Did Humans and Dinosaurs Coexist? Yes!

Most creationists believe that God is limited and could not possibly orchestrate a world that slowly evolved. However, defining "slowly" to God who is without time should be interesting.

God is all around you and within you. Think of where you came from. You are more connected to the Earh than you cold possibly know. Stop quantifying the creation to fit in mere human numbers. Stop limOiting God. u

reply to post by reaganero


I don't know any creationists that believe God is limited. The mere suggestion of creation implies unlimited ability itself.

reply to post by Stovokor

The Bible is scientific,at least for the New Testament and is well documented. That said, it is not documented as today's standards.Is every written statement from our founding Father's totally exact? No, but most accept it as true.
Most of what has been written is substantiated by I witness accounts, up until photography to aid and correct.
Every detail is not accounted exactly, because of word of mouth and basic writings. The main stories and there correlating eye witness accounts will give you the main account, but not minute details.
One can not interpret any old written documents as we do today with our technology.

reply to post by mugger


Not only that...but there are other historical accounts that back up what is in the Bible. Take the works of Flavius Josephus for example.

There is evidence outside of the Bible to support what is inside the Bible.

It is limiting to think that God did not orchestrate the evolution process. Time is the issue with most humans, but a year is like what to Him?

I've got no problem with the idea that humans and dinosaurs coexisted. What I find to be absolutely absurd and laughable however are the people that believe that the earth is only 6000 years old and was literally created in 6 days because "that's what it says in the Bible."

Interesting information. This surely has sparked my interest for deeper research.

Have to say though everytime i read through replies in general on the internet, my faith in humanity drops.

Does anyone on ATS know what it means to KEEP AN OPEN MIND ?

Well let me tell you then, it means that there is absolutely no reason for you to jump to any conclusions or form any kind of belief without having the needed information. I know your mind WANTS to form a belief, and that is the art of taming the mind and keeping it OPEN to possibility. That is the art of being neither religious or atheist, but simply agnostic. Because it feels good to believe, to cast away that naggin doubt and just being able to put it behind you, but mastering the open mind is so much more rewarding in the end.

I really wish humanity would learn this art, because religion in it's sense is not just what god you believe, it's EVERYTHING you choose to believe without knowing. It's like a curse because it creates borders between our minds. Borders that do nothing but harm and are completely imaginary.

reply to post by nyk537

Let's begin by gaining a basic understanding of the knowledge ancient peoples had about dinosaurs. There are examples from history from peoples from all corners of the world in which intimate knowledge of dinosaurs can be found. Keep in mind the only reason that this is strange is because according to evolutionary assumptions, the existence of dinosaurs was supposed to be unknown until the nineteenth century. The fact that there are artifacts that date back much longer than that is immediately a major hurdle for evolutionary thinking.

No hurdle for evolutionary thinking at all.
Your knowledge of ancient peoples understanding of dinosaurs is hand picked to support your hypothesis.
This is tactics used by creationist to brain wash the flock into believing their false claims.

lets begin by gaining a basic understanding of the knowledge ancient peoples had about dinosaurs.

The Greeks and Romans were well aware that strange and fantastic creatures once inhabited their lands. They frequently encountered the fossilized bones of these primeval creatures, and they developed sophisticated concepts to explain the fossil evidence, concepts that were expressed in mythological stories.

Like modern Paleontologists, the ancient fossil hunters collected and measured impressive petrified remains and displayed them in temples and museums, they attempted to reconstruct the appearance of these prehistoric creatures and to explain their extinction. Long thought to be fantasy, the remarkably detailed and perceptive Greek and Roman accounts of giant bone finds were actually based on solid paleontological facts.

If you would like to educate yourself on the subject may I suggest a good read The First fossil Hunters

reply to post by nyk537


Iggles...Ugh..haha, you need a Terrible Towel in your hand! I am actually about 1hr from the Philthy side
Anyway, people should do a bit more research about the Bible without discarding its' scientific and Historical value.

reply to post by TupacShakur

The Bible says that if you pray, your prayers will be answered, and this is false.

Hold on now. Just because YOUR prayers do not get answered doesnt mean everyone else's prayers do not get answered. Personally, i prayed 2 weeks before arkansas and texas got rain last week, and i told God that our trees and plants were dying and we needed a break from the 105+ degree heat and that we could use 2 good days of rain. Well the rain came, and we got not 2 days of rain, but a whole weeks worth dumped on us and texas got a bit of it too. Keep in mind that this was 2 weeks BEFORE computer models said anything about getting rain in arkansas and texas.

Furthermore nowhere in the Bible does it say that everytime you pray it will be answered, so your statement is FALSE. In order for prayers to be answered it has to be in God's will and preferably not for selfish reasons. If God doesnt listen to you its most likely because you either do not pray because you are not a believer, or only pray for yourself and not other people.

reply to post by nyk537


Hey nyk, how abut you provide me with a shred of that proves carbon dating is wrong. All. Have read in your OP is just plain lame. You are pulling the most ludicrous statements to prove your point. This is ne of the most BS threads I have read in the past few months written by a mod.

reply to post by thedeadwalkk


I guess you haven't read the thread then huh?

Obviously not...because this has been addressed several times. And there is more to this thread and discussion than simply carbon dating.

reply to post by Fisherr


It's not crazy they actually did co-exist but not ALL of the dinosaurs did...I guess in your mind dinosaurs have no intelligence kinda like tigers and lions do today when they grow up around humans that become their best friends. But I highly doubt you could live with a t-rex without him smashing you or eating you.

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Originally posted by nyk537
Not only that...but there are other historical accounts that back up what is in the Bible. Take the works of Flavius Josephus for example.

I thought this was shown to be a forgery, if you're talking about what he says about Jesus.

I'd love some theories on these old Peruvian burial stones. I'm finding it hard to believe these primitive people dug up a triceratops and organised the bones with the precision archeologists do today, but i guess it's possible.

reply to post by Hydroman


Not at all. Obviously it has it critics because it is a historical work that lends credence to the Bible, but it has never been disproved.

The major criticisms all lie in the similarities in writing style between Josephus and other writers.

reply to post by Kryties


It's funny how you mention an invisible God but not invisible aliens....where are your aliens?