9/11 opposite day: Truthers become OSers and vice versa, See if you can do it (A Challenge)

reply to post by filosophia

Take a look at some of the threads the truthers are doing pretending to be OSers, they are putting a lot of thought and hard work into it. One poster said he puked in his mouth while doing it, so all I can say is I am a bit dissapointed.

I think it's easier for the truthers to revert back to the OS, because I'm pretty sure most of us all started there.

I just want to say I trusted George Bush and his staff like I trust my own family, there's just no way they would create a false flag operation (like countless Presidents before him) in order to gain public support for a war no-one wanted against a nasty evil, bogeyman who he used to be friends with.

Also, these people who say that WTC was designed to withstand multiple plane hits are just lying for fun, just like I believe that all the security cams around the Pentagon malfunctioned at the exact time that the plane hit, it sounds plausible to me. Love your government

These people who think 9/11 was an inside job are just crazy

reply to post by Yankee451


I was wondering how a kerosene/office material fire could reach 3000 degrees but then I remembered how I need to buy like ten grills each summer because they keep melting on me.

reply to post by galdur

I was wondering how a kerosene/office material fire could reach 3000 degrees but then I remembered how I need to buy like ten grills each summer because they keep melting on me.

HAHA...

I feel your pain brother, my 1/4 inch thick steel woodstove melted down after only one season. Steel is lame, I'm going with aluminum next winter.

This is easy because I used to be a Truster/OS person here WAS my personal thought process.

10 Points

1) The government would never murder 3000 of their own citizens in the middle of the day for all to see.
2) Terrorists hate us because we are free and a decadent society.
3) It's impossible too many people would need to be involved in the planning and cover up, somebody would talk.
4) The US government was not prepared for this type of terrorism.
5) Building 7 was damaged by fires and failed, the NIST report says so, why would they lie?
6) The plane that crashed in a field, they must have fought for control of the plane and crashed it. The passengers are heros.
7) Wow, the guy that flew the plane into he pentagon was an amazing pilot.
8) 9/11 commission report was a good investigation.
9) WTC 1 & 2 must have been poorly constructed buildings.
10) George Bush responded the only way he could, aggressively towards those that did this.

Listening to an 8/19 recording of Alex Jones interviewing legendary NYC detective Frank Serpico, who thinks that the govt´s 9/11 story stinks. Oh well, just another tin foil hat conspiracy theorist.

It is quite obvious that it was the collision that brought down the towers. The extreme lateral stresses on the outer columns sections puny bolt system in the initial collision, already corroded and over stressed by 3 decades of lateral stresses, and many with broken washers, was exacerbated by the softening of the metal in those columns, until the sections finally just fell apart from one another.
Why do you think they have spent millions on anti corrosion systems for the bolts alone in the new building/s?
Thought I should add appropriate links;

The old bolts,
www.cbsnews.com...

The new bolts,

foresthillbridgerenewal.com... (ignore the exposure bit)

Well, obviously you can´t believe that reinforced buildings can fall through themselves practically without resistance in a gravity driven event and also believe that parachutes work - that´s very elementary. You can´t have it both ways.

All of you 'inside job' people are crazy conspiracy nuts.

It's preposterous to think that your government would ever do anything to harm it's own citizens. There's no logic for it, whatsoever - there were no obvious gains to be made by anyone and to suggest as much is extremely unpatriotic, and somewhat treasonous.

I suppose you also think that the Fed is an evil entity, are probably a Ron Paul supporter, don't believe in the lord almighty, and have one of them fancy degrees. You probably believe in aliens and UFOs*. And, think that Neil deGrasse Tyson, Isaac Newton, Michio Kaku, Stephen Colbert are cooler than the Gosh Darn Dallas mother effin' Cowboys, Charlie Sheen, Lindsey Lohan, and Jersey Shore.

9/11 truthers - pfffft - get a job, hippie!


S&F for a neat idea.


*and/or, undivulged advanced technology sanctioned by govmt agencies and the military industrial complex

reply to post by SquirrelNutz


As many have said, most truthers have come to that position, only a very few started there.

But lemme give it a swing:

"The world is a complicated place filled with lots of unexplained things. Surely it is unthinkable that someone would try to manipulate the media and world opinion, and Bush is the president, surely he wouldn't lie about important things.

Eventually we will have a physical explanation for what happened, investigations will inevitably show that collapse was inevitable so there is no need to worry if the details are off. We can and should simply assume that there is nothing untoward happened. There is no incongruity or physical mystery that would make me change this position because I know that it must have been natural.

Anybody can come up with a theory, so anyone with a theory is wrong if it doesn't support the official line of reasoning because the official is is correct. So if your theory contradicts what is obviously true you must be crazy.

So you found what you think is thermite? Any science is always a work in progress, it couldn't have been thermite because if it was the official story would be false. So since any theory can be criticized I can just criticize your discovery.

Everybody knows that criticism is the same a refutation. Here is a site where someone criticizes Stephen Jones, you see he has been debunked now because someone once thought he was wrong about something. Oh, and he believes in all kind of weird things and is from a non-mainstream religion, so he was a crazy dingbat to start with lol. "

...how am I doing so far?

Everything I hear on the MSM I immediately discount and believe the exact opposite because I think out of the box that the powers to be want to keep me in. There is obviously a more complex and highly orchestrated symphony of events unknown to us ordinary citizens and that is how I have suddenly become an expert on the destructive powers of thermite incendiaries even though I never heard of thermite before 2006. We all know that the plans were directed to impact the exact area of the building laced with magnesium fuses and complex pyrotechnic initiators to slowly build heat up to the white-hot temperature necessary to initiate a thermite reaction from a simple kerosene and hydrocarbon office fires which is an ingenious way to hide the extreme bright burn of the black ops/black smoke cloaked scheme. It's so simple a plan even our government can pull it off flawlessly and only the shepple can believe otherwise.

First of all:

Why would the government let this happen in a financial/business building?
The World Trade Center complex was a weird target. Why not some other high building?
Would this be in the greatest interest - would it adjust any engagement in Afghanistan or Iraq?

The PNAC documents containing a picture of the Twin Towers, entitled "Rebuilding America's Defenses", is just a sole coincidence. Same goes for all the bull# about two planes not being able to knock down the steel frames. The pressure itself from above would explain the "explosions" which are seen.

Main reason for alternative conspiracy theories (inside job, etc.) - already alot of disrespect for American Government, which is deserved - also a complete lack of understanding when something traumatic is happening.

I knew it was a demo as soon as I saw that tower come down, cos it was just like all the other controlled demos I've seen on TV - only an idiot bonkers shill would think otherwise.

Oh God, please don't start. Anybody who thinks the government staged 911 is a dangerous traitor to America with far too much time on their hands to think about things. How dare you insult the families of the victims with your twisted neurotic delusions. You're weird! You're going through a phase! It's a mental illness. It'll pass.

@OP: Am I doing right?

I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully -W.Bush









Because of his eloquent speech’s and thought provoking leadership.
One must surly come to the conclusion that he could never let such a thing happen.


Spike Spiegle

reply to post by filosophia


I USED to be an OSer. I actually filled out forms to enlist in the Canadian Forces. I WANTED to be sent to Afghanistan.

But I couldn't because I was a British Citizen at the time. And I couldn't join the British Army because I failed to meet the residency requirements after living in Canada for the 8 years prior to 9/11.

Then I started reading, and researching, and became a "truther".

However, I kept on reading and researching and I've come to realize that 9/11 -- as big as it was -- is only a small piece of the giant puzzle (a "Grand Chessboard" if you will, wink wink).

9/11 is just that: A Catalyzing Event to get the ball rolling for the main part of the plan.

And now, I've STOPPED reading and researching. The only thing to do now is fend for ourselves.

Sorry to rain on your thread, but we're in bigger *SNIP* than what 9/11 was.

reply to post by sumgai

However, I kept on reading and researching and I've come to realize that 9/11 -- as big as it was -- is only a small piece of the giant puzzle (a "Grand Chessboard" if you will, wink wink).

9/11 is just that: A Catalyzing Event to get the ball rolling for the main part of the plan.

I've been saying this for years! *'d

I was busy at work and became suspect of the OS as soon as I heard that not one, but both of the towers had entirely collapsed. And collapsed into their footprint.

No steel constructed building before or after 911 has collapsed solely due to fire...



But anyway...here goes.

Damn Fool Conspiracy Theorists...they need to lay off that wacky weed !

President Bush warned us about you Conspiracy Theorists....and we'll only tell you once.
You are either with US OR you are with them...the Terrorists who carried out these horrific attacks on our fellow Amuricans.

You and I both know how those Muslim people Hate our way of life....they're Jealous because they don't have Shopping Malls, 2.28 Cars per household, Flat Screen TV's to watch recaps of the 911 Planes impacting the WTC for the Millionth Time.....or a convenient Mc Donalds drive through every 1.4 Miles to stuff our faces with delicious fried burgers and fries in our cars !

They hate us. They hate our way of life. Our backing Israel and giving the Israelis Billions in US weapons has little if any significance having to do with these attacks.

President Bush did the right thing in going over there to their doorstep in Afghanistan to get that evil OBL.

Who was directing the terrorist attacks from his fortified Cave via his Cell Phone and showing all of those Terrorists who was Boss....cause as they say....."An Eye for an Eye"......and with Bush being a Texan , albeit via Connecticut..

"Don't Mess With Texas" !

reply to post by filosophia


"there are things we know and there are things we don't know.
there are also things we know we don't know as there are things
we don't know that we don't know. you know? aside from those things,
there are some things we don't know we know we don't know as there
are yet some other things we know we don't know we know. you know?"

Initially I believed this was a bad Idea, but after seeing scores of comments from people otherwise absent from these forums, I tip my hat. Anything that increases awareness about the 9/11 fraud has to be a good thing. Without exception, everyone who's taken the side of backing the OS has come across as either a 'shill' or complete moron. If that's too harsh, that's too bad because I consider this crime to be the single most important event of my life, and I refuse to believe any sane individual, after looking at the evidence provided here could make me believe they honestly believe the OS. So go ahead, act indignant, and tell me how I have no respect for those who lost 'loved ones' in this 'terrorist attack' by 'muslim extremists'. Yeah, right.