here to guide us through enlightenment.Please Let me know if i am off on anything.

Are you really sure you can base facts off of a "feeling" or a "knowingness"?

I have had plenty of feelings and knowingness's, but not all came true.

But that might just be me, not trusting my inner senses or whatever

Well you most definitely need to trust your inner self. I have and still do, and lots of the things i knew came true. I knew everything about last winter. I knew about the snow, and i live in south carolina. we do not get snow on christmas, but last year it snowed on christmas. I wasn't sure about the white christmas, but i knew it was gonna snow more than usual. we got three snow storms, we only get one that lasts for 2 days. and thats winter in sc for ya. i knew we were going to have an indian summer for sure. it's just that gut feeling, that voice that just tells you "yes" it is going to happen. unexplainable.