Homosexuality among men and the grim risks it entails

Originally posted by Taupin Desciple
reply to post by dontreally

 

the fact that homosexuality is unnatural is never going to go away

Where do you get the assumption that homosexuality is not natural? Many animals display homosexual behaviors. And according to researchers it can contribute to "reproductive success" among some. In addition:

The fact that homosexuality does, after all, exist in the natural world is bound to be used against people who insist such behavior is unnatural.

Homosexual Activity Among Animals Stirs Debate

Stating that homosexuality is not natural is not an objective statement.

reply to post by SprocketUK


You're absolutely right, who needs nature?

I do agree with you though that having a relationship with one person and one person only, whether you're gay or straight,will lead to a healthier and happier life.

Both sides of this fence need to learn that.

reply to post by Taupin Desciple


Yep, nothing natural about being human for most of us.
I didn't say 1 person only, but ya get the general gist of it.

reply to post by topherman420


Regardless, people still die. Therefore, people need to continue to be born in order for there to still be people.

I hope you understand that.

People in decades past were discreet in their actions for the reasons you stated, that's true, but because of that discretion there were a lot less problems accociated with homosexual acts, like diseases, because they were more careful so as not to get caught.

AIDS is not a disease, its a medical diagnosis. And actually heterosexual women (especially minorities) between the ages of 15 and 24 are the fastest growing demographic for contracting HIV.

Just because you're gay doesn't mean anything. Its how risky your behaviors are, and how many or few precautions you take when under the influence of drugs or alcohol.

There should be a study on the correlation between HIV transmission and substance abuse. There are your true connecting factors.

reply to post by dontreally

Originally posted by dontreally
reply to post by Wyn Hawks

 

aberrant sexuality

...how did i know you were of THAT persuasion?... gosh, i must be psychic...

Originally posted by dontreally
I know this because im an ass doctor. I have a PHD in Pooology

...and i'm the most beautiful and gracious goddess on Earth...

Originally posted by dontreally
I know a few gay people, and all of them have a incontinence problem.

...i know LOTS of incontinent people who have never had anal sex... i also know many who enjoy receiving anal penetration who are not incontinent... iow: you dont have a valid point - imo, of course...

I like the way that:

1) People who are not gay but defend gays unquestioningly are accepted, despite what statistics may or may not show.

2) People who are not gay but question it are homophobic, hate filled - bile-spewers.

3) And gays who demand tolerance are sometimes the first to attack other people and call them ignorant and other such words, are defended by the people in the 1) slot.

This is your politically correct world people - get used to it.

reply to post by Taupin Desciple


Our births in this world are trumping the deaths so its not really an issue anymore. Even with the deaths our procreation is still increasing the population.
So in reality it comes down to one thing among all sexual preferences....safe, non promiscuous sex because of a virus that mutated to introduce itself to our physiology and found a great way of being transmitted and spread quickly. You summed it up great in that previous post about both sides of the fence realizing this.

Originally posted by mr-lizard
I like the way that:

1) People who are not gay but defend gays unquestioningly are accepted, despite what statistics may or may not show.

2) People who are not gay but question it are homophobic, hate filled - bile-spewers.

3) And gays who demand tolerance are sometimes the first to attack other people and call them ignorant and other such words, are defended by the people in the 1) slot.

This is your politically correct world people - get used to it.

I like the way that:

People all over the world are grouped and labelled according to anything now a days from religion to sexual orientation to dietary preferences then draw a "do not cross line".

This is our greatest enemy people....ourselves, get used to it.

reeeemoveeeeeee

reply to post by Reprobation


It started as a "gay" problem but since lots of semi gays(called Bi sexuals for some reason)live in denial and keep trying to have sex with women,the virus became everyones problem...and then there are the ones who,once they are diagnosed,spread it to everyone they can find willing to have raw sex and,therefore,kill as many partners as they possibly can before they get too sick to screw anymore....the depths people will sink to is sickening...bottom line,if you are HIV positive and you give it to someone else,you ar a murderer...a killer no matter how sweet you think you are

Some of these comments are stupidly bigoted.

AIDS is not a gay disease. It's a disease that can effect all human beings. If anything, the stupidity, ignorance, and overall religious bigotry displayed in some of the comments are a 'grim risk' all on their own.

d-d-d-d-double posted. Delete.

Originally posted by gandamack2
reply to post by Reprobation

 

It started as a "gay" problem but since lots of semi gays(called Bi sexuals for some reason)live in denial and keep trying to have sex with women,the virus became everyones problem...and then there are the ones who,once they are diagnosed,spread it to everyone they can find willing to have raw sex and,therefore,kill as many partners as they possibly can before they get too sick to screw anymore....the depths people will sink to is sickening...bottom line,if you are HIV positive and you give it to someone else,you ar a murderer...a killer no matter how sweet you think you are

Thats not entirely true. Trying to blame gays for HIV is more a reflection of personal bias then gay sex. Its actually all sexually oriented intravenous drug users that have sex and transmit the virus over all lifestyle types that make up a huge portion of new cases.

Not to mention the chances of transmission increases in prison conditions. You must factor all these things in instead of just gay or bi bashing. Education is the best defense here not shunning an entire lifestyle choice.

reply to post by topherman420


It's good to see that 2 people with somewhat opposing viewpoints can still find common ground to stand on. I starred you for that.

Originally posted by Phasma
Some of these comments are stupidly bigoted.

AIDS is not a gay disease. It's a disease that can effect all human beings. If anything, the stupidity, ignorance, and overall religious bigotry displayed in some of the comments are a 'grim risk' all on their own.

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I agree but actually AIDS is a medical diagnosis, a syndrome. People with HIV who get sick end up dying from an AIDS related illness. Don't mind me, I work in the education field. We have AIDS education as part of our lessons

Originally posted by Taupin Desciple
reply to post by topherman420

 

It's good to see that 2 people with somewhat opposing viewpoints can still find common ground to stand on. I starred you for that.

Likewise my friend.
Drop the hate and discuss, this is what ATS is for.

Originally posted by Phasma
Some of these comments are stupidly bigoted.

AIDS is not a gay disease. It's a disease that can effect all human beings. If anything, the stupidity, ignorance, and overall religious bigotry displayed in some of the comments are a 'grim risk' all on their own.

edit on 22-8-2011 by Phasma because: (no reason given)

edit on 22-8-2011 by Phasma because: (no reason given)

Hmmm, only difference is, going to church wont catch ya AIDS and if it does, your doing it wrong......