ELENIN in HEBREW means HAMMER OF GOD! Whoah!

Originally posted by Dr Expired
reply to post by randyvs

 

So who would anyone "refer to"...be honest, or is it just a one way street?
Like its oK to say that ?

Did you just get all ANALytical with me ? Honestly, I meant "anyone" . As in " a single solitary soul ". K? What ever the more common place definition of, "Anyone " might be. Um it was a joke ? Hello!

I remember that I had this paperback that was written in 1977. That was actually about the very idea of a comet hitting earth. I scanned the front and back.

Lucifer's Hammer
Larry Niven, Jerry Pournelle

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What a cool post? Intriguing. One could almost wonder about this, seeing Satan is, the God of this world.
Even in the Bible.

There is also Arthur C. Clarke's "The Hammer of God"

Originally posted by ViP3r
Whatever Elenin's name means isn't going to matter after it hits earth ! Nasa isn't going to tell anyone the truth ,except themselves. This comet is carrying over more than a million miles of debris and trash in it's tail that it has picked up and formed for a long long time and when it does pelt us around the middle of Oct , this will last 25-30 mins and send a shockwave 500-1000ft high in the air that will make our brains go blank !! That debris/trash in the tail will hit us, most definitely .We don't have underground bunkers to hide in that can withstand a catastrophe, why do they have them ?I just hope this hits us while were sleeping , cause i sure in he@l don't want to experience what is about to happen in several weeks .

It will make our brains go blank?
You sure it hasn't already hit?

Seriously, you have any proof of this?
And please, not some nutter on youtube.

This is the plot summary according to wikipedia.

The story details a cometary impact on Earth, an end to civilization, and the battle for the future. It encompasses the discovery of the comet, the LA social scene, and a cast of diverse characters whom fate seems to smile upon and allow to survive the massive cataclysm and the resulting tsunamis, plagues, famines and battles amongst scavengers and cannibals.

When wealthy soap company heir and amateur astronomer Tim Hamner co-discovers a new comet, dubbed Hamner-Brown, documentary producer Harvey Randall persuades Hamner to have his family's company sponsor a television documentary series on the subject. Political lobbying by California Senator Arthur Jellison eventually gets a joint Apollo-Soyuz (docking with the second flightworthy Skylab) mission into space to study the comet, dubbed "The Hammer" by popular media, which is expected to pass close to the Earth. Despite assurances by the scientific community that a collision with Earth is extremely unlikely, the public, fueled with religious fervor by the evangelist Henry Armitage, begins to hoard food and supplies in anticipation.

Eventually, to the shock of scientists at JPL in Pasadena who could not track the trajectory accurately enough due to the comet's constant outgassing, the Hammer does fall, breaking up into several smaller comets that impact around the world with devastating results, striking parts of Europe, Africa, the Gulf of Mexico, and both the Pacific and Atlantic. The strikes trigger several volcanoes and earthquakes around the world, including the San Andreas fault, heavily damaging the Southern California region and the rest of California, causing millions of casualties. Several of the fragments land in the ocean, causing further damage by the resulting tsunamis (which destroy several major coastal cities around the world, including Los Angeles, killing millions) and long-term climate problems due to the massive quantities of vaporized seawater. Hundreds of millions are dead, and the rest of the world is devastated. As the survivors contend with weeks of non-stop rain, flooding destroys practically every dam and levee, leaving the search for food a top survival priority. Civilization crumbles as people use the few remaining weapons to protect themselves from each other.

Surviving "Hammerfall" is shown to be primarily a matter of random chance, with preparation being a distant second factor. Hamner goes from being a dilettante astronomer to a determined survivor, with his new wife Eileen. Randall shows true leadership abilities under fire, while Jellison and other land owners, farmers and ranchers become lords over their fiefdoms and the serfs they employ to provide labor, skills and security. Jellison forms the centerpost of these fiefs, dubbed "the Stronghold", where he presides over a small population of survivors who wish to retain civilization. The tone of life after "Hammerfall" is one where those who do not have valuable professions for a world without power or civilization are relegated to being manual laborers, regardless of their socioeconomic status or profession before the Fall. While doctors and farmers are still valuable, lawyers are unnecessary—but if civilization is to be rebuilt, scientific knowledge is the most valuable skill of all. Soldiers and police are diminished and provide security alongside gang members and bikers, both within the Stronghold and within the New Brotherhood Army, the legions of Reverend Henry Armitage, who indoctrinates his followers into cannibalism to shame them into loyalty. Jellison's stronghold is located slightly east or northeast of Springville, California, where the North Fork and the Middle Fork of the Tule River meet. West of this stronghold, the city of Porterville has been destroyed by the collapse of the dam at Lake Success. A portion of the comet breaking off and splashing down in the Gulf of California has turned the former San Joaquin Valley into a swampy lake. Other small enclaves of civilization exist in this area, until a band of cannibalistic zealots led by Reverend Armitage and an army of heavily armed soldiers begin a rampage through the area, culminating in a series of battles with the inhabitants of Jellison's stronghold.

Notice the main protagonist Career description and his wife's name. "Hamner goes from being a dilettante astronomer to a determined survivor, with his new wife Eileen."

Coincidence? You decide!
Lucifer's Hammer WiKi

Prologue

Before the sun burned, before the planets formed, there were chaos and the comets.

Chaos was a local thickening in the interstellar medium. Its mass was great enough to attract itself, to hold itself, and it thickened further. Eddies formed. Particles of dust and frozen gas drifted together, and touched, and clung. Flakes formed, and then loose snowballs of frozen gases. Over the ages a whirlpool pattern developed, a fifth of a light-year across. The center contracted further. Local eddies, whirling frantically near the center of the storm, collapsed to form planets.

It formed as a cloud of snow, far from the whirlpool's axis. Ices joined the swarm, but slowly, slowly, a few molecules at a time. Methane, ammonia, carbon dioxide; and sometimes denser objects struck it and embedded themselves, so that it held rocks, and iron. Now it was a single stable mass. Other ices formed, chemicals that could only be stable in the interstellar cold.

It was four miles across when the disaster came.

The end was sudden. In no more than fifty years, the wink of an eye in its lifetime, the whirlpool's center collapsed. A new sun burned fearfully bright.

Myriads of comets flashed to vapor in that hellish flame Planets lost their atmospheres. A great wind of light pressure stripped all the loose gas and dust from the inner system and hurled it at the stars.

It hardly noticed. It was two hundred times as far from the sun as the newly formed planet Neptune. The new sun was no more than an uncommonly bright star, gradually dimming now.

Down in the maelstrom there was frantic activity. Gases boiled out of the rocks of the inner system. Complex chemicals developed in the seas of the third planet. Endless hurricanes boiled across and within the gas-giant worlds. The inner worlds would never know calm.

The only real calm was at the edge of interstellar space, in the halo, where millions of thinly spread comets, each as far from its nearest brother as Earth is from Mars, cruise forever through the cold black vacuum. Here its endless quiet sleep could last for billions of years . . . but not forever. Nothing lasts forever.

Originally posted by JesusLives
reply to post by CasiusIgnoranze

 

Sorry if someone said this already, but there is no Leonid Elenin. His last name is Yelenin not Elenin.

No, IS Elenin, but not Yelenin. According to the info of the cited site (which is in Russian and English) Author: Leonid Elenin August 20st, 2011 confirm the size of comet -

"My estimate the size of the comet Elenin coma was confirmed by visual observations of an experienced Australian amateur astronomer Michael Mattiazzo. August 19, he estimated the angular size of the coma as 4 arc minutes, which equal to 213,500 km in the linear size."
spaceobs.org... 2011/08/20/the-diameter-of-the-comet-elenins-coma-confirmed-by-visual-observations-from-the-earth/

Boys, do you know what force must have this Elen (deer) to move this 213,500 km in the linear size mass?

reply to post by Chadwickus


Yes you need to realize any word “transliterated” from Russian is a best guess sort of thing. The problem comes from the fact there are letters in the Russian alphabet that have no counterpart in English. And this name Elenin is a prime example.

In Russian “Еленин” uses several such letters “Ее” is the upper case and lower case version of such a letter. In some cases it is transliterated to the English letter “E” for obvious reasons. However when spoken by a Russian it does indeed sound more like a “Ye” sound. The character “и” is another tricky one. It is often transliterated as “I” but other times it may get “E” or”EE”. The “л” is exactly the same as English “L” just as “н” is the exact same sound as English “N”.


So to break it down:
Е - Ye
Л - L
е - Ye
н - N
и - EE
н - N

Or “Yelyeneen” however since this is a very foreign sound for an American to make they just Americanize it to “Elenin”. There is nothing mystical or magical about it. It happens every day with words you do not even realize are from other countries. Just a way that languages, like Russian, that use different characters are transliterated. To some extent this even happens in languages that use almost identical characters. Look at French or Spanish, hell even British. All use the same basic alphabet we do, but the sounds for some of the letters are a bit off.

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Hey I appreciate the hell out your posting that. I almost didn't catch it cause you didn;t reply to me, or any one else for that matter. But that is a cool read that you posted. I would love to find the book somewhere so I'm going to look, find and order that puppy. Thanks again mon.

Gave me chills

reply to post by Dr Expired


I have actually not really studied anything too deeply. IMO, if it is going to happen, it will. Nothing we can do about it.

Just don't trust the government

Originally posted by SuperiorEd

Originally posted by CLPrime
reply to post by SuperiorEd

 

That's a misuse of the Revelation prophecy. And it was not the premise of the OP.

Perhaps, but when we are talking about a comet falling from the sky as God's hammer and Revelation 8 uses a word that sounds nearly the same as Elenin (La' anah) meaning wormwood, I see a connection. Maybe it's just me, but they sound similar. Linguistics are interconnected across many languages. We have Welch and Hebrew connecting to Russian. This is no surprise really. Just interesting.

In Jewish gematria, Elenin is 119. 911 in reverse. Even more interesting.

Ed, I had to find your post here, so I could ad this to it. Posted by member Magott and he didn't say not to quote him on this so I thought you might be interested.


Elenins orbital period 11,900 years.

From the nasa link on page 1:

.... One of the worst examples is a video that someone posted on the NASAbuzzroom website that claims that the magnetic field of the comet will cause a large shift in the rotation axis of the Earth and produce mega-earthquakes on March 15, 2011. It is hard to imagine anyone would take this seriously.....

David Morrison
Astrobiology Senior Scientist
March 1, 2011

OK I am finally deciding to join the fun discussions of ELENIN. First and foremost NASAsaid it is not a DIRECT threat to planet earth, ie it won't crash into us, NOT that it is not a threat. Next LEONID ELENIN is likely an acronym meaning: Level Eight Operational National Intelligence Directive; Extinction Level Event Near, Impact November.

What we know about it for sure:

It is a cluster "comet", with a lot of crap being dragged with it.
It has a angular gravitational momentum out of phase with it's apparent physical mass that is causing seizmicity and fluid dynamic changes on planets including the earth.
It has a magnetic field strong enough to accelerate the solar wind to a bilateral x-ray beam at the poles.
One of the comet's concurrent asteroid bodies has a small chance of hitting either the Earth or the Moon.
There is a lot of media black out by NASA and other organizations when they would normally be encouraging people to get a telescope and view it.
Leonid Elenin is not a real person when checked
The events are lining up with "Deep impact's" script.

What I think,

Project bluebeam may be a cover explanation, but if it is what I think it is, we are, to put it bluntly, SCREWED. Bunkers will be of moderate protection at best, and the November "impact" will just be the icing on the cake if it even happens. All of these characteristics are consistent with the object being a stellar core or other high mass object with the most severe effects notable when it reaches perhelion at opposition of the Earth. Imagine the Sun suddenly heating up to 120-1000 times it's normal intensity.

This is the likely scenario if it is what I think it is...

The magnetic cross coupling will cause the sun to cool initially and burn with a dim red glow for up to three days, while a lot of charged particles emitted as a electric bluish flashes of light will dive bomb the magnetosphere enough to make auroras bright enough to easily read by. The chaotic EM fields from the auroras will be strong enough to destroy most electronics beyond repair, and interfere with nerve conduction. It may cause a feeling of disorientation quite similar to being on a strong hallucinogenic drug like '___'. After it leaves the critical influence distance to the sun, the elenin object will violently heat up from magnetic induction and the sun will make a violent pulse/shockwave of plasma that will pretty much fry the side of the earth facing it. After it's over the sky all over the world will glow an eerie red color due to singlet delta state monoatomic oxygen decaying to ground state. This will last at least two weeks. The sun will look a strange pinkish color with a blue halo for at least two weeks after this because the singlet oxygen and nitrogen oxides are a very good absorber of yellow/green light wavelengths. It may make an interesting spectacle when there is an eclipse later in September. Rain may be acidic enough to kill many plants and make water unsafe to drink. What happens after this I really think is academic in nature.

Timetable: i don't want to think about it....September 9-14 2011. I really was hoping for it to be aliens, annunaki or something similarly cool, but the probable reality is what it is. Mentally prepare to die, but make preparations to survive, pray to any God you believe in.

reply to post by eywadevotee

It is a cluster "comet", with a lot of crap being dragged with it.

No, it's not.

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www.aerith.net...

It has a angular gravitational momentum out of phase with it's apparent physical mass that is causing seizmicity and fluid dynamic changes on planets including the earth.

That doesn't even mean anything.

It has a magnetic field strong enough to accelerate the solar wind to a bilateral x-ray beam at the poles.
One of the comet's concurrent asteroid bodies has a small chance of hitting either the Earth or the Moon.

Most of that is complete gibberish.

There is a lot of media black out by NASA and other organizations when they would normally be encouraging people to get a telescope and view it.

A lack of media coverage does not equal a "media blackout." I am personally encouraging you to purchase a telescope, learn how to use it, and observe the comet for yourself. The Moon is much more interesting, however, as you would soon find.

Leonid Elenin is not a real person when checked

I'll mention that when I Skype him.

The events are lining up with "Deep impact's" script.

Repeat after me: "It's only a movie... it's only a movie...."

reply to post by DJW001


"it has a magnetic field strong enough to accelerate the solar wind to a bilateral x-ray beam at the poles."

"One of the comet's concurrent asteroid bodies has a small chance of hitting either the Earth or the Moon."

"It has a angular gravitational momentum out of phase with it's apparent physical mass that is causing seizmicity and fluid dynamic changes on planets including the earth."

there talking about G19+03,,an unexploded piece of

,, G19, a Supernova.

,, which actually exploded, a long time ago in OUR, Galaxie,,


This remnant of the Supernova, G19,,

G19+03,,, notice the NAME CHANGE,, just so people dont get them mixed up,,


G19+03
"There is a lot of media black out by NASA and other organizations when they would normally be encouraging people to get a telescope and view it."



"Leonid Elenin is not a real person when checked"
Leonid Elenin "found" a Comet "cx2010",, which NASA had already been tracking for years,,,
but NASA said nothing,, and alowed "oh look a NEW comet" why thanks ,,Leonid Elenin,, guess we at NASA will just have too name this NEW Comet after you then


The events are lining up with "Deep impact's" script.

are they??
want to write a good fiction?
make sure its true,,then just call it fiction..

AND if you want to do some REAL research,, this planet already has passed through tail of a comet,,
AND ITS RECORDED HISTORY,,from real scientists
its there ,as a matter of fact its in one of ATS threads, an actual eyewitness account of an actuall comet ,and the earth going through the tail of the comet,
But i guess being an actuall HISTORICAL ACCOUNT does not pull much weight anymore,,
might not be interested in the "ASTONOMER",, who made the observations,,
cause he was just an amatuer,, u know,, wealthy ,aristocratic,,bum,,with nothing better too do!

Sorry Sir Astonomer.,,was mad.

Elenins orbital period 11,900 years.

And we come around 10500BCE...

What about the name E-Lenin (like e-mail)? Lenin was a hammer of wrath (of jhvh - Saturn - the master of Time - Greek Cronus) and was sexually pervert as syphilis is the indicator for it. Let's see if E-Lenin will be "the hammer of wrath" for the "overdue" Saturnial souls on the Earth.

Originally posted by DJW001

Leonid Elenin is not a real person when checked

I'll mention that when I Skype him.

When you Skype him, ask him if it's his birth name, or the name he was 'assigned' in 2010.

The events are lining up with "Deep impact's" script.

Repeat after me: "It's only a movie... it's only a movie...."

It is only a movie. However, is it possible TPTB are mimicing the events in the movie?

Personally, I've never thought Elenin was an impact threat. It's trajectory keeps it too far from us. There would have to be a huge margin of error for it to hit us.

st.

reply to post by StripedBandit


And "God" is a French slang word for a Di**o. That really sets it off star from me LOL

Originally posted by BobAthome
Leonid Elenin "found" a Comet "cx2010",, which NASA had already been tracking for years,,,
but NASA said nothing,, and alowed "oh look a NEW comet" why thanks ,,Leonid Elenin,, guess we at NASA will just have too name this NEW Comet after you then

This is nothing new. Goldstone and the Deep Space Radar network have been scanning the skies for decades. They track ALOT of objects which are just assigned numbers. They usually get their 'names' when they have been publicly discovered.

Take YU55, publicly discovered in 2005, but most likely tracked by Goldstone for decades due to its relative close trajectory with Earth. Back in 9th Novermber 2000, YU55 came within approx. 0.04AU with Earth, easily close enough to be picked up by Goldstone.

Just saying.

st.