2012 Election: The ATS Democratic Party (speculative) Straw Poll

Originally posted by Misoir
reply to post by David9176

 

Bernie Sanders is an Independent Senator for Vermont. He is not a Democrat, hence the reason why he is not listed on a Democratic Party straw poll.

He caucuses with the Democrats. Therefore he should have been included in the poll.

Originally posted by LDragonFire
Yes I was serious I didn't vote in the republican poll because Im not republican, I didn't vote out of respect, I also did not post a bunch of jokes and posts in that thread.

You're asking people not to vote in an open poll, claiming they're being "disrespectful" if they do. While that was your personal choice, asking others to do so just isn't realistic or justified. I certainly didn't ask people not to partake in the previous one because they weren't republicans. Stomping your feet and making accusations isn't going to change that.

Im not a liberal, Im not racist, I like to think Im a good person, but Im tired of members here making me feel like Im not a good person because I don't agree with them.

You're probably a wonderful person, and shouldn't take the opinions of others so personal. Once you understand that you are no better, or worse, than anyone else, you'll realise that you don't really have the right to tell people what to do.

If I decide to partake in this open poll, it is entirely my own choice...period. If you disagree because it doesn't fit in with your agenda, that's something you'll have to deal with on your own. Attempting to sway the outcome by offering a guilt trip is something I consider unfair and dishonest. I can only speak for myself.

Either my eyes are deceiving me...or the list order on the poll list is changing.

have looked at it a few times (to see if sanders has been added but certainly looks like he won't be) and it's been in a different order every time.

Why is this happening?

I went with Al Sharpton and his apparent intelligence.

SHARPTON: Tonight is the measure of whether the country begins, in the state of Wisconsin, a national drive to push back or whether we have more to go to build a movement of resistance. But resist we much... We must and we will much... about ... that ... be committed.

Environmental "Projection" Agency.

Maybe Al can meet up with Obama in the 57th state.

Is there any way to not get these messages in my inbox?

I care nothing for these subjects, but I keep getting my inbox full of spam to look at a thread which doesn't apply to me.

Originally posted by David9176
Either my eyes are deceiving me...or the list order on the poll list is changing.

have looked at it a few times (to see if sanders has been added but certainly looks like he won't be) and it's been in a different order every time.

Why is this happening?

edit on 19-8-2011 by David9176 because: (no reason given)

You know exactly why.

Elephant in the room. Quite literally in this case.

Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
Now that we've completed a very interesting online "straw poll" of candidates for the Republican party nomination for President of the United States, it's time to see which way the wind blows in relation to the Democrats. While a primary race for the Democratic party nomination is not yet being seriously discussed, there appears to be an increasing number of Democrats who are mentioning the possibility. So we've selected twelve probable politicians who might be early contenders in the minds of registered Democrat voters. This poll will run in the same manner as the previous poll, pick your candidate, then indicate why. However, since this is much more speculative than the Republicans, we've also provided you to pick "other," and then lets know via a function for a write-in candidate.

So, Democrats, who should run against Ron Paul (!) in the national election in 2012.

ATS Democratic Party Straw Poll

why would we even be considering that ron paul will be the nomination for the GOP? They will never nominate him.

anyway, I daresay the president will run again and there will be no other choices, so I suppose I pick him.

I mean, he doesn't fight the republican corporate-nazi movement nearly as hard as he should but anything is better than letting a republican win while there's a republican house. We'd be in ghettos watching gays and blacks burn in ovens within a week.

You know damn well the Dems are trying to replace Obama with Hillary, but of course, they don't want to come across as being racists.
Live by the racist card, die by the racist card.

Originally posted by LDragonFire
Wow I remember reading on the republican straw poll dems not voting because they were not republicans, but the republicans are not returning the favor on this poll

I do not affiliate my self with any party. I vote for who ever I think is best for the job. Party makes no difference to me. I voted in both polls.

reply to post by Alxandro

You know damn well the Dems are trying to replace Obama with Hillary, but of course, they don't want to come across as being racists. Live by the racist card, die by the racist card.

No one wants hilary...she's a corporate democrat....that's why people voted for Obama instead of Hilary in the first place....ended up being pretty much the same when it was all said and done though. As far as i'm concerned they should both be joining the GOP.

BTW...the racist statement was lame.

I voted for Howard Dean just because I hope he'll do one of these again:




I love You Tube; as soon as I typed in his name, this popped right up.

I voted other for Face Ripper Monkey.

VOTE!!!

Yes, VOTE!!!

The only way we are ever going to see change is to VOTE!!!

Seriously???

WoW...

Voted Feingold

He seems the most fair, based on his voting record.

Feingold was the only Senator to vote against the Patriot Act in 2001 & led a successful filibuster against it's reinstatement that led to many compromises in it in 2006. BTW, he STILL voted against it that time.

He has returned over $70,000 in raises he has recieved, making good on his promise when elected to not accept any raises.

Russ has made many efforts in regards to campaign finance reform. Including efforts to greatly limit lobbyists.

Was one of the 23 senators to vote against authorizing President Bush to use force against Iraq & was the 1st Senator to call for the withdrawal of troops from Iraq and ask for a timetable for that to happen.

In 2006 introduced a resolution to call for the censure of President Bush due to illegal wire taps.

Has endorsed a Canada style "single payer" health care system.

Has a mixed but fair (imo) record of supporting the 2nd Amendment

Supports same sex marriage.

Wants to prohibit State Governors from making temporary Senate appointments instead of letting the voters decide in special elections.

Yeah, I like this guy.

reply to post by musicjunkie


Feingold has done some good things, i need to read more about him.

But as of right now, I'm with Sanders. (who is mysteriously missing on the list)

Feingold has some similarities with sanders...who also voted against the patriot act (he was in the house back then...not the senate)

Is for single payer and public option.

Actually, his state of Vermont is the first state that is implementing a single payer like system.

He's against the war in Iraq/Afghanistan.

he's against free trade.

he supports our war veterans and t heir families.

defends social security and medicaid.

Defends the poor and middle class.

He's tops in my book.
sanders.senate.gov...

As much as I love people like Bernie Sanders and Kucinich, I don't think anybody that far left could gain significant ground in this country. If you think that the establishment is giving Ron Paul a hard time, at least he believes in relatively corporate-friendly, laissez faire capitalism. Imagine what TPTB and the media would do to a borderline socialist.

Speaking as a long time supporter of Dennis K.If he wins this poll I can't wait for word to spread to the hardcore Obama and Hillary supporters they will be livid!!!

reply to post by David9176


You are correct. Senator Sanders does have many stances that I agree with.

I can certainly understand why you would vote for him in this poll.

Originally posted by calstorm

I do not affiliate my self with any party. I vote for who ever I think is best for the job. Party makes no difference to me. I voted in both polls.

That's how it should be.
(I did too).

Seeing that Bernie Sanders, one of the few men that I feel are legitimate in congress, is missing from this poll(since he's indy i understand), I see no reason in choosing anyone from the Democratic Party since they are bought and paid for.

What no Anthony Wiener?
That list of names seriously made me vomit. Although I'm not a registered repubic, nor a Obama supporter, the democratic party candidates are really uninspiring to say the least. The saddest part is I can't think of any name to add that would be better.

What a difference between the repubes and dems! I never took ATS as a conservative website, but the straw poll political leanings sure show a lack of excitement over dems