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Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by DZAG Wright
It's okay to admit it when you don't have a reply that pertains to my post. Smarmy talk is what I used to get when I lectured my son when he was 14.
Hey. . . .
Originally posted by kellynap43
reply to post by beezzer
You can tell what ones are Obama worshipers. And worship him everynight.
Cause, this was never an issue prior to the "Joe the Plumber" conversation when Obama let slip his intent to redistribute the wealth. After that, the dogs came a running, and all of them were licking their chops for a free hand out.
It proved, incontrovertibly, the disastrous effects of machinery and division of labor; the concentration of capital and land in a few hands; overproduction and crises; it pointed out the inevitable ruin of the petty bourgeois and peasant, the misery of the proletariat, the anarchy in production, the crying inequalities in the distribution of wealth, the industrial war of extermination between nations, the dissolution of old moral bonds, of the old family relations, of the old nationalities.
Originally posted by beezzer
Originally posted by kellynap43
reply to post by beezzer
You can tell what ones are Obama worshipers. And worship him everynight.
Cause, this was never an issue prior to the "Joe the Plumber" conversation when Obama let slip his intent to redistribute the wealth. After that, the dogs came a running, and all of them were licking their chops for a free hand out.
Redistribute the wealth.
Hmmm, wonder where I've heard that before. . . .
It proved, incontrovertibly, the disastrous effects of machinery and division of labor; the concentration of capital and land in a few hands; overproduction and crises; it pointed out the inevitable ruin of the petty bourgeois and peasant, the misery of the proletariat, the anarchy in production, the crying inequalities in the distribution of wealth, the industrial war of extermination between nations, the dissolution of old moral bonds, of the old family relations, of the old nationalities.
Communist Manifesto
Originally posted by kellynap43
reply to post by DZAG Wright
Its called research. Something that people do to learn. Mostly when it comes to facts and data. I have a feeling your not well versed in this topic, are you?edit on 19-8-2011 by kellynap43 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by beezzer
I'd like to know why so many people want to punish success. Why so many people want to punish hard work and effort.
Originally posted by beezzer
T'is a sad and sorry state of affairs when we can sit and debate the legitimacy of stealing from people who have more.
Originally posted by beezzer
You blame those that benefit from tax laws and not the people who write them.
Originally posted by beezzer
If I were in a position where I could save a few(million) bucks in tax "loopholes" I'd be a fool not to.
It is MY money. It is not yours. It isnot the governments. I earned it. I worked for it.
Originally posted by defcon5
That's the point, IT'S NOT THEIR MONEY, IT'S THE TAX PAYERS MONEY, its money that we allow them to deduct with certain economic expectations in return.
Originally posted by defcon5
The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.
reply to post by beezzer
Actually no its not, it belongs the the US tax payers, unless your a believer in those bogus tax dodger laws. If your taxes were yours it would be optional to pay, and believe me, regardless of what you might have read on the internet, its not.
Additionally, businesses have even LESS right to argue over their tax money as they are gains and corporate profits, rather then an income tax. Capital gains and Corporate Profits are both expressly mentioned as being taxable income in the 16th Amendment.As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.
Originally posted by defcon5
The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.
reply to post by beezzer
Negative,
Capital Gains, and Corporate Income are taxable, its the law, its been that way for a very long time.
NOW...
Due to lobbying by those corporations less then 50% of them pay any taxes at all, and they use a disproportional amount of US services, including police, fire, damage to the ecosystems, and social services that are often used in lieu of providing benefits, etc...As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.
You need to read more. And quit complaining. Its sad. A study shows that the poor of today have much much better living conditions than the ultra wealthy of 100 years ago.
"As scholar James Q. Wilson has stated, “The poorest Americans today live a better life than all but the richest persons a hundred years ago.”[3] In 2005, the typical household defined as poor by the government had a car and air conditioning. For entertainment, the household had two color televisions, cable or satellite TV, a DVD player, and a VCR. If there were children, especially boys, in the home, the family had a game system, such as an Xbox or a PlayStation.[4] In the kitchen, the household had a refrigerator, an oven and stove, and a microwave. Other household conveniences included a clothes washer, clothes dryer, ceiling fans, a cordless phone, and a coffee maker."
Must not be too bad that the majority of lower income and poor have ac, cable and dvd player in each house. Because those are really neccesary. (sarcasm)
With that said, yes , it would be nice for all families not to live paycheck to paycheck. It would also be nice for everyone to stop smoking and wasting their money on non-needed items. But that is our problem, what you think you need, might be different than what the next person may think you need. So why is it fair that you impose your views of what you think is right on the rest of the country? What makes your view of what is needed, or your view of what is fair, more right? Again, stop complaining, you don’t like your current situation, move to Mexico. Here they have great opportunities there.
So if you apply yourself and don't make it the first time, you quit? And that was your riposte'? You try again. And again. And again. It's called work. It's called life. Who in the hell told you it would be easy? 'Cause it ain't, kitten. It's hard. It's tough. And sometimes you win, and sometimes you lose. But you don't quit. You don't whine. You don't blame others. You dust yourself off and start again. Or you can steal from poeple that have succeeded, it is easier.
You can tell what ones are Obama worshipers. And worship him everynight.